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I’d say the teams we’ve beaten are the laughingstocks.

Here’s my problem: the blowouts. Let’s just say SMU beat us by 7, UNLV beat us by 7, and Memphis beat us by 10. My perspective would be much different. We get wiped out by average teams every year and it’s demoralizing. The amount of games we’ve lost by 3 touchdowns or move the past 5 seasons is just mind-blowing for a team with about a .500 record who has played very few ranked teams.

I thought Kennesaw was a baseball school.

Most of those are awful. Let me save you the time😀

We’re not 20 players away. A good QB would improve us tremendously. The QB makes such a difference. I already knew it, but it really hit home watching atm and Bama. If Bama has to play too many games without Young, they may be in trouble. That being said, we need to fill a few holes defensively.

I’m thinking along these lines as well, but just to be different give me 34-21.

Realistically, where are the moral victories? We get our ass end handed to us anytime we play someone good (and sometimes when we play someone not so good). I honestly don’t know if SL has had a single game I’d call a moral victory. 2019 @ Cal? 2017 @ Iowa?

I think our fight song is great. The alma mater is just ok.

If we win this week all past sins forgiven, right?

fluke [flo͞ok] NOUN an unlikely chance occurrence, especially a surprising piece of luck The win over UTSA is the textbook definition of a fluke, especially considering the way we dismantled them. This discussion got me thinking: What's the difference between a fluke win and an upset? I'm thinking maybe an upset would have been if we had beaten them by 3 in "nice" weather. The way we beat them and the weather being to our advantage made it a fluke.

A little more fun with numbers: 2019: Iowa St. lost 6 games by a total of 43 points (one of those a 22 point loss). We lost by 35 to LaTech. 2020: Iowa St. lost 3 games by a total of 26 points. We by 32 to UTSA, 30 to SMU, and 28 to both Charlotte and App. St. 2021: Iowa St. lost 6 games by a total of 36 points. We lost by 34 to UAB. 2022: Iowa St lost 3 games by a total of 11 points. You all know the numbers that would go here. In the past 4 years, Iowa St. has lost 18 games by an average of 6 points per game. In the past 4 years, UNT has lost 24 games by an average of 19 points per game. Out of our 24 losses in the past 4 seasons, only 4 of them have been 6 points or less.

2019: worst loss was by 22 to ND in bowl game. Next largest deficit was 7 points. 2020: worst loss was 17, next largest deficit was 6 points. 2021: worst loss was 10. 2022: worst loss is 7. I’ll trade with them.

Completely agree. We need to be ball control. Passing just enough to keep the defense honest. That’s hard too since I feel we have very talented WR/TE group, but it’s just the way it has to be for us to be successful. And I’ll add this: When the coaching staff has recruited every player on the roster, we shouldn’t have to be changing the system to fit the personal. It’s ridiculous.

So it's not a unique situation and the precedent has been set? If I understand correctly, if you have the desire to be a part of one of these professions, you have to pay your dues until you get your big break? Though I think an important difference if that the "workers" that we're talking about are given a free education to fall back on in case the "dream" job doesn't work out (and provided free tutoring to give them every opportunity to complete their degree). They are provided meals and housing. They are provided with the best coaching/training to help them achieve their dream. They are provided a stage on which to demonstrate their talents to prospective employers of their dream job. I can't speak to video game development, but actors and musicians certainly aren't given near the support system to succeed as athletes.

Can anyone name another industry where even though the “workers” are exploited and taken advantage of, thousands each year are begging for the chance to be one of those “workers.” Some who are less talented even offer to be allowed to volunteer (walk-on) to be a part of this unfair system.

I’ll admit I was never much of a Bean fan, but I find myself rooting for him today.

You jinxed him. He just imploded two plays in a row.😆

Announcer on the TX/OU game just said about OU, and I’m paraphrasing, “The uptempo offense wore their own defense out by the end of the game. Let’s see if they go a little slower this week.” Sounds like UNT.

And most people are ok with the Walton family making billions while the front line workers make minimum wage. And these companies aren’t investing in their workers and striving to give them better opportunities in life like universities are doing with their athletes. The people who provide the opportunity make the most money. While we don’t agree on the subject, I appreciate and enjoy the civil discussion.

I was very unimpressed with UNLV. I thought we were, dare I say, unusually bad that day, especially on defense.

Why would the four teams in the playoff have sub .500 records? If the talent level was down a cross the board, you’d still have the winners and the losers. So Alabama (for example) would still be 11-0, they’d just be a less talented team playing other less talented teams. Start up leagues can’t get traction because they don’t have the tradition, not just because of talent. Most people will tune in to watch a winning Alabama team simply because it’s Alabama. But yes, agree to disagree. Go Mean Green.

The first part here is the problem. I always thought football was a team sport, but not anymore. Me, me, me. The second part I know is true, but I’m sure we would disagree as to how much of a difference it would make. I think alumni are going to follow their school regardless, especially if they are winning. This is what makes the NCAA unique. The average alumni doesn’t know anything about football, they’re just going to the game to tailgate and have fun. They’re happy if their team wins, but they wouldn’t notice a drop off in talent.

I used Starbucks because someone mentioned them in a previous post. I realize it’s not apples to apples, but the truth is that in both scenarios (and in many businesses) the worker who is performing the work that is making all the money, makes the least amount of money. You kind of made my point though. These players have skills that can make them millionaires, but they need a place to showcase those talents. The NCAA (and specifically it’s schools/alumni) provides that opportunity. I’m sure if there was a profit to be made in a professional league as an alternative to the NCAA, someone would have started that league. As it stands, the players who want to go pro need the NCAA more the NCAA needs the players.

Starbucks grossed $21.6 million in 2021 and they didn’t provide a stage for their 18-21 year old employees to showcase their talents for a chance to make millions of dollars nor do they provide them coaches to help them improve their chances of making millions after college. Sorry, but that’s the way it is in business. The ones who do the dirty work and are often the face of the organization are often the ones who are working for peanuts. It was mentioned that colleges recruit players which is true, but players also try to sell themselves to a university. Parents pay more than the cost of a scholarship to give their kid a chance to get a scholarship. Why would they do that if the system is so unfair?