BillySee58

Lol saying “ha! You understand numbers and do research!” is not the own you think it is. Well, it is. Just not at the target you intended.

Have you ever considered that you, the guy who said Benford wasn’t the problem, that Zach Simmons wasn’t going to be good, and who I have to explain to how the NET formula works every year and still doesn’t understand based on a recent post, might be the one who isn’t that knowledgeable? Brune is solid. He brings basketball analysis, incorporates numbers to back up what he sees, and has good guests. There’s a reason he was hired to do the basketball podcast for Dave Campbell.

Really good win. That Scott offensive rebound and one really swung the momentum for us when it looked like things could get away from us late.

It does.

They have a Liberty vibe to them. For-profit Christian University owned by a publicly traded parent with about 70,000 online students to go along with over 20,000 on campus.

@NorthTexasWeLove @greenminer You guys respectively said things alongs the lines of “this is outdated” to have HS recruiting have to go through the HS coaches for introduction in today’s game, and does it really matter what the High School coaches perception of our coaches is if the recruit himself is the one making the decision. See the quote above. Some (many?) HS coaches still feel that proper etiquette is for college coaches to go through the high school coaches before extending offers to the players at those schools. It is still pretty standard procedure AFTER the college has identified the player that they show up to an offseason workout or spring practice and go through the coaches first, even if they already have messaged the player through social media.

Just let the man try out then go start his 9-5 in piece

If anyone was concerned that a tight win against a bad team might hurt our NET, we actually moved up to 67 from 69. Not great but just glad it didn’t hurt us there.

Also a missed goaltending that should’ve been two points for us, a couple extremely ticky tack calls on Ousmane, and Huntsberry getting hacked twice on the arm on drives to the rim that they called clean. I really hate bringing up bad refereeing as an excuse, but the zebras earned it today.

Exactly. Blow these hacks out please

Us extending offers isn’t the problem. It’s building relationships with the coaches and the players once we’re on the campuses of these powerhouse programs. Many of these schools send kids to P5s every single season. And many of the coaches are truthfully trying to get their kids to sign with the biggest name programs as possible. It makes them look good. Our coaches do a lot of visiting schools in the spring, when we are starting to really ramp up the recruiting on Juniors. Let’s say we go visit a school in February, when the football players are doing their offseason after school workouts. Our coach visiting will talk with their coach and say “so can I meet with so and so?” The high school coach can go two directions here. “Yeah, let’s go talk with him!” or “yes but first I want you to meet with these other kid(s).” Very often these DFW coaches will take that second route. When they see North Texas on our shirt, they usually aren’t thinking “oh, that’s where I want my star player going.” They are usually thinking “oh, there’s a lesser school that some of my borderline D1 players could maybe get a scholarship from.” So when we visit and the HS coaches try and steer us to their borderline D1 kids that we don’t want, and we don’t end up seriously recruiting them, it can sour our reputation there (and has). And on the flip side, when we go in and want to talk to a player we have identified and the coach tries to steer us towards other players while trying to steer that top player away from us towards the bigger name schools recruiting him, it makes us less likely to visit that school.

It may very well have hurt our coaches to pass up that player. We have 4 sophomore scholarship running backs who all get carries when healthy, and two freshmen scholarship running backs as well. We had our 2022 high school RB spot filled back in April 2021, and that seemed to end our RB recruiting for the class as I don’t think any offers were extended after that.

Exactly. And this has been the experience in DFW for the last two coaching staffs to the point where their reputation from many local coaches is soured by the end of their tenure. May very well happen to the next coach until we really get our perception to change.

We do. Knowing the names of the kids isn’t the issue. Going into the schools and being steered away from the kids we really want and towards the kids we don’t is the issue.

It updates daily. We were 68 yesterday. But yes, CUSA is strong again in men’s basketball. Definitely has not been the problem of this conference since we joined.

In my scenario I want to emphasize that the main point is there are two sides to these stories, and when there is a large disconnect that’s where we start to divert our attention elsewhere. I’m sure many HS coaches feel like we are being cocky for not offering their FCS level talent, and they think we’re being too good because their expectations of what caliber players UNT should be recruiting doesn’t align with the caliber players that UNT coaches want from that school. When there is that disconnect, it honestly makes sense for us to not be showing up in those schools as much as others. On the flip side, if Saban comes into town, every coach in the state is rolling out the red carpet for him and they’re going to try and sell their top players to him, unlike they would with a UNT Coach. I’ve heard these conversations before of HS coaches saying “oh, yeah Baylor/Colorado/etc. already offered him” as a way of telling the G5 coach he’s not worth your time. Meanwhile, we don’t want those type of kids to be off limits. We can and have been signing those type of recruits every year, even if it’s after those offers dry up.

To many who didn’t go to UNT, all we are is a school that’s a chance for a kid to get ask FBS scholarship. For the most part, they want to be the coach that got as many kids signed to P5 schools as possible. They know it looks better to say they got a kid signed by TCU or Texas Tech than it does to say they got one signed to North Texas. And many coaches are in it for the right reasons. I’m not talking about those guys.

Here’s how this seems to go with UNT coaches recruiting DFW, especially Denton County: New UNT Coach: “Alright, time to build relationships with these local coaches at these great programs and get top recruits!” DFW HS Coach: “Hey coach! I want to make sure every player of mine worthwhile goes to a P5 even if it’s their only P5 offer and they’re going to ride the bench there. But hey, will you please offer my FCS/D2 level players?” New UNT Coach: “Ummm we will consider it.” DFW HS Coach: “Man, I don’t really like that UNT Coach.” Mccarney ended up having more success in East Texas and Littrell really pulled some impressive Houston area recruits. Hopefully the new coach can be the one to make it a cool destination for local recruits, but it doesn’t come easily as overrecruited as this area is.

The NET ranking debut for the 2022-2023 season came out today. We are ranked 68, 3rd in CUSA. FAU at a very impressive 23 and UAB in at 54. We have some chances for resume boosters coming up in Grand Canyon (104) and UMass (75) both on neutral courts technically. https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-net-rankings

Littrell should’ve been fired when Marshall embarrassed us at home and dropped us to 1-5 last season. Or the next week when Liberty dropped us to 1-6. I don’t fault anyone for not wanting to watch a Seth Littrell product since then. ESPECIALLY after the bowl performance when he really had a chance to win everyone’s attention back. I’ll be there +3, but I am not going to be actively recruiting anyone towards UNT fandom until Littrell is gone. The biggest turn off to casual fans is when they do go and the product sucks. They don’t come back. And that’s what has happened, both with the last bowl game and the SMU home opener.

I am currently reading more into this than maybe I should

2nd half today might have been our best half of basketball all season. Excited to see how this team looks against the upcoming opponents. Looked like a glimpse of what this team can do when they play more cohesively and assertively.

Phil Bennett needs to be gone after this season. 121st defense in the country in yards, 102nd in points and those are only on track to get worse after tonight.

Opening at -8