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Where did Brent Osborn transfer to ?
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He didn't, he graduated.
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What? No TCU Day?
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Can they do that with buck-toothed dogs?
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Sorry, I know it was marketed as such, but I don't think this was the most talented team ever. Maybe they had the most potential or natural ability, but they weren't proven. Not making an excuse for Benford, because I was shocked af the season we had. Just my own personal opinion.
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Has to work on mobility and quickness but he has some tools. That first step off the ball is critical at this level and he has to improve that, but he has natural size and is fiery. Two things that can't be taught.
Needs to be more consistent as well. Been known to have good days here and there but also been known to have some complete no shows.
We need him for depth. The good news is that he is a redshirt freshman.
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I looked at every Tulsa class back to 02. They had a number of classes with no DT's signed and the majority with 2 stars that had some sort of size issue, either too short with good weight or tall and a tad too light. They also had a number of JUCO's. Point being, unless you are a Big 5 conference school it is a hit and miss process.
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One other thing I'll mention, and I'll leave it alone. It shouldn't be a shock to anyone that UNT is struggling to recruit DL and OL talent. We've all been saying this for the better part of this decade. It's extremely difficult for ANY school not in the top 10-15 to get those guys because they are so rare. The good news is that you don't have to find an entire line worth of 5* guys. You only really need 1 or 2 to make a huge difference.
The last thing is this--McCarney has absolutely begun to turn around the difference in size and strength of UNT's team. Look back at the size of the recruits this team was getting just 2-3 years ago and where they are now. The machine is in place. It needs to be fed now. IMO, this signing class was essentially Mac's 2nd. I think the team has improved tremendously in that span, and now it's up to the coaches and players to see what they can deliver on the field this year. No predictions yet, but as we began to see last year, UNT is now much better coached, and is looking more and more like a program that matches up well physically with the teams they are playing. That was not the case in the last 7-8 years.
EDIT: I just saw that the DMN ran a story on what I just mentioned regarding size, speed, and the like. Agree 100%.
I agree to some extent. I would argue, though, about the OL. Johnson and Y'Barbo were in Dodge's last class and Lemon was in Mac's first. I don't think OL recruiting has suffered too terribly, but it is tough to find DL, or I should say, DT talent.
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I have sent the article to a lab in College Station that analyzes BS. This article has a a very strong odor of it.
How so?
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Yes, "drunk" is a good description to use.
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Once found a catfish stuffed in the cup on the 12th green.
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He was PAC12 Coach of the Year. Convenient those critical left that out. Earning that at WSU is nothing short of a miracle.
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So you point to Dodge using JUCO's yet this coming season DMac is going to depend on many JUCO's and transfers, how is this different?
H-towngreen and glick1980 beat me to it. I think it was pretty obvious.
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I'm well aware that he wouldn't come here. When Benford is done, the list of people of will come here will have narrowed considerably. Point is, we should have hired a head coach with experience like we were promised.
Look, everyone, including the national media, thought Benford was the right hire. Hopefully, he will turn this around and prove everyone right, but to say the list of people that will want to come here will narrow considerably should he leave is ridiculous.
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UNT90, I understand your frustrations, but I fail to believe the administration will let this continue for too long. Ernie Kuehne that gave $1 million to athletics and just raised a wad of cash in a very short amount of time for the basketball practice facility is a big fan of the basketball program and is now on the BOR. I don't see him investing in the program like he has and letting this go on too long.
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You also invest in your strength and conditioning program (something just recently done at UNT) and you start converting fullbacks to DEs, linebackers to DTs. This was the approach used by TCU to turn it around (obviously, they don't have to do that anymore).
I like Mac as a head coach. I think he has done a lot of things right. But, like TFLF said, if he fails this year, it will be because Apogee and an experienced college football coach still couldn't change recruiting at UNT.
I do believe it all goes back to Dodge. He made us the joke of the college football world and the least respected FBS football program in Texas (UTSA and Tx St. Are more respected as 1st year entries). Players have a VERY hard time seeing an upside to UNT football because for those recruits entire football watching lives, UNT has been the laughing stock of Texas football (2004 was great, but a 2014 recruit was 8 years old when that happened). Kinda hard to recruit when you are facing that kind of perception, as I'm sure Mac quickly found out.
I think Mac is our best chance, but I don't really like his chances.
This will shock you, but I agree with most of your post but I like our chances and think we are headed in the right direction. This year is critical though. We must show marked improvement.
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I agree Harry. I did look back through Tulsa's signing classes from 2002 to present and interestingly enough, they have also struggled at signing DT's. The usually end up with two star prospects, both JUCO and HS, some with size and some lacking a little (either good weight, but short, or vice versa), and some years they didn't sign any. I think you try to hit on some of these kids like we have in the past, but it is a numbers game. McDorman, for example, looked like a great find, but then injuries jump up and end a career unexpectedly. You just keep looking and hope you find another Booger or Evan Cardwell out there. It is interesting that two of our upcoming HOF inductees were undersized DT's in Kennedy and Chapman.
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It is a tad ironic that many fans/alums want a coach with HC experience and success at the D1 level, Dan McCarney, but reference, or agree with a reference, to the superior hiring of Arkansas State, ULL and ULM.
Arkansas State: hired assistants from top programs and have become a stepping stone job. Malzahn was basically the Todd Dodge of Arkansas who spent a few years as an offensive assistant prior to taking the head job. Dodge, who almost killed our program, spent a year or two as a successful college offensive assistant before becoming a .500 record high school coach prior to falling into the SLC job that brought his noteriety. Malzahn replaced Hugh Freeze who was the ASU OC for one year and was previously the HC at Lambuth University, NAIA, for two seasons. Malzahn recently left and was replaced by Bryan Harsin, former UT and Boise State OC, who doesn't have any head coaching experience.
ULL: hired an assistant, Mark Hudspeth, from a larger program, Mississippi St., to replace a failed assistant, Ricky Bustle, from a major, Va Tech, program. Hudspeth did have success at North Alabama on the DII level.
ULM: hired Todd Berry who was terrible at Army, tough place to coach, and has two years of success at Illinois State after two poor years. He has had one winning record at ULM (2012) after two losing seasons while working on a shoestring budget. His team leader, Kolton Browning, was a two star recruit with limited offers from 3A Mabank.
The only one with D1 head coaching experience was Berry and it was a failure. He has had one winning season in seven years as a D1 head coach and had a 5-35 D1 HC record prior to accepting the ULM position. He was an offensive assistant for ULM (2 years), Miami, FL (1 season) and UNLV (3 years) between being a head coach at Army and accepting the ULM HC position.
Would any of us have been overly pleased with any of these hires as a HC at NT? Something to think about and proof that some people succeed as a head coach while others that are successful assistants just never pan out. Norv Turner and Dom Capers on the NFL level come to mind. Just goes to show that you never really know who will be successful and who won't. The successful ones move on from our level to bigger conferences, so the hiring process for teams like us is many times, more difficult than that of a big conference school.
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That's alright. Dr. House is an excellent knee surgeon. Just get him in a good rehab program.
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"heavy sigh"......and he started out so young and positive.........
I know. Posts full of good information and at the flick of a switch...jaded!
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JAGR is 40.
Rick
He is a man!
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Actually it really isn't about what is or isn't likely/true. It is about the fact that a poster that actually can provide good commentary on sports has become such a broken record on this issue. Almost every thread has something from 90 on why our AD sucks. We get it. You dislike how the AD runs things. You dislike the low expectations of the few fans left. I get it. We all get it. I am pretty sure CheckFacts,Cougarking, and the Froggy dude have more positive postings about UNT these days that UNT90. It has pretty much reached troll status.
The blog piece was about the need for the seniors to step up and lead the team to more wins this year and that some will be tough to replace. It decended into a UNT sucks thread. That was my objection to the derailment. It seems we have so few football related threads anyway and when we do they too often turn into a bash UNT, bash RV, bash the AD, bash Mac, bash other fans thread. Really tired of it.
I know you and 90 and many others are tired of losing, tired of low expectations, tired of mistakes by the AD. I understand. I get it. I even share many of the same concerns. But it would be really great to actually discuss football and position battles and such in threads about football.
Amen
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I would put Ohio, Tulsa. Ball St. down as losses right along with Geogia. If we don't find some depth up front defensively, you can also put down MTSU, UTEP, La. Tech and USM in that category, also.
Our best bet is to hope we can outscore our opponents a la La. Tech did last year. Not.a great option, considering we will be relying on many unproven players to spice up a 20 PPG offense.
Beown's injury hurt. The failure to recruit DTs. Hurts even more. No pass rush and a weak run defense aways equals a bad secondary , no matter what talent you have at CB and S.
Big challenges ahead.
With your motivational ability, we would be 0fer in District 5-5A.
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I heard we are digging a lake for our fishing team at Mean Green Village.
Just expand the duck pond. There are some monster catfish in there unfortunately they can't be included in a bass tournament.
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the cupboard was bare was the mantra the last 2 years as many tore down the players now those same players are really filling out the 2-deep? If the cupboard was so bare then the 2 Deep should be full of Mac's players meaning JR and younger (RS-So, RS-Fr). Maybe Mac is no different than Dodge other than he has more Asst Coach National Titles.
I think the point is that when Dodge left there were very few upperclassmen due to his reliance on the JUCO's in his last years. Mac's recruits that are in the two-deep or are getting a lot of attention/playing time currently or last season are all over the place. Some that come to mind are Akunne, Berglund, Jimmerson, Harris, Kirby, Busby, Lewis, Lemon, Lee, Pegram, Terrell, Warner, Whitfield, Polk, Evans, Trice, and Brown until his injury. Dodge definitely hit on Y'Barbo, Bellazin, Chancellor, maybe Byrd, Orr, Johnson, etc... but they were all very young when Mac arrived.
Please tell me you are kidding on the sentence I placed in bold.
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Can Benford ever recover from this past year?
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I agree completely.
I'm missing something here. Can someone elaborate?