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LOL Howell will win the Heisman and will go number one overall. He is the best QB in college football.

Cut his PT and made him play when he was injured. That could work!! I just dont want Torrey being the every down back, its counter productive, especially in short yardage situations.

Arkansas is not a football powerhouse, nor did Aune face competition like Ruder did for a job. I thank Aune for what he did last year, but he is no longer needed.

He is the first real Dual Threat QB we have had in a Litrell Regime. I dont understand why so many people carry water for Aune. He was incredibly average and only scored when it didnt matter and we were getting blown out..

The only reason he is here is because he couldnt beat out Sam Howell, so its just as much a conversation as Buechelle not beating out Ehlinger and thats why he went to SMU. Apparently he is already ahead of Aune if hes taking first team reps right now. If a 30 year old QB is the best we can do, then we have bigger problems then what is seen on paper.

I think its more embarrassing to lose your job to Ehlinger than to lose it to Sam Howell. If a 30 year old QB is our guy of the present and future then I really should stop watching UNT football. At that point its just downright embarrassing that the best we can do is a 33 year old guy. Heck if Aune keeps it up he may join the work force at 40. We will never know because one dude lost his job to a Heisman Trophy Winner that will go number one overall, while the other lost his job to a bum sixth round pick and transferred to SMU. Ruder deserves to start the first game, we already know what grandpa can do.

4th and 1 and the game is on the line do you hand it to Torrey or Ataway? You darn well know Torey is an undersized back who wont move the piles in a stacked box, he has proven that over and over again. Sure he can get a couple big gainers off a few draws, but that doesn't make him great. He is more valuable as a receiver than a runner. He is not nor has he been a better runner or finisher than Ataway. Ataway is a guy who is skilled enough to play on Sundays, Torrey may be skilled enough to kick the tires around in the CFL. Litrell has undermined himself time and time again, like the way he treated Bussey for example. Torey is a great 3rd down back, but hes not an every down back like Oscar.

Go ahead and down vote me! I could care less! The truth does hurt! Heck two of the guys on the depth chart under Torey are better than him! I am a realist not a homer. When its 4th and 1 and the game is on the line do you give it to Torey or Oscar Ataway? My point exactly!

Seth has to know playing Torrey isnt the smartest of moves, I can name two guys lower on the depth chart than Torrey who are better than him, and its not even close.

LOL Ruder was 4 for 5 for 80 yards and a TD in his only action at North Carolina which came against Georgia Tech. Its not his fault Sam Howell came to NC, and who gives a rats behind what Berglund thinks or believes, its straight from 247 sports, he was the 15th ranked dual threat Qb out of HS, and was at scouting events with Justin Fields all the dang time. I get it that you like and enjoy average qb play from a former baseball player in a bad division, but you clearly don't get it. Aune was only played because Bean was so bad. If Ruder wasnt starting it would probably be Drummond fighting for the starting spot with Aune. Aune is an after thought. If he starts over Ruder its more of a failure on Litrell than anything else. I equate this to starting Torrey over Ataway. I get that Torrey is the veteran player, but he clearly isnt better than Ataway and he clearly wasnt better than Siggers, and thats why he transferred. This is very much a Buechele argument. How do you know Ruder wouldnt have thrown 30 or more TDS if Howell didnt show up? To think Ruder wouldnt dominate conference USA is utterly preposterous. Ruder will bring RPO in a way that the mean green has never had it. He can literally run and pass. He isnt like Bean Or Aune. Where Bean can run, but cant throw, and Aune who can pass but not run. Ruder can do it all. And Buechelle losing his job to Ehlinger is heck of a lot worst than Ruder losing to Howell.

Lets face the truth here! Littrells undying love for Deandre Torrey is why better running backs are leaving this team. Deandre wasnt the best RB on the team when Siggers was here, and he isnt the best Rb this year either. He has no ability to get YAC after first contact, and outside of bubble screens and a few draws he is far from impressive. If Ataway doesnt start getting some carries, he will be the next to leave.

Just so you are aware the kind of company and people Ruder was attracting when coming out of HS.

Hes a QB from Kentucky that lost his job to a nobody, and looks like he isnt making any impact here either. Gilmore is who I think you are talking about.

I'm more worried about a team like Texas or Texas Tech luring him away with money. Anyone who believes Aune is better than Ruder truly need to take their meds. Ruder was the 15th ranked dual threat qb coming out of HS. Much like Texas Tech under Kingsbury, Litrells offense is good enough to get QBS and Receivers real looks in the NFL. Darden, Bussey, Guyton, Jeff Wilson Jr, Mason in the CFL. All Ruder has to do is dominate in CUSA and he gets drafted no later than the 4th round like Morgan did a couple years back. Ruder coming to UNT is a win win for us!

You are talking about Conference USA here! Where everyone has crap QB play. I am glad you love that our Qb is one of the least craptastic guys in the conference, but he is also 30 years old. He was never the answer. Aune was a fill in because Bean was a failure. Nothing more and nothing less. If you thought Aune was good last year, JC imagine what Ruder could do in Conference USA! He could set passing records! Conference USA are a bunch of chumps compared to what he has seen in live action. Again, he lost his Job to Sam Howell! You know the Sam Howell who is going to be the first pick in the draft next year? You act as if Ruder lost his job to some trash player in some trash conference. Choosing to start Aune over Ruder, would be like choosing to start Aune over Buechelle. Ruder out of HS was the 15th ranked dual threat QB in the nation. The dude will ball here. We should be thanking God that Ruder chose us over someone else.

I really like Torrey, but he takes too many snaps away from Ataway. Ataway is a game changer in there, and should be used as such. He can run through you, and around you. Torrey is usually down after contact. I would move him to the slot and use him more as a receiver than an every down back. Its time Ataway gets the bulk of the carries. Litrell relies too much on veteran rbs even if there is more talented guys on the team who are underclassmen. Keep screwing around and guys like Ataway will leave.

Did Gilmore lose his job to a Heisman Trophy candidate the way Ruder did the last two seasons at NC? Its not like Ruder played bad when he was given game time. He lead NC on scoring drives. If Gilmore lost his job to someone like Sam Howell then we can talk. Ruder is not Gilmore, he is a P5 talent who sees a shot to succeed in Denton. Not starting him would be beyond stupid. Aune is ok, but nothing great.

Aune was never the answer at QB, I know we like him for what he was, but he is nothing but a temporary replacement till we found Masons successor. Ruder is a P5 talent that we landed, he didnt come here to be Aune's backup. Its obvious he is getting the first team reps for a reason. If Aune is the starting Qb going into this season then we are boned.

I truly believe Ruder and Adaway are going to go off this year. I believe in my heart of hearts that Ruder will do for us what Buechelle did for SMU. The only thing we need to hope for is that he doesnt do so well a P5 will lure him to transfer.

Ruder could have played a lot of places, he didnt come to UNT to backup Aune, I promise you that.

I think Ruder starts over Aune for the following reasons. 1) He was a highly sought after transfer 2) He lost his job to the Heisman Award Candidate in Sam Howell, no shame in losing to that guy. 3) When he did play in games at NC he did exceptionally well. 4) Aune was never the answer, and was a filler till we found a guy to replace Mason 5) Ruder gives us the best chance to win games and put points on the board. He should absolutely dominate this division the way Buechelle did for SMUTU.