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Not picking and choosing. Iowa St. and Kansas are currently tied for last place.

The SEC might win every one of those games, but I think they'd all be good games. Thus my stance that the SEC isn't "way more stout" than the Big 12 (or the Pac 12). If I'm being honest, I think 5 evenly matched games like the ones you listed would probably result in a 2-3 record for one conference and a 3-2 record for the other. None of the games should be blowouts barring unlikely circumstances. Also, Georgia vs. W. Va. is hardly a gimme for the SEC. Kind of hard to compare "middle of the pack" since the SEC has so many more teams, but are you really confident that Vandy would easily handle Kansas or Iowa St.? I might give you Kansas because they're pretty weak, but I'll take Iowa St. over Vandy.

Not sure what Miss. St. not starting the season as a top team has to do with it. And I don't think I'd say the SEC West is "way more stout" than the Big 12. Auburn was lucky to beat K. St. on a night when K.St didn't play well. OU is currently 5th place in the conference and they should have beaten K.St. on a night when they didn't play great (and missed a 19 yd field goal that would have won the game). In addition, OU beat Tennessee worse than any SEC school besides Ole Miss. Give me the top 5 teams from each conference and I'll take my chances that the Big 12 doesn't embarrass itself...which would surely be the case if the SEC was way more stout than the Big 12.

Fixed it for ya.

Strength of schedule must not be THAT important. All of the undefeated teams are ranked ahead of the 1 loss teams, all 1 loss ahead of 2 loss, etc. East Carolina and Duke are the only exceptions to this. To me there are several 1 loss teams that have played a much more difficult schedule than Fla. St., but they aren't ranked ahead of them. This tells me that wins are more important than SOS. These team are obviously down the rankings, but I'm way more impressed with 2 loss teams, OU, LSU, and K.St. than I am with 1 loss Ohio St. Check out that Ohio St. schedule and make a list of schools who'd be undefeated playing that gauntlet. I'm thinking the top 5-6 Big 12 teams, 6-7 SEC teams, and 5-6 Pac 12 teams could easily be undefeated playing that weak schedule.

Coffee and TV, I wholeheartedly agree with your assessment of the SEC. And wait until bowl season when they play a couple of ACC teams, a couple of AAC teams, a couple of Big Ten teams. They'll have a great record because they play those conferences while the Big 12 and Pac 12 play each other 3-4 times. Look up the bowl schedule from last year and you'll see what I'm talking about. I'm not sold on the whole strength of schedule thing based on Florida St. Nothing about their schedule is all that great. Barely beat the 6th best team in the Big 12. And I understand that you probably can't look at how a team won or lost a game, but K-St. played a terrible game and still nearly beat Auburn. I bet it's the worst game K-St. has played all season. And then OU plays a bad game and still nearly beats K-St. This would all seem to indicate that I think the Big 12 is the best conference, but that's not true. I think the SEC is probably the best, but it's not like the media (and most fans who listen to the media) would have you believe. I honestly don't think the gap between the SEC, Big 12, and Pac 12 is that great.

Unfortunately this wouldn't surprise me at all.

That's what I thought too, but he got 2 carries against S. Miss.

I think I might know the answer to this question.

All of remaining games are winnable...and losable. We'll see if we keep playing hard or if we pack it in.

And this years QB's? While those numbers aren't great, I bet they are significantly better than this year.

Not a DT fan, but if you don't think we'd be a better team with him at QB then I'm not sure what you're watching. He wasn't great, but he was a heck of lot better than anything we're putting behind center this year. Did you see the Indiana game? The '85 Bears defense wouldn't have helped us win. Pretty much the same against UAB. The defense can't defend against a Pick 6 or a very short field.

Appreciate the comments owl40. It seems as though the opposition sees the same thing as many UNT fans. I pretty much agree with your entire post. Take away the first couple of minutes of the 2nd half and today would have been a different game. Only problem for us is that it's becoming a common theme to give up points in bunches off of turnovers. Our defense has been far from great, but fumbling a kickoff and then giving up a pick six is tough on any D.

Here is the answer you seek. I'd include DT to the list not because he was great, but very good and a significant upgrade to anything we can roll out there. I was honestly never a big DT fan, but I don't think were 2-6 if he were the QB this year.

Agree 100%. Why have we wasted their freshman years? What have they gotten, 10 carries each the whole year?

We have a winner!

You, my friend, are a wise man

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Then I guess the QB's that were given the starting job ahead of him should have produced and he would kept his rightful place on the bench. I'm no McNulty fan, but it's ridiculous to say he was given the job because of his relationship to the coach. He was 3rd string and neither guy ahead of him was able to keep the job. I'm betting if he has a game like Dajon did against either Indiana or UAB he will be replaced. The Fake Lonnie Finch is spot on: the coaches are sabotaging themselves so that McNulty can play QB? WOW!

I think if he were playing favorites McNulty would have been the starter since the UT game. Be honest, Greer and Williams were given a fair shot and they didn't take advantage of the opportunity. One of my favorites: Player: If you'll give me a chance I'll show you what I can do. Coach: If you show me what you can do I'll give you a chance.

But could RL Turner???

Yeah, I almost put that in my reply. Honestly didn't think about it with my initial post, but I got what you meant At least with Dodge it was due to injury instead of just not having a QB. We basically have (3) 3rd string QB's though I would argue that DW has the potential to be much more than that. McNulty and Greer...not so much.

Sad, but true. We looked like a middle school team that didn't realize the fake punt was an option against us.

Agreed!! Did anyone catch the Dan Mullen interview last weekend? Very appropriate for UNT. Everyone at Miss. St. was saying they needed to win to get fans to the game, but he said it was the opposite. He held the theory that if the fans would come and support the team, give home field advantage, etc., that the wins would come. Could be coincidence, but he seems prophetic.

I wasn't saying we won't win again, but it's a distinct possibility. I left the game yesterday thinking, "We're just not very good." A hard realization for me, but the truth.