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  2. no plans, but potential interest

    in Mean Green Basketball

    Posted

    42 minutes ago, bstnsportsfan3 said:

    This is like the hot chick you have been trying to get with for years, who kept denying you, finally wants you once you have a bit of $$$. I am staying away from this idea. Denton has never supported NT. 

    I definitely don't think we should outright spurn Denton if they want to try and partner up on something like this.  That's a quick way to keep them on the outside, which we don't really want to do.
    I just don't think they wield the kind of power they once did anymore.    Back in the RV days, if the city came to us with this type of proposal, we'd be dumb not to move on it.    But now, things are a little different and Smatresk has NT moving in our own direction with purpose.   So if Denton wants to join in, I'm sure we can make something work, but NT really has the power play here.

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  8. Would you prefer we focus all of our resources towards basketball now?

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    12 hours ago, GMG_Dallas said:

    My bad. Misread that last part of your question. Didn't see you set TCU/UCF as the goal. Hard to compare since both TCU and UCF ended up going P5. I'm going off the premise we're not going to the Big 12 in 5 years. I'm looking at Boise State as the best a G5 football program can reach without moving up in conference. An incredible 20 years. One of the best in college football yet outside of a few seasons in the late 2000s, no seat at the table because they're still G5.

    Look at March Madness bracketologists in recent years. Gonzaga and Houston were not considered mid-majors despite conference affiliation. THAT is getting a seat at the big boy table.

    That said, to answer your question I'd take either one. Had this question been posed 5 years ago with Fine at QB my answer would be different. Right now, basketball is our strength. Ride the wave!

    I think the difference between us and Boise St. is location.   
    Again, I think UNT and UCF are very, very similar.  The only difference is that UCF doesn't have an existing P5 private school, and a P5-thirsty private school with money to blow within a 40 mile radius.   Otherwise, both are large "directional" schools in large metro areas in football-talented hotbeds.   Boise St. is none of those things, so they were never going to move up anyway.

    The problem for UNT is that UCF got serious about football in 2004, hiring George O'Leary.  Meanwhile, UNT's leadership decided they were not going to pay a real football coach, and hired Todd Dodge, then Dan McCarney.    So, by the time President Smatresk arrived in 2014, and UNT finally got serious, we were already 10 years behind UCF's climb.

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  9. Would you prefer we focus all of our resources towards basketball now?

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    54 minutes ago, GMG_Dallas said:

    Basketball. A final 4 run amongst the top programs while beating several of the biggest names is much better than a single bowl game between opponents set by a mix of contract requirements and ESPN's viewership needs. One is a postseason tournament with the best players giving their all and the other is a postseason scrimmage that top players sit out of. Not even a question for me.

    Re-read the question.  
    If you still choose FAU over TCU/UCF in that hypothetical, I don’t know what to say.   You’re either really myopic, or you really love basketball. 😂

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  10. Would you prefer we focus all of our resources towards basketball now?

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    18 minutes ago, GMG_Dallas said:

    Would you rather have what Tulane did last year in football knowing they'll likely come crashing back down in a year or two or have what Gonzaga and Houston have experienced in basketball? Would you rather be a fun story for 1 year or 5 plus years?

    But the basketball runs like that are just as susceptible to flops as well.    Think about Steph-led Davidson, George Mason, and more-recently: Loyola-Chicago, St. Peter's, FAU...  Now, let's re-imagine your same exact question:
    "Would you rather have what FAU did a month ago in basketball knowing they'll likely come crashing back down in a year or two, or have what UCF and TCU have experienced in football?"

     

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  11. Would you prefer we focus all of our resources towards basketball now?

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    10 hours ago, GMG_Dallas said:

    Did UCF earn a big boy seat or did they have a few excellent seasons 4-6 years ago and seep back into irrelevance? If they weren't going to the Big 12 would anybody really say they earned a big boy seat or would they just be a G5 program that had a few excellent seasons that one time?

    I'm confused.   

    The bolded above is the "earning a seat" part I'm referring to.   They did so with their awesome run (starting from the O'Leary days) culminating in a "National Championship".   Littrell started up a run for us that stalled.   Hopefully Morris can get us back on track (9-win seasons), and then elevate us even higher.  If we can sustain that, and punch through once, we'll have opportunities to earn that same seat.

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  12. Would you prefer we focus all of our resources towards basketball now?

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    2 hours ago, GMG_Dallas said:

    TCU went to the Big 12. Cincy and UCF are joining them. Northern Illinois did it but hasn't done much since. Our football forecast should we make a NY6 bowl would be much more in-line with NIU's trajectory post NY6 bowl than the other 3 unless we make it to a P5 conference. You can be a power in basketball regardless of conference affiliation. Gonzaga comes to mind but Wichita State was incredible for several years recently and has a rich history, the A10 is basketball rich with VCU, Dayton, and there's others.

    I love football. I don't want us to get rid of football. We can have a greater national impact by giving more to basketball. We're in Texas and football is king. Tell that to UH, who yes, had great years in football but they're known for their basketball. Somebody said we'd be more like UTA than Marquette or other BE schools. My answer is no, we would not. We're the flagship. UT Arlington is not. We're not the same.

    Going back to your comparisons (Cincy, UCF, TCU, NIU) TCU remained relevant longterm by going to the BIG 12, NIU has been irrelevant, and Cincy + UCF are to be determined but will likely be somewhat relevant due to conference affiliation. Long-term relevance is not common amongst G5 football programs. It absolutely can happen for mid-major basketball programs.

    I really feel, based on University size, metro locations, & directional names, that UNT & UCF are much the same.   NT can do what UCF did (earn a big boy seat).  It just takes time.

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  13. Would you prefer we focus all of our resources towards basketball now?

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    18 minutes ago, meangreen10 said:

    If you’re insinuating that I, like most, were feeling great about the direction of the FB program, my answer hell yes. Those were great times. Now, as far as it gaining national attention with a NYE bowl or anything like that, no. College football has its blue bloods and powerhouses (Joel Klatt preaches this well) and it is rare if ever broken. You get exceptions like Cincy two years ago but, come on. Making a March madness run is just so much more realistic. 

    Cincy isn't the only outlier though.    UCF did it.  TCU did it in the MWC.   Heck, Northern Illinois did it.  We can too, and it would HUGE if/when we do. 

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  14. Would you prefer we focus all of our resources towards basketball now?

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    1 hour ago, meangreen10 said:

    100% correct. The Frisco bowl or whatever it’s equivalent is not going to move any needles. Granted, we live in a state where football is KING, so no, all the resources are impossible to move but more attention is needed on BB. The guys on here responding with a HARD no are still stuck on the idea that the football team is capable of being remarkably successful (i.e the CFP). It won’t happen and you’re better off letting that go. Sorry but let’s be realistic.

    Not going to go digging back in time, but I bet you, along with most others, were singing a much different tune after the 2018 Football season (that ended with the Littrell extension after flirting with KSSt, and we were all VERY EXCITED about that, don't revise history... plus Mason Fine returning for his Senior season) VERSUS the 2018-19 Basketball season (that saw us lose 8 of our last 9 games, Smart graduating, and Woolridge transferring to Gonzaga).

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  21. no plans, but potential interest

    in Mean Green Basketball

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    You know the kind of "gift horse" your wife gives you when you wanted a new UNT Mean Green polo, but instead you got a pastel-green colored polo?  ...And it just so happens we have Easter coming up and she wants you to wear that polo in the family pictures this weekend?  This "gift horse" is kinda like that.   

    Who is the "gift" really for?

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  23. Assistants?

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    7 minutes ago, 97and03 said:

    Explain please. Even if a passionate alumnus?

     

    I'm not necessarily against the right HS coach as an assistant.    But "passionate alumnus" should not have any sort of factor in hiring a coach.  At all.

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