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And watch this old clip. http://blip.tv/ballislife/6-7-greg-wesley-is-one-of-the-most-explosive-athletes-of-2013-6206868 Wesley is going to be a stud. I don't expect him to ever average 15 a game, but I think he'll be a box-score stuffer and a guy who just helps you win in different ways. Can play the 3 or the 4. Hopefully he's worked a little on dribbling with his left hand, but man he has a quick trigger and has some 3-point ability even if it isn't his forte. Adding him and Combs to the forwards we already have should be fun to watch. Hope Wesley's getting the classroom stuff figured out and will be ready to play.

Watching it from afar, had two kids from high school on the team during the dodge era in DT Joe Hawthorne and Jeremi Mathis, that's what I saw. Joe was the big brother of one of my good friends/teammate/classmate so I kept up with the program with him. Thought Riley would be a 4-year starter and at least get to two bowl games, not to mention when Dunbar emerged. When I actually watched the games it was just surprising to see them just not look like a D1 team despite getting some big names in recruiting. But yes, it was frustrating but I wasn't losing any sleep over it. Had I actually been invested as a fan in those teams it would've been a different story. Maybe this is part of my rite of passage into UNT fandom. Got to skip the Dodge era, so I don't deserve a pass on this.

Yup. What happened today was the fault of both. On a game-by-game basis, over the course of the season it's the fault of both. Our players have not been very coachable a lot of times, committing the same mistakes repeatedly. Especially on defense. Things are not getting better and personally, I don't trust Benford to be the guy to turn things around or get the players to turn things around. I've actually given him a chance, and still will. I just don't think he's going to do it based on what I've seen. Would not be opposed to him proving me wrong. I'll give much more blame to the players than 90 will, but I definitely agree with him as well that he's the constant throughout this whole downfall. It's been two years of underachieving, playing inconsistently, and having nagging problems that don't get corrected. Still time to turn things around this season, but another thing we've seen is "oh, we're so close to turning the corner," then we don't and we go back to square one. If we waste the senior class we will have next year then that's what it'll be for the program. Back to square one.

3rd 30 point loss of the year. That's a lot, all very frustrating.

But games like the one played in the cotton bowl on 1/1/14 and at Apogee on Halloween are.

If we don't beat Rice, we're coming home 2-7 in conference.

He and Carrington Ward (our other JUCO signee) are both shooting guards. Never seen either play, just going off the evaluations and stats. Ward is listed at 6'2" and Harris is listed at 6'3", so they'll likely be touted as "combo guards." Ward averages almost 4 assists a game for San Jac but Harris only averaged 1.8 last year and is sitting out this year so he'll be a sophomore next year. Ward could probably be a backup for Jones next year, but he's a shooting guard.

That article by Vito about Vaughns reminded me how it's going to be rough next year without him and Alzee. No one behind CJ to run the point except maybe TJ, but he will be a senior too. Really need a point guard with that last scholly IMO. Also scary to think what this team will be like after next year without CJ and Jordan in particular. They have 23 of our 31 points right now.

Yup. Sounds like a lot of turnovers and disarray on both sides of the court. just can't see it with my eyes to confirm. Down 47-31 at the half.

Thanks! Listening to the game on my phone and tracking the ESPN game tracker. Amazingly the ESPN score tracker is actually ahead of the broadcast, at least on my phone.

Our big men are racking up fouls. Wish I could hear the game though. I've got 15-12 Tulsa with 11:49 left in the first.

Looks like Jordan is putting us on his back early on.

It affects our divisional play. If UAB ends up in the west division this year (they will be in the west for sure in 2015) then we will only play 5 of our 6 divisional opponents this year and will play 3 opponents from the east, rather than 2. That's the way it works with unbalanced divisions. I personally don't want to miss a game with any of the opponents in our division, for various reasons. Some are teams we should beat, some are teams that are potentially budding rivalries.

We're currently 13th in a 16 team conference. We're not in a position to be assuming wins. Not yet at least.

No, you've got it down. You're missing kicker Trevor Moore, so we actually have 16 high school commits not currently enrolled. That's 24 which means we should have 1 left. Unless there is something I'm missing. This is what I've been saying for a few weeks which is why I don't know what the hold up was with Chumley's commitment or why Vito was saying we might only have 2 more spots before Tillman Johnson and Chumley committed. Just a few days to go, then we'll have a better understanding of everything

Yes. Two years playing at Oregon, used his redshirt last year, and will be a redshirt junior this season. Exact same path as Pegram and Trice.

Absolutely. Getting a 4-star recruit means we got a coveted player who big schools wanted as well. As for 4-star transfers, the thing I like about Wallace is that he did not redshirt at Oregon. Redshirting is not a bad thing and a countless amount of successful players redshirt as true freshmen, but if a kid is able to go to a school like Oregon and not redshirt as a freshman then it shows that they were good enough to not be buried on the depth chart by all that talent. Some players redshirt because the team has good depth at that player's position, mostly all linemen and qbs redshirt, and some players get redshirted because they are just buried on the depth chart. Stradford redshirted at OU because he was buried. Trice and Pegram did not redshirt at OU and Purdue respectively. Not always how things work, exceptions to everything, but I really like the fact that Wallace did not redshirt at Oregon as a true freshman.

Yeah, but the board still went pretty crazy when we got him. I agree though, not nearly like if it was a 4-star high school kid. Willy Ivery was initially rated an 87 by 247, but they dropped him down to a 79 for no reason. Almost a 4-star, dropped down to 2-star despite having an outstanding senior season. Gotta love the politics of recruiting. Had he committed to a Big 12 or an SEC school there is a very good chance he would've been either a 4-star or stayed a very high 3-star. Kids a stud regardless. I think he'll be one of our return men this year and do a great job.

Looks like UTSA is getting bullied on the recruiting trail by a school in their own city. Incarnate Word beat them out for Birdville running back and Scout/247 3-star Xavier Turner. http://espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/player/_/id/172022/xavier-turner

Josh: very cool to watch guys from your town play college sports. I'm from a big city that produces a lot of D1 athletes, including high school teammates of mine, but it still never gets old watching a guy make a play and they say where he is from. Thanks for the info on Wilson saying he really wants to come here. Hopefully he does, because I really like his film and running style.

Well we have 9 current commits who are rated 3-stars by at least one of the four major recruiting websites. Our 3-star commits and what services have them rated as a 3-star: Branding Garner (ESPN), Connor Means (ESPN), Andrew Jones (ESPN), Trevor Moore (ESPN), Jalen Adams (ESPN), Willy Ivery (Scout and Rivals), Tee Goree (Scout, Rivals, and 247), and Caleb Chumley (Rivals, 247, and ESPN). As for almost 3-star ratings: O'Keeron Rutherford has a grade of a 78 on 247 (80 is a 3-star, 70-79 is a 2-star), Shaq Jackson is a 5.4 on Rivals (need a 5.5 for 3-stars) and Josh Greer was just rated a 5.4 on rivals as well. Also, a few of our 3-stars are very close to being three stars on at least one more website. Fonzale is a 5.4 on rivals, Garner is a 5.4 on rivals, Jalen Adams in a 5.4 on rivals, Andrew Jones is a 78 on 247, Brandon Garner is a 78 on 247, Connor means is a 78 on 247, and Willy Ivery is a 79 on 247. Another reason we shouldn't always put too much stock into stars (I use offer lists and film ahead of stars) is a guy like Chris Miles, flower mound o-lineman. Look at this offer list. This is easily a 3-star offer list yet he is a 2-star. Very excited to have him and I couldn't care less that he is not a 3-star. Very valuable commit and a smart kid who will do us well on the field and in the classroom. http://247sports.com/Recruitment/Christopher-Miles-30226/RecruitInterests http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Christopher-Miles-150444 SN: Yes, X is a 3-star on scout but not anywhere else. He'd be another 3-star for us, albeit a very underrated one at that.

Jarvis and Nelson are gone. Orr is recovering, but I'm not sure about the others.

Scout only gave him 2 stars because they have him classified as a qb. 247 has him rated as a tight end with a 3-star grade of 85, good for the 38th best tight end in the country ahead of tight ends committed to schools like Miami (Fl), Ole Miss, Georgia Tech, OU, Virginia, and South Carolina. Elite! ESPN and Rivals have Chumley classified as an athlete, and he is a 3-star on those sites as well. Scout will almost assuredly leave Chumley listed as a qb because we have openly admitted to giving him a chance to play qb here, whether he ends up here or not. So he will likely remain on 2-star on scout. No matter what his rating is on scout (or any other recruiting website) Chumley is the type of athlete that you just don't get a chance to have very often. He'll be fun to watch as long as he's here.

They went on to exchange a little contact info and talk about how they will have a good class next year at that school and in that area and Chico said they would keep up with that school in the fall. Maybe we begin recruiting Florida a little. We're starting to recruit Texas well enough to where we can target a few out of state guys and not be hurting if we don't get them.

Awesome! One of our MULTIPLE class headliners!