First off, show me any "misinformation" that I've disseminated. Talons in the past 3-4 years has been outdone and outshone by average Joe students consistently. I have better things to do with my time than to lie about an organization that is a shadow of its former self. Second, Talons is a full-time job? Congratulations son, that means that you've just about BEGUN to feel what being a Talon should be like. Saying that Talons is a time consuming, exhaustive undertaking is not exactly trumpeting breaking news. It's nothing to brag or whine about. It's called dedication...something that Rick's, and my, generations knew about in spades. So you still do campus cleanup and go to a lot of events. How very cutting edge of you. Here's an idea for the current Talons...and I'll put it in bold for the reading impaired...find something that is hindering campus wide pride and progress and do something NEW about it. Seriously, when was the last time anyone looked at Talons and said "what a fresh and new idea, I'm glad they're on the job"? The day that Talons again does the dirty work for the betterment of the university and not to thump their chests again will be the day I fall silent in my criticism. And, most importantly, as to my "being the guy that doesn't vote and complains" how exactly do you propose I go about rectifying the situation. Talons alum (in a move that is unfathomable) can't even vote in Talons meetings. This is a courtesy and sign of respect that NO TALON that I came up with or spoke with from years past would have dared take away. It seems that the extent of interaction between the old and new guard lately has consisted of "thanks for fixing the model-A and giving us a bell...now go away." Kids sure do love their toys. I would GLADLY come to meetings to offer insight, ideas, or just a little historical perspective. I'M OFF OF WORK EVERY SINGLE WEDNESDAY. I just won't hold my breath for the invitation...reaching out to those who have gone before you does in fact require that you be willing to accept criticism and observations. And does it not strike you or Bryan that people who aren't in and never were in Talons can see the glaring shortcomings? What vested interest or agenda could they possibly serve? I don't recall being taken to task when I was in school...were the detractors just that quiet or were they maybe too busy being made involved by a Talons organization that was consistently visible and active? Hmmm