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  1. On 4/16/2021 at 8:59 PM, Rudy said:

    I don't think we're really talking about football since the precedent has already been set. I think the issue is more about a guy who can't make it as a shot putter suddenly deciding to compete in the women's division. Or a 6'2 male competing in the women's 200m hurdles. 

    Set yes, but are we close to a woman who will be a legitimate contributor to a mens football team? The truth is that women/girls will stand to lose out on this if it becomes more common. 

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  2. 30 minutes ago, golfingomez said:

    if you look at the past 25 years of North Texas football, how many players have we had that would transfer "up" because they knew they could start at a P5?

    Booger? 

    anyone else? I would argue that Rico Bussey was as talented as anyone we've had here for the past 15 years, and he only transferred to Hawaii...

    Guyton Transferred here, so that means he would have to sit to transfer again, same with Trice... 

    Robertson, Orr, Lance, Wilson were all outstanding players for us... but i doubt any P5 recruiting them could guarantee them a starting spot...

     

    I think the key for the P5s is the player not having to sit. Might be worth it to provide depth and start if needed.
     

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  3. 1 hour ago, drex said:

    I am confident McCasland will field the best talent he could get, no matter where they came from.

    GM has shown he has a plan to put together a competitive team come conference tournament time. With all of the new faces we might start slow, but I have faith in GM to have the team ready for the conference tournament. 

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  4. 23 hours ago, BillySee58 said:

    Agreed. I think something really adding to the fear here is this happening at the same time as all of the senior class getting an extra year of eligibility. We have an entire extra class of student-athletes retaining eligibility who normally would be on their way out making room for HS athletes and JUCOs. That’s creating an overflow of athletes available for essentially the same amount of roster spots.

    Would Jalen Jackson and Mykell Robinson be transferring if Thomas Bell, JJ Murray, and Jahmiah Simmons had vacated their spot on the roster like they would have in a normal year? Not sure, but it’s happening all across the country and it’s necessitating transfers if teams want to keep their guys, or other teams’ seniors.

    As long as P5 schools don’t get to raise their scholarship limit, it will all even out.

    From ESPN

    Combine the number of transfers with the NCAA's decision to give athletes in all sports a free year of eligibility because of the pandemic and there is little doubt that there will be more scholarship-worthy major college football players than available scholarships over the next few seasons.

    Coaches have already begun lobbying for relief in the form of increasing either the yearly cap of 25 signees or the overall roster cap of 85 scholarship players. Mack Brown is among those who have mentioned allowing programs to add a transfer if they lose a transfer.

     

  5. NCAA rules already prohibit recruiting players who are not yet in the portal, but skirting tampering violations by making indirect contact with athletes through high school coaches or personal trainers is already a fact of life.

    That's especially problematic in basketball, where the up-transfer -- a quality mid-major player leaving for a school in a traditional power conference -- has become common.

    https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/31265350/ncaa-division-council-panel-formally-approves-new-transfer-rules

  6. From an article on ESPN talking about the no-sit rule passing

     

    "There's over 2,000 kids that went into the football transfer portal," North Carolina coach Mack Brown said. "The last update that I got was that only 37% had a place to go."

     

    Not all of the kids in the portal were on scholarship; but how many have lost their chance at having school paid for? Players want the freedom to move but for many the decision could change their future in a much different way than they planned. 

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  7. 10 minutes ago, PlummMeanGreen said:

    So these (seemedly) not well thought out new ideas are what we get from the NCAA offices when they are trying to make work to justify their jobs?  
    They sound  & function more like government bureaucrats every passing day. 
     

    The NCAA looks like it is trying to appease P5s and players in hope of hanging on and not giving the P5s the "last straw' they are looking for to form their own league. College sports at the top levels stopped being amature sports a long time ago. I think once enough of the P5 college presidents are willing to publicly admit that these are semi-pro programs attached to a school and that they are athlete-students in as far as making money for the schools the P5 will break off in some form.  

  8. 11 minutes ago, outoftown said:

    If I am a coach I wonder how I might react. A number of coaches might try to take transfers after their first year rather than HS recruits (transfers with 3/4 or 4/4 of eligibility), and develop those rather than HS recruits, just because those will not be able to leave like the HS recruits, because they already did their one free transfer.

    Potentially also makes it less important to be in thick with the HS coaches.

    It might make it more important than ever to stay thick with HS coaches. Have heard comments where one of the most common ways for other schools to "reach out" to a player who they think might be transferring, or not happy where he's at is for the new school to "mention" it to their HS coaches. Let them know that the player would be welcomed at their school.

    Also will be more important than ever for schools like UNT to keep in touch with players who showed interest and then commited to larger programs. Never know when they might be looking again.

  9. 8 minutes ago, southsideguy said:

    So the big boys tell players to go to a G-5 develop in the first two years and we will give u call when it time to come up? 

    G5 the new developmental league for P5? Hope not, but it will be interesting to see what happens. There will still be options for G5s to pick up good players in the transfer portal, maybe even more options if a player coming up on his Jr/Sr season knows he can transfer without sitting. It will be more important than ever to have a good "transfer recruiting" program to know which transfers can contribute. SMU has shown what a difference transfers can make if you use the transfer process well.

  10. 1 hour ago, BillySee58 said:

    Agreed. I think something really adding to the fear here is this happening at the same time as all of the senior class getting an extra year of eligibility. We have an entire extra class of student-athletes retaining eligibility who normally would be on their way out making room for HS athletes and JUCOs. That’s creating an overflow of athletes available for essentially the same amount of roster spots.

    Would Jalen Jackson and Mykell Robinson be transferring if Thomas Bell, JJ Murray, and Jahmiah Simmons had vacated their spot on the roster like they would have in a normal year? Not sure, but it’s happening all across the country and it’s necessitating transfers if teams want to keep their guys, or other teams’ seniors.

    As long as P5 schools don’t get to raise their scholarship limit, it will all even out.

    Transferring by itself might not change that much, but combine it with the NIL and it is opening up a lot of opportunities to recruit and bid on players. 

    I think for G5 schools you will see a lot of Jr/Sr players from P5 schools become available. As the P5's bring in the new talent, they will be forced to play younger players out of concern they will easily transfer out if they don't play. As the younger players take the time, older players might be looking to move on. 

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  11. 30 minutes ago, emmitt01 said:

    “P5” schools will use this to turn the lower level schools into a D-League.  
     

    Watch CUSA/MAC/AAC/Belt games, figure out who can play, and recruit them that off-season.  

    @emmitt01Great point. The G5 schools that take the time and chances on players to develop them will be screwed.  If a G5 player tears it up you can bet the will be recruited.

  12. 30 minutes ago, Cr1028 said:

    I dont think this will be good for anyone except for the perennial top 25 teams. The best G5 and FCS players will get poached more easily because the disincentive has been removed. The headache prima donna bench players from those top 25 teams will jump to G5 teams without having to sit. I see it as a net negative for the teams not traditionally seen as elite around the country. It is essentially free agency without a salary cap. Gonna have about 25 NY Yankees and nearly a hundred Milwaukee Brewers.

     

     

    In agreement. I think you will see P5 team using this to fill holes. Hopefully we find a way to use this to our advantage. Adding this and the upcoming ability to pay for players (NIL), big $$ schools will feast.

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