UNT and Denton can point fingers at each other all day long, and it is not going to get us anywhere. Oh, and before you spout off about people living outside of Denton making comments, I lived in Denton for 27 years, the son of a UNT professor, Chairman of a Department, and Dean, so I have the historical knowledge to backup my views. The climate that currently exists was created over many years of neither institution supporting the other. The main culprit in all of this was Denton, so the hard feelings that UNT has are well earned. Show me one example of how Denton has supported any of its educational institution's athletic teams through facility upgrades/enhancements! Denton is just now getting around to building a suitable football facility for its public schools, only after every community surrounding it has done so. I played baseball at Denton High, and our field was easily the worst I played on. Did DISD ever do anything to improve it? No, not until the last few years when they realized what a disadvantage their students had against other community's students. Sure, UNT's athletic department should solicit more involvement from the community's citizens and businesses, but after 113 years of futile results, don't you think UNT wonders why they put forth the effort? Shouldn't the long term businesses be able to figure out who to contact if they want to support UNT? True, we have to keep trying, but like someone said earlier, "If the girl keeps saying no, go looking for another." I think PMG's idea to sell UNT to the Lewisville community is great. Maybe then Denton would again realize it has fallen behind the times, and jump on the bandwagon at the last minute! I'll step down now