DentonStang

This is a running theme on here. Make fun of SMU losing to a team that went 6-6 in the ACC. Pretend UNT didn't lose to teams with worse records in both AAC and CUSA. Make fun of SMU for bad attendance. Pretend UNT doesn't have worse attendance with vastly more students & alumni (and a better home schedule this year too). All the ways you make fun of us actually makes more fun of yourself. Bizarre.

We lost, clearly, but it wasn't a whoopin', we were leading into the 4th quarter, and it was competitive by both sides throughout. Not like, say, UNT vs bowl eligibility requirements, which was a straight whoopin'.

We ask those same questions every year. I went to the game vs Tulane. Small, cheap stadium with basic minimal concessions........run very efficiently and effectively. None of the issues you see in Ford. It's maddening.

We won't receive media contract revenue. We will receive other miscellaneous conference revenue and that adds up to more than the total revenue in the AAC including media

Excuses for what? A pass-oriented team with a freshman backup QB in his 2nd start in pouring rain lost to a run focused P3 team with greater depth. We were competitive, lead much of the game, and lost respectfully. Sucks to lose, especially since we could have won in different circumstances, but that's how it goes. Going to take a few years to build P3 depth. And again, we'll make more conference revenue next year than we did this year. We aren't "paying" for anything

Concessions have been an ongoing humiliation. One more thing the boosters need to take direct control of. But in concessions defense, who would have thought Texas St. grads could afford multiple purchases?

And higher than anything at Da-TCU by an even larger margin, despite enough undergrads to fill the stadium with them alone. I'm not sure this is where you should be talking trash.

Bowls generally try to emphasize their status by leaving references to the prestigious venues that host them, such as teams from P3 conferences

If the only other option was to get left at the airport, then yes, overpaying is the better choice. AAC is getting left at the airport. B12 and ACC might be on the plane, might not. It's worth a shot

........this is still a substantial upgrade over AAC in every possible metric. How would that be a bad thing? "SMU quit their job with us pushing carts at Target to go be a CEO, but then they found out the job is just being a VP. Dur idiots! They should have just kept pushing carts with us!"

FSU comes to Dallas next year. It's now our Superbowl.

We're making more money even without media rights in the ACC than we (and you) were making in the American. It's still a win.

FSU's claim is ridiculous. They are literally gaining additional revenue from us (and Cali) joining and looking at the top 25 rankings we improve the conference. It's a silly argument like much of their filing. Conference certainly could fall apart but if it does as a result of this filing it's going to be abject chaos. It would invalidate the Big12 GOR also which uses a similar structure.

6-6 teams tend to do poorly when they have to play their TE at QB much of the game. What's your point?

If it collapses to the level what remains of the ACC is AAC level, then it doesn't matter. Everyone outside of B10/SEC at that point is truly just a new FCS and we are all scaling back spend considerably. It's worth the gamble when the downside is just back where we started. That said FSU's argument is phenomenally weak. They're essentially saying (as disclosed so far): 1. The contract they signed repeatedly is not fair 2. They can't compete for championships in the ACC (history does not support this plus the playoff further weakens their argument) 3. Adding 3 teams made finances worse (despite FSU set to get more money because of it) and hurts strength of schedule (despite SMU Cal and Stanford being at least in the middle of the ACC by any poll or calculation) There has to be something more to it or it's all performative.

Even if FSU was successful, are you suggesting it's not a better conference than AAC?

I knew he was successful, but not hundreds of millions successful. Wow. Interesting model. It's almost like a full outsourcing - pay the coach to win, and he handles funding the personnel as part of the total contract

Already has a bushel of P3 transfers. What's going on there? Do they have money somehow? https://247sports.com/college/charlotte/Season/2024-football/TransferPortal/?institutionkey=24318

Cal plays at SMU next year. You can come see him in person

It's crazy anyone thinks programs are going to willingly let this get corrupted by Title IX. What an unbelievable and unfair distribution of money that would be.

You're giving them too much credit. They put practically zero thought into who the G5 team would be beyond "undefeated". They could not care less about Liberty vs SMU vs Troy vs anyone else. They spent all their energy trying to figure out how they would plausibly get out of the mess of no SEC team in the top 4. The 12 team playoff will resolve this, or at least the FSU screw job. There's still going to be the issue of what G5 conf champ gets in. I don't think most of us feel all that disappointed. We knew after we screwed the pooch against a bad TCU team that this might happen. Frankly I don't feel it's all that beneficial to the program to get nuked, probably, by Oregon with our backup QB right when we move up.

ESPN current plan: 1. Reward not playing tougher opponents by G5s, and punish P3's doing it 3. Put undefeated, played nobody 13-0 up against monster opponents, blow them out 3. Playoff will take the highest rated G5 conf champion..... But because of blowouts stipulate the must be in top 25 4. Don't put any G5's in top 25 because they don't play difficult opponents 5. Push G5 out of playoff entirely because they never qualify

Liberty has the lowest SOS in FBS. But we lost to a weak TCU. That's on SMU. Toss up, no idea who's going to get it. We would smash Liberty even with our backup QB though

If you were in CUSA you'd be one of those two sitting undefeated

According to this off to Mississippi St. with Lebby. Accurate? https://x.com/PeteThamel/status/1730001166581284974?s=20