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The mighty SEC vs the other P5’s during the regular season. Big 12: 1-2 Pac 12: 2-1 ACC: 4-6 Big 10: no games The biggest eye opener to me is that the SEC plays very few non-conference games against other P5’s. Each team plays about 1 P5, the rest are G5 and below.

Liberty is no where near the top G5’s of years past (Boise, UCF, Cincy, Tulane). Oregon may beat them by 50 and the conspiracy theorist in me says this is an intentional matchup to show that the G5’s don’t belong. SMU wouldn’t beat Oregon, but I think they could keep it reasonable.

Love it!!!

SMU needs to be replaced with aTm because they lost their starting QB last week and, well, aTm is in the SEC.😜

I completely agree about UCF getting screwed in 2018. I thought it was bad then and I still think it’s bad. The difference is that Oklahoma, Clemson and Alabama all had a loss, and Georgia had two losses. Undefeated UCF was still left out. That’s much, much different than what happened this year. I get the point you’re making about Liberty, but their schedule was worse than weak and they don’t have a single quality win. In this case, that’s like comparing 3A ball to 6A. By the way, I dislike FSU more than I dislike Alabama.

Anything that is not a fact is an opinion regardless of what it’s based on. Not sure what’s weird about stating that FSU did everything they could on the field to earn a spot in the playoff. I know the real reason they aren’t in the playoff is politics, but my discussion is based on the premise that they didn’t get in because people “think” Alabama is better. As I said in an earlier post, just scrap the playoffs and go back to the AP voters choosing the National Champion. I mean, they would have all of this “observable evidence” to make to be certain they got it right.

I can see that you and the committee use it form the OPINION that Alabama is better than FSU instead of using results on the field. Look, I’m sorry the mighty SEC shouldn’t have a team in the playoff, but that’s just the way it worked out this year. Hypothetical (and I know how you’re going to answer this) what if Jordan Travis hadn’t gotten hurt and the FSU offense performed similarly the final two games? Thank you. I can’t believe I’m defending FSU. They are bottom 10, maybe even bottom 5 on my least favorite team list.

You use FSU barely winning a rivalry game against them, but you excuse Alabama having to win with a Hail Mary on 4th and 30 because it’s a rivalry game. You must be on the playoff committee 🤣😉

What can you tell me about that Auburn juggernaut that Alabama beat in miraculous fashion last week. All I know about them is that they beat Cal (yes, the Cal that most on this board say is terrible) by 4 points. And that was with Cal getting absolutely screwed on a scoop and score TD.

So you’re advocating basing it on opinion rather than on field results? Seems ridiculous to me, but I guess the committee agrees.

I agree that it varies from year to year and I don’t dispute that the SEC has generally been the best over the past 15 years. I just get beat down by all the people who act like the SEC is so far and above all the other conferences.

SEC being the best conference is another opinion. I doubt I’ll do the research to disprove it, but if you look at head to head competition against other conferences, the SEC doesn’t dominate. But since when does head to head competition matter?

Your opinion of who’s the best is doesn’t mean they’re the best. Edit: Your=anyone (especially the playoff committee) not@DentonLurker

Or did it??? SMU is also without their starting QB. The takeaway is this: Don’t lose your starting QB late in the season. (Even if you prove you can win without him). The committee will “ think,” and that’s when the problems start.

A safe bet. Well played🤣🤣

That’s not the point. The point is that they did everything asked of them…they won every game they played. You can’t keep a team out because you don’t “think” they are as good. If we’re going to play that game, I “think” Ohio State is better than either Texas or Alabama. I “think” Georgia would beat Texas and maybe Washington. If we’re going to go by what we “think” let’s just go back to letting AP voters decide the National Champion after the New Year’s Day bowl games. I mean, I “think” UNT is better than FIU, but that doesn’t mean much, does it?

I was going to post that SMU had a very easy schedule this year, but I looked at Liberty’s schedule and, wow, SMU had a gauntlet compared to Liberty.

This is the whole problem with the committee. Nothing needed to be assumed. Everything was decided on the playing field

That hurts to hear if you’re Wash St., but that’s the truth.

They also lost to Cal by 4 and we lost to Cal by 37. I’m sure there are many other differences we could find, but I was pointing out all of the similarities that I found to be unusually similar. They played a much more difficult schedule in a much more difficult conference. That’s why I said we were the G5 version of them.

I honestly don't know what prompted me to look at Washington State's schedule, but I did, and I noticed some strong similarities to UNT this season. 1) They are 5-7, we are 5-7 2) They lost 5 games by a total of 30 points: Arizona St. (11) UCLA (8), Stanford (3), Cal (4), Washington (4). We lost 5 games by a total of 28 points: UTSA (8), FIU (8), Tulane (7), Navy (3), Memphis (3). 3) They got beat pretty bad twice: Arizona (38) and Oregon (14). We got beast pretty bad twice: Cal (37) and SMU (24) Not trying to say we're on level with Washington St., but maybe we're the G5 version. No real point to this, I just thought it was interesting.

It seems to me we’ve done okay in the portal: Chandler Roger Ayo Adeyi Jay Maclin Mazin Richards Noah Rauschenberg Trey Cleveland Ethan Miner No doubt I’m overlooking some players. We are identifying people who can help the team, we just need more of them.

Pretty interesting to revisit. Several people had us losing to Cal, Navy, Memphis, Tulane, UTSA. and SMU. I would bet most thought the Cal game would have been closer and the Tulane game would have been worse. Navy and SMU about as expected. Probably varying opinions on how bad Memphis and UTSA would beat us, but I’m sure no one thought Memphis would have to score with 10 seconds left to beat us. Then there’s the FIU loss…🤷🏼‍♂️ Tip of the cap to @Jason Howeth @meanJewGreen @MeanGreenTexan and @El Paso Eagle Well done!

Congrats to SL. I think he’ll do a great job.

By “fine line” I mean that we lost 4 games that were one possession games very late in each game. You can pinpoint the reason(s) we lost those games, but the fact is each of them were very winnable.