MeanGreenZen

Come on guys, how was our coaching staff supposed to know that Derek Thompson's eligibility was up after last season and they needed to recruit/develop a reliable quarterback to take his place? Also, I know Connor Means is winning the Underwear Olympics (he looks the part) but the guy completed less than 50% of his passes in high school last year. If anyone has ever needed a redshirt it's that dude.

If you ask me it is BS that we have a guy who is an NFL prospect at guard and make him play a position he doesn't have the footwork to handle. Not very fair to Lemon, but he is good soldier and does it even though it hurts his legacy and draft status.

Isn't that his point? With UT/OU/A&M always.getting the blue chippers in our backyard and EVERY other program in the country fighting for DFW's second-tier recruits, it makes it that much harder when programs like Baylor and TCU reach elite status. And I can remember MANY guys we have been recruiting in recent years who finally signed with TCU or Baylor. And if I wasn't so lazy, I would list some...

The schools don't have all the power. Kids can switch commitments any time. But a school should hold itself to a level of responsibility and accountability higher than that of an 18-year old kid. Your word should be your word. And it sounds like the kid doesn't understand and is butt hurt trying to get our coaches banned from his campus. This situation gives ammunition to the schools we recruit against, too. And Angelo State and Lamar don't need more help. Lol.

Unless we put an injury stipulation in our verbal scholarship offer, it is wrong to withdraw the offer because of injury. That is bad business. If we are so short on scholarships maybe we find a way out of having multiple scholarships devoted to long snappers. How many punters and kickers are on scholarship now?

Obviously we are entering a new era of UNT football: the era of the dominant quarterback. Because obviously. And since Dajon Williams will be the first in a USC-like run of amazing Mean Green QBs, he will need a nickname. Names like Broadway Joe, Johnny Football and Giovanni Vizza are already taken so my vote for his nickname is Great Dajon, mostly because he IS great, as evidenced by the many scoring drives he has led the offense on (in my mind) and also because it rhymes with Grey Poupon, which remains the best of the high-end mustards. Who is with me?

Or does Mac use this game as an opportunity to let Greer air it out, have some success and gain confidence that can carry over into the rest of the season? I'm not saying, I'm just saying...

105k people are at the Aggie game right now. They aren't there because they received an email or got a bi-weekly newsletter or saw a billboard or got a buy one get one free ticket. They aren't there because they got an excited automated voice message from the head coach imploring them to come. People don't go to college football games for those reasons. People go to college football games because that's what they did when they were students and they made a connection to their school and have a connection to the game day experience that transcended their graduation. They go because they want to see the friends they went to college with, who had the same experience, too. You guys keep griping because you aren't being harassed enough by telemarketers and want a stronger T-shirt gun at games. I'm just going to keep showing up because that's what I did when I went to school and it was fun. As more and more people have a similar experience the crowd will grow.

I saw that dude play in high school several games. Total gunslinger Johnny Football type. Very small. Way too exciting to play for Mac

#realfootballschoolproblems

You guys blaming marketing are full of it. I get phone calls, emails and see sponsored posts on social media all the time from the MG athletic department. Those guys do everything short of offering to have Rick V drive to my house himself in a James Wood automobile with two scoops of Beth Marie's ice cream to pick me up and take me to the game. You want to lower ticket prices? YOU CAN BUY SEASON TICKETS FOR $65!!! Even our music major alums can afford that. The focus on students has yielded great results. The student section was still full on Thursday until early in the fourth quarter when the game was way out of hand and the exodus to Fry Street began. You want energy, intensity and creativity from the pimple-faced minimum wage earning sophomore answering the phone for the ticket office? People with that kind of talent don't sit around memorizing ticket prices to road games and waiting for you to call and ask them about it. Did you try maybe calling Indiana directly and asking them about their tickets? It is not a meteoric rise to the top of the college football world. We started at the bottom not too long ago. Schedule interesting games at convenient times and alums will show up. Give them a good experience and they will come back. Keep doing that over and over and one day we will hit the mythical 30k. Oh and I forgot to mention, start Dajon Williams at quarterback. Once we do that terrorism will be permanently defeated, Ray Rice will stop beating his wife and cats and dogs will finally reconcile.

Selling out a 7,000 seat basketball arena on a slow weeknight against a marquee opponent is one thing. Filling up a 32k seat football stadium on a fall Saturday is totally different. SMU has the $ but they don't have the bodies to be a program any bigger than they are. They don't have many students and many of their alums move away from DFW. That program has a low ceiling and June Jones knew it. UNT has eclipsed SMU as a football program and there will be no looking back. The program all of us should fear making the leap into a Big 12-worthy program ahead of us is not SMU, it is UTSA.

Nothing ever ends well or else it would not end. June Jones took a team that hadn't been to a bowl in 25 years to 4 bowls in 6 full seasons. Under your logic Tom Landry was a failure and so was Ron Washington because they, like Jones, left at a low point after achieving great things. June Jones tenure at SMU was doomed as soon as he took the Arizona State job that fell through. He didn't REALLY want to be the head coach at SMU anymore and stopped doing the extra little things that had made him successful (which in my opinion is also what doomed Darrell Dickey at UNT). Jones' offensive system worked in the NFL and could still work in college. And Todd Dodge was horrible at developing recruits into good college football players. Dodge is not a coach I would compare to June Jones.

And I am all for a moneyball get the undervalued asset approach to recruiting, but it's not like our RBs were big time HS stars who big schools don't want anymore. Pegram is a transfer from the Big 10, Jimmerson didn't even start for his high school and 3rd string Wilson was a 2A player. June Jones, on the other hand, just signed the No. 1 ranked fullback recruit in the country last year. More evidence against your theory that he could not find athletes to play in his offense.

Are you really making the point that it is tough to recruit WRs in college? Please. WRs grow on trees. They are everywhere. It is tough to recruit DTs in college not WRs. The point of the spread is you don't need elite athletes to run it. And SMU HAS found elite WRs for the spread. Emmanuel Sanders, Cole Beasley and Aldrick Robinson are June Jones WRs playing meaningful snaps in the NFL RIGHT NOW! Whatever caused SMU to suck so bad this year is not an inability to find athletes to run the spread.

Zach Whitfield has been a pretty productive corner for us at that size and Whitfield is not even that fast.

Even if our quarterback is below average this season, it doesn't make Derek Thompson's career any better than it was, which was average. Average is not fun (although I will happily take it, if it comes attached to a Bowl victory.) But I am excited about the possibility of our new quarterback: Anyone But Derek Thompson, because the possibility for above average quarterback play exists now.

Isn't it some kind of violation for Coach Patrick to make a comment like that?

This is a BS argument. No one forced DT to accept the scholarship. He could go start his own football team and charge people whatever he wanted to see him play, but he chose instead to come to UNT and play under the NCAA rules. The only reason I ever gave a damn about Derek Thompson was because he was the QB at MY school. He benefitted greatly from choosing to play at UNT and I am offended he is suing now. Ultimately, people root for the schools, not the players. And the players should not be compensated much beyond what they currently get because they are all replaceable. And after they are all replaced with new recruiting classes I will continue to root and spend money supporting THE SCHOOL. How much is Derek Thompson's labor as a football player really worth without North Texas? The free market says Nothing, that's why he is teaching high school and not playing professional football.

Can I sue Derek Thompson for four years of mediocre quarterback play?

...and the P5 is controlled by reptilian alien central bankers who want to destroy lower-level FBS football so they can install a one world government and force all citizens to watch a Hunger Games-themed competition with tributes from the AAC, C-USA, MAC, MWC and Sun Belt that will be broadcast on the Longhorn Network.

First of all, if there are more scholarships available, the recruiting services will just rank more players: because heaven forbid we sign a kid who isn't ranked by a website employing minimum wage talent evaluators/writers who got cut from their 7th grade B team. Also, do you know how many kids play high school football in this country? Giving P5 scholarships to 1000 more kids across the country won't make a significant dent in the talent level we can acquire. Tons of kids have the talent to play high level college football and never get the opportunity. Look at an NFL roster, sure there are guys from Alabama or Texas but a similar amount are from less prestigious programs. For example, right now the Dallas Cowboys have THREE guys on their roster from Northern Illinois. If the P5 schools each had 15 more scholarships, do you know where those three Dallas Cowboys would have played college football: still Northern Illiniois! Remember why the scholarship limit was put in place? Title 9. If they add scholarships for men, they have to do it for women, too. Women's sports lose $. You think these schools want to add more of these new, more expensive "full cost of attendance" scholarships for non-revenue sports? Ultimately, college football is a business and increasing from 85 to 100 scholarships DOES NOT make these schools more money so they aren't going to do it.

Uh... This is how it already is and I like our chances in Game 1 this year.

Psst... There are still only 11 players on each side of the ball when it is snapped. Also, the scholarship limit was 105 during the Hayden Fry-era and he still had some fantastic teams. If they increased the scholarship limit the market would change, I could see more highly-talented sophomores and juniors from P5 schools want to transfer to places like UNT for more playing time. The sky is not falling, Apogee is not crumbling, Rick Villareal is not shaving his mustache. We will be ok no matter what the P5 does.

Maybe this is what happened with Sed and Loving at Wal-Mart. They tried to pay for the TV's but Wal-Mart's system was down.