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Concerning Dan Meager, I only defer to this thread by Harry (please do read the links) and the aforementioned post by Emmitt. I think all of the Mean Green Nation would wish the best for Dan Meager, his teammates and for all of them to have an injury-free Fall camp with whats left of that. Rumor says season and individual tickets are still available at.........1-800-UNT-2366......... These guys have done much for Denton, Texas, America, the entire NT community as well as the future of NT athletics and deserve SRO for each home game this Fall. I believe that is the part we have control of and are responsible for stepping up to the next level. PS: Read yesterday that Middle Tennessee's (probable) 2'nd string QB is most likely lost for the season with an injury probably caused by the Blue Raiders sub-par artificial turf; you know, the kind of turf similar to that that we just replaced at Fouts? GMG!

Agree, Deep Green, but I don't think we will see any USM-type defenses in the SBC this or most any year. Not wanting to get too boastful about our NT offense (even with or without a seasoned QB for the time being), but I think NT will be able to cram Sir Patrick Cobbs and Super Jamario Thomas down many of our non BCS opponent's throats (so to speak); especially those defenses in the Sun Belt Conference. Has anyone seen NT throw any half-back passes in recent years? There are ways to keep SBC defenses off balance. NT may have to come up with some of what Hayden Fry called his "exotic" plays to keep those SBC "D's" guessing. Now concerning LSU, thats a whole different ball game. I think we will have find 1 or 2 QB's who will be able to pass the ball downfield enough as to allow the always dangerous Johnny Quinn to stretch out some of those SBC defenses, too. I just don't see 'Belt defenses being able to do what the Golden Eagles did in the Big Easy. There is just not that kind of talent with our SBC opponents at this time.

I keep having these haunting nightmares of a "football hating" Wally Cox-lookin' Mr. Peepers-type taking over from Norval Pohl. Jeez! I have awakened with a cold sweat in the middle of the night with this nightmare. (uh, just kiddin, folks). Here's hoping, though, that NT doesn't take 5 giant steps backwards with our next NT Presidential hire. We cannot afford that now, especially since we are just making up for lost time with the modernization of our athletic facilities which are being built not so much as luxuries but as necessary miniumums--even our new football stadium will fit in that criteria. I do have to think NT Board of Regent chairman Bobby Ray, a self-avowed Mean Green football enthusiast, is not going to let this particular hire get out of hand, though. The jury is still out on his board's hiring of Lee Jackson, who I personally think was hand-picked by Dr. Al Hurley. GMG! PS: I whole-heartedly agree with FFR and his assessment of our coaching staff and their situation. We must raise all their salaries and I hope others than collegiate smack board posters know this.

Any NT football fan would be concerned about Dan Meager or any of his teammates durability BUT gimmee' a break............. we have those now questioning his D-E-S-I-R-E? Is it possible that we need to let him play one or 2 series (or one entire game good Lord willin') of D1-A football before that is even a passing thought? What could anyone know about this young man's desire to play? I don't think any of us have that luxury since we are not his judges. I believe it will be the NT football coaches who make that determination with all our Mean Green football players. The 2 deep line-up gives most of us a clue of a player's talents and ultimate desire to succeed on the gridiron. ALL I KNOW IS THIS: The Sun Belt Conference's best receiver in its short football history ie, the Mighty J. Quinn said Meager was the future of NT at QB and that was good enough for me; it was all I needed to hear. I am surprised that that from Quinn is not good enough for others. I wonder how JQ and his teammates are feeling about some of this subject coming from GMG.com? You all know many of these guys (and their parents) do read this board, right? You know who also reads this kind of message board and have told some as such? How about future possible Mean Green recruits who are Texas HS seniors this Fall? Still I think some of the Mean Green football players (including Meager himself) are probably laughing at some of this seemedly (to some) harmless banter, but I also think they are taking mental notes and jogging some of this in their memory banks, too. Who knows, maybe Darrell Dickey has been right all the time about some of our fans and alums.

Oh boy, just what we need, another "piling on Meager" thread has begun. Hey, if anyone has missed it on GMG.com, Meager (who SBC all star receiver Johnny Quinn "only" says is the future of NT at QB) has missed some playing time at QB last Spring, hit his head on the ground the other day, has a hammy (who doesn't in this year's NT's Fall camp) and if he has one more boo-boo, some on this board will start yet another whole thread on this subject. LEAVE THE KID ALONE, FOLKS! HE IS NOT SUPERMAN BUT IS MERELY A MORTAL, IE, A HUMAN BEING (just like you and me). By now, we all know the injury situation with the young man. <>*<> NT Athletics, DD and staff are going to quit communicating to the DRC and boards like this one if all this keeps gettting non-stop front page attention. I'm sure most of you have read that other D1-A programs are zipping their lips when it comes to their own programs unofficial message boards. Also, any of you think our opponents just might be reading our GMG.com "hour on the hour" injury report (especially on one particular player)? You think some of this might even get fowarded to some of our opponent's coaches? Some won't be happy unless its the negative things that are highlighted and are the main focus at NT. How unfortunate that is (and what a bad example for new alums/potential fans who read all this on this forum). Some of you think things said on this board may be the very stumbling blocks as to why we don't sell extra MG Club memberships or football season tickets? Why would anyone want to invest their time and money into something that they perceive may not be worthy and they make such decsions on bad vibes, karma or perceptions from a collegiate message board--just like this one? Sorry, its just way too early to be ranting.

Of course, for NT to get where I think we all want NT to get we need the Big Donor, the little donors and those who are just buying tickets. The Big Boys have all that working for them and NT should not set its goals any less, IMHO. I think before this January, NT will have its Big Donor that will allow us to turn dirt this next Spring for our new football stadium--just a gut feeling; but you know, when Norval Pohl, Bobby Ray and Rick V are taking these prospective Big Donors on a walking tour of the present Mean Green Village, unlike the past, these guys will get to see actual completed facilties and not just drawings of such on some glorified blueprints. GMG!

Now that would be a sight to behold! Instead of an implosion, you'd have a balloon on the loose making farting noises all over UT's Forty Acres! Texas A & M's Coach Fran gave his employer $1 million toward their new $9 million indoor practice facility. (Of course, he has a $2 million annual salary). From the "Believe it or Not" department, TAMU officials once proposed an $80 million super indoor facility but it died for lack of a 2'nd. What could NT do with $80 million?

And don't the U of Memphis Tigers also average 40,000 per home game? So as super Mean Green fan and fellow Lower Section E'er meanjoe ends each of his posts: Buy Season Tickets. Join the Mean Green Club. (and he's right)

And what is it that Coach Bustle of the UL Rajun Cajuns make$ ?

NT needs to do as other schools have done and give a very nice bonus for substantial & noticeable increases in attendance. Attendance is still our albatross at the moment although I feel it will not always be, but I think we can still move up the time-table for us all to see dramatic increases whether its at Fouts or when we are in the new football stadium. At NT, we have the winning part down pat, the bowl drought is over, tailgating at NT receives an A+, but eventually we need to make our attendance situation public enemy #1 and just put a complete focus on solving it. We are hardly a back-water school in a sparsely populated area so we don't have that to overcome.

Are the inmates running the asylum with all this branding business? Funny how they are all gone in 10 years and we get stuck with all this blankety blank branding legacy. Screw it! Of course, we'll also be stuck with the Mean Green Athletic Village, too. Unscrew it!

Maybe we are talking about 2 different bubbles, because the one I read about at UT had HVAC in it which would obviously need to be enclosed. UT's has the artificial turf field in it, too, so I don't know if the turf was part of the $4 million cost or not. (Where is Reb UT 70 when we need him)? Certainly, this is a facility that is on our wishlist at NT. I think it was cool that the UT Longhorn Band also used UT's Bubble. Hey! NT College of Music officials! It "ONLY" costs $4 million! Wanna' go "half'ies"?!?!? GMG!

1-800-UNT-2366 Was just reading the new NT 2005 football pocket schedule ticket prices and saw these fantastic season ticket prices for these 2 special (and large) groups: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** Recent NT Grads (2000-2005)...................$50 per season ticket >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** Parents of Incoming NT Freshmen.............$40 per season ticket (economy) ..................................................................$60 per season ticket (premium) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For Ticket Purchase Info, Call...........1-800-UNT-2366 Heard thru the green scene grapevine that season tickets are selling very, very nicely. Wonder if the USA Today/Mean Green front page hype helped a bit? GMG!

Of course, it was primarily built for Mack Brown's Texas Longhorn's football progarm. Also, other than the UT football team, the Longhorn Marching Band uses it as well as summer camps and other general student groups. Mack Brown said that in one football season that his Longhorn football team had 20 football practices affected by inclement weather. 20 lost practices seems like a whole bunch to me. There is a nice link on this and one of you might want to Google it, find it and link it (if you have time, that is). UT's air-filled "Bubble" is 125 yards long X 62 yards in width and 55 feet high. Quite frankly, I am surprised the Tea-sips got that facility for only $4 million. Obviously, it is also air conditioned and heated.

I can just hear the new battle-cry: IMPLODE THE "EXTERIOR" TO FOUTS FIELD! GMG!

Meager held up all last Fall as a true freshman w/o any injuries. I think we should give the kid some credit when its due. I am not a prophet so I don't know of any of our players that will hold up a full season without injuries. I do know we have lost other players for entire seasons with injuries and those players never received this much pre-season "can't stay healthy" hype. Once again, they lost full seasons to injury. Lets all worry that gas may go up to $3.00 a gallon, now that worries the hell outta' me and (unfortunately) we have no control over that, either. GMG!

Emmitt, I just feel like this particular discussion has turned into a little ol' ladies quilting bee social concerning Meager, that's all. Certainly Meager has had some bad luck with some nagging injuries, but he went thru all last Fall as a true freshman (working out every day) without any injuries that some seem to have forgotten about BUT.......... the part about his HS career that got my undivided attention came from a link Harry posted and that is how he came back from a HS injury at a Texas 5A HS and then led his team into the Texas UIL state play-offs. That showed some character about this young man IMO. Many of us once saw a QB who had had 5 major knee surgeries take his team to a Super Bowl and led his team in beating the Baltimore Cots in that game back in 1969 (I think that was the year that Namath guaranteed that NY Jets win). If we start seeing QB Dan Meager miss football games because of injuries then I would be more concerned, but I don't think we should until then. None of us really know how many reps anyone is getting out at the Mean Green Athletic Village. Dickey will probably let all of us know if there is a really serious problem with any of our players, but all we do on this board is speculate on things we think are happening out there. How many concussions (which Meager did not have the other day BTW) did Troy Aikman have in his Dallas Cowboy's career and he just kept coming back like that battery-operated rabbit? I hope for Meager and all of us most concerned (and thats the entire MG Nation) that he overcomes this string of nagging injuries and becomes the QB that made about 1/4'th of NCAA D-A show an interest in him his senior year at Richardson Pearce HS. I think we would all like such a happy ending to this story in Mean Green Country. I bet the entire Meager family would too. GMG!

You know, Cobbs got hurt last season (2 injuries as I recall) and he lost a season, we had a 2-a-day Fall practice-induced injury with Scott Hall 3 years ago who would lose an entire season that left an opening for a inexperienced RS frosh to take over--and engineer our team to a winning bowl game that year. Yet Hall was also hurt his freshmen year when we went to a bowl game, but I never heard the injury bugaboo title given to either. Booger Kennedy did not have the senior year we thought he would have because he had nagging inuries all last season that prevented that. No "Mr. Injury" title given to Booger. The young RS freshman QB Dan Meager has a few injuries here and there and he is a marked man. I don't get it with the Mean Green Nation sometimes; I think if our RS frosh were to get a razor cut shaving today some of you would suggest he just hang it up. Football? You ever play it? It usually means injuries at some point, some major and some minor. Until someone says any of our Mean Green players have the dreaded "season-ending injury" these guys just have to go with what they've been dealt and go with it. Even Super Jamario had a hammy' problem last season and sat out an entire game because of it. Its just what happens if you play the game no matter what level you play it. NOW....LET'S CHANGE TO A SUBJECT WE DO HAVE SOME SEMBLANCE OF CONTROL OVER! HOW AOBUT.................A NEW FOOTBALL STADIUM! GMG!

Without giving anything away here from the MGR, but if a particular one of those 3 becomes academically inelgible, we "only" have a Texas state top 100 recruit working out in that spot now. I feel pretty darn good about his chances this Fall even if the one he might spell were elgible. However, lets all keep our fingers crossed. PS: FWIW, this is usually the time in Fall camp that you have more minor injuries, ie, hamstrings, niks, cuts, scratches and bruises than you can shake a stick at.

I read where the Troy U QB has been in only 5 plays in D1-A football. The Trojans other more experienced QB flunked out if all will recall. I am trying to recall how many plays the great Andrew Smith had been in on before Scott Hall went down. I think most on this board know the answer to that. GMG!

If we don't beat Tulsa and La Tech (who are supposed to finish somewhere in the middle of the WAC) we will need to do some serious re-grouping with the football program. I feel like we'll be OK at La Tech because our defense should have meshed by that time of season with all cylinders running. If we think we are going to have problems running on La Tech I only defer to last years Colorado game. Lets not cut ourselves short on this OOC discussion. I think the Tulsa game could have a shaky start with so many new faces on defense in only our 3'rd game, but I still think we win it with our much superior offense that has a pretty darn good offensive line this year. USA Today told the whole country about our 2 RB's just yesterday (but we all sorta' knew about them anyway, now didn't we)? Actually, I believe this NT offense will keep the Mean Green "D" off the field (ie, re-group time) many times this season with sustained drives; that is, if our 2 RB's don't spend all their time breaking 50 and 60 yard TD runs. 2 & 2 GMG!

NT's Isheed Khoury once kicked a 53 yard field goal in the Richmond Stadium during the Fry era.

So true...

I am not worried about the LSU game because they are a freakin' Top 10 school whose alums give like there's no tomorrow and they have us (as well as many others) beat on most other athletic-related facilities & resources (at the moment anyway). I think Coach DD says something like this before the pre-game prayer: "OK guys, go out there, execute, keep penalties to a minimum, do what you learned in 2-a-days and thereafter, have a good time tonight AND we as coaches will do whatever needs be to keep you fresh in this hot, muggy weather. 'Yet do have a good time tonight but remember this--we have a game next week that has much more far-reaching ramifications than this non conference game tonight." A Darrell Dickey PS: "BTW, those Tigers put on their pants just like you do--one leg at at time!" (Had to add that because my own HS football coach would tell our team that when we were up against a helluva' world-beater football team). GMG!

Again, Fouts Field is an old stadium built about 1951. It doesn't have the best exterior appearance to those 50,000 who pass by it daily, but the inside of Fouts is where they play the game. Anyone need further reminders as to another reason we are upgrading to a new football stadium at Eagle Point Campus? How about it's just the right time to do it, folks, and its going to happen sooner than later--mark it!