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  1. New Roster Numbers Are Out

    in UNT Football Recruiting

    Posted

    I put out recruiting tiers a few months ago. Not many states have to deal with many levels like recruiting in Texas. Its not a good comparision.

    In Florida, you have fsu, Miami, and Florida. If they havent gotten in touch with you, you know where you stand.

    In Texas you have lsu, UT, am, ou at the top. You still have tech, Baylor, osu, tcu, as a strong second tier. These schools are some kid's dream school and you can get a good recruit to commit early to these schools.

    To get 3 stars (or higher) to commit and not wait for bigger conference schools, UNT has to become a recruits favorite school. That is going to take some time. A few winning seasons, and UNT can become a second tier school to Denton area athletes.

    You make it seem like out of state schools don't recruit Florida. All of the SEC schools recruit Florida, as well as the ACC, and schools all across the country. That creates more tiers. Either way, those tiers are not end all, be all.

    I'm not saying I was expecting us to be outrecruiting Texas Tech and Oklahoma State, and schools like that. Our coaches have more to pitch now and perception has improved. It's not night and day different, but we were all hoping for improvement in our recruiting. Even Coach Mccarney has said so. But, to this point, we haven't seen that.

    Look at the offer lists of the players committed to those schools I mentioned. You'll see some players committed with no offers, a few other lower-tier offers, and kids with P5 offers. But which schools have offered those commits is not the most important thing.

    These schools (FAU, La Tech, West. Michigan, etc) are getting kids to pull the trigger and either not hold out for bigger offers or choose them over bigger offers. If you've been reading Vito's recruiting series, 90%+ of those kids have stated that they will wait out the process.

    Not saying that we won't have a good class, or that we won't have an improved class. But to this point we still do appear to be behind the curve in recruiting.

  2. New Roster Numbers Are Out

    in UNT Football Recruiting

    Posted · Edited by BillySee58

    One winning season isnt enough to sway a good 3 star level athlete from a sorry big 12 or aac team.

    Whether we like it or not, these kids are waiting for a bigger school. Even the ones that have committed the last few years, current players, and the ones that have played and moved on were waiting for more established programs and big 12 schools.

    The selling playing time thing is not much of an advantage as some think, because the lower level big 12, sec, aac schools offer the same thing in some cases. DJ dean played for Arkansas last season. TCU and Tech has 2013 players slated to start in some spots.

    Only thing that can trump playing for a bottom big 12 school is winning and going to bowls, while they stay home.

    We will most likely have a similar class to last year, but hopefully it can net sone goree level DTs, DBs, and QB.

    Sure you can sway players away from lower level Big 12 or AAC teams. AAC isn't even an AQ/P5 conference anymore anyways. They have better TV exposure and some bigger name schools but if you can really get a kid to buy what you're selling than an offer from an AAC school or a lower-tier big 12 school like Kansas or Iowa State is far from an offer that will completely change the dynamic of that kid's recruitment. Different story if it's with an upper-tier school like Texas or Oklahoma.

    I agree about the playing time pitch. It has more to do with a team's current depth at that position than how prestigious a team it is.

    Look across our conference and you'll see teams convincing kids to commit now. Not even necessarily beating out P5 schools for kids early on, but kids with solid offer lists like a kid like Niko Small, who I hope we get a commitment from next month when he announces. Then you've got a school like FAU, who wasn't even in a bowl game. They have plenty of kids committed with P5 offers already. Here's their commitment list.

    http://fau.247sports.com/Season/2015-Football/Commits

    La Tech's (4-8 last year) commitment list

    http://latech.247sports.com/Season/2015-Football/Commits

    And Western Michigan (1-11 last year)

    http://westernmichigan.247sports.com/Season/2015-Football/Commits

    Western Michigan was 1-11 last year in the MAC but they've got a young coach who relates to young players and has been getting it done on the trail. It doesn't have to take 4 straight nine-win seasons for us to see a pick up in our recruiting.

  3. New Roster Numbers Are Out

    in UNT Football Recruiting

    Posted

    I would rather us wait to get the majority of our commits after another winning season and after some smoke clears.

    I feel like that'd just result in a repeat of last year's class. We'd have two winning years in our favor, but a lot of players would be already committed or have us eliminates where it'd be too late. I think those factors would cancel out.

    Again, having a class similar to last year's would be fine. I was just hoping to see us recruiting like the big boys. Not just of the country, but of this conference.

  5. '15 OL Abdul Beecham (Converse Judson)

    in UNT Football Recruiting

  6. New Roster Numbers Are Out

    in UNT Football Recruiting

    Posted

    I was really hoping we would have picked up one or two commits after 2 camps.

    We will likely end up with some good players and a solid class, but this is very disappointing.

    Late July-early August was when our big string of commits came. Until then we only had 2 (who committed in May). So we still have time to get a good class like last year, but we wanted to see a noticeable improvement in our recruiting because of our breakthrough season.

  7. MGB: UNT summer questions series Part III: Can UNT rebuild its DL?

    in Mean Green Football

    Posted

    Not trying to sound like an organ head, but it's not exactly going out on a limb saying Goree will play right away. Also, size (weight) is very overrated when it comes to receivers IMO, especially on the outside as GOMG alluded to.

    That being said, I think Goree has physicality going in his favor. I also think he will be very big by the time he's done here. His body type and muscle type clearly have tons of room for bulk. Not true for every tall receiver.

    I think he leaves here as our all-time leading receiver. I know that sounds extreme, but I really think it's not when you think about it. We have not benefitted from the major development in the passing game over the last 15 years. It's a very breakable record.

  11. MGB: Breaking news -- UNT's Chris Jones to transfer

    in Mean Green Basketball

    Posted

    Pulling the "it's going to take him time to turn this around" card again. Because we weren't coming off 3 straight sun belt title game appearances, or returning all 5 starters including a preseason top 5 overall NBA prospect in Tony Mitchell. Instead he compares this to how Mac turned around the football program. I guess Dodge's tenure was pretty similar to last 4 years of JJ's run.

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  12. MGB: Breaking news -- UNT's Chris Jones to transfer

    in Mean Green Basketball

    Posted

    Last year we had to replace Tony Mitchell and Roger Franklin in the post. Benford's replacements finished 14th out of 16 teams in rebounding margin, in a down year for CUSA. We were able to lean on decent guard play mainly consisting of JJ holdovers.

    Maybe you weren't a huge fan of CJ. But we're replacing him, Alzee (1000 point scorer), Brandan Walton (always came through in March), and Vertail Vaughns (7.3 ppg and a former starter on an NCAA tournament team), with a bunch of guys who had no other offers.

    Between our 4 incoming guards, they had a combined 1 offer from a Division 1 school not named North Texas. Todd Eaglin had 0 other offers, Carrington Ward had 0 other offers, Deandre Harris had 0 other offers, and Greg White-Pittman had 1 offer in New Orleans. This could very easily lead to bottom of the conference guards coupled with our bottom of the conference post play. Just sad to see how quickly this program has fallen.

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  15. New Roster Numbers Are Out

    in UNT Football Recruiting

    Posted

    Bean is listed on 2 deep, so I assume he's cleared to play.

    Exactly. Which leads me to believe he may be walking on. Although it seems strange. He would've counted towards last class if he was a grad transfer coming in on scholarship.

    Also, it's kind of funny seeing all these freshmen with numbers that are not highly coveted, then Tee Goree has a single digit number. I do expect big things from Tee, but I understand he may need a little bit of time. I just see the guy stepping out and balling from day 1.

  16. New Roster Numbers Are Out

    in UNT Football Recruiting

    Posted

    I'm not sure about Bean. Haven't heard much about him from Vito or any other sources. If he's eligible to play this season then he's either a grad transfer or he's walking on. If he's coming in as a grad transfer (like Evans) then he should've counted towards last signing class like Evans did in 2013.

  17. Niko Small update from Vito

    in UNT Football Recruiting

    Posted

    Our engineering college's programs.

    http://engineering.unt.edu/

    This kid's recruitment is big for us IMO. He has a good offer list, but no programs that are really ahead of us. Definitely not schools that we should be losing out on Arlington kids for. And two division mates (La Tech and USM). If his offer list doesn't add a gamechanger then we have a great shot at getting him this summer. And he's a 3-star which helps with class perception.

    As for playing time, we really only really have two free safeties on our roster and one is a senior now (Zed Evans) and the other will be a senior when Small gets here (Freddie Warner). Small could be groomed behind Warner for a year and take over by the time he's a sophomore. Not a sure thing, but potentially a very good situation for him to walk into.

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  22. '15 DE Tipa Galeai (Euless Trinity)

    in UNT Football Recruiting

  23. How does UNT’s QB situation shake out?

    in Mean Green Football

    Posted · Edited by BillySee58

    If DT was merely an average QB, then 95% of North Texas QBs over the years were god awful.

    Pretty much. Especially in the last 15-20 years when we've seen an immense development in the passing game.

    But I agree with H-Town and GOMG. He had some good games, was a great leader, and a great representative of our school. But if we're missing him that means we'll be missing his production.

    He had some good nonconference games, but he had just 8 tds against 10 ints in conference play, and 2 pick sixes in games we lost by 9 points combined. If we're missing that production then we'll have something noticeably worse at qb. Noticeably worse than that would suck, like GOMG said. It really is hard to break down DTs stats without sounding ungrateful. But we have to be able to replace his production.

  24. How does UNT’s QB situation shake out?

    in Mean Green Football

    Posted · Edited by BillySee58

    What is the basis for this hope?

    Hope itself?

    You want a better QB, but will be fine if they just put up the same horrible numbers as DT?

    You do realize that QBs are a product of the system. Our system calls for a bus driver.

    I really question whether Soza would have ever seen the field at UNT. Not the system QB that this head coach wants.

    And that's fine. As long as you win.

    Soza wouldn't have seen the field here and Johnny Manziel wouldn't have seen the field here. Sumlin played him because of his potential, not necessarily because he earned it in practice. Just as Berglund and it looks like Dajon may not see the field here.

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