[We lost Oscar ​😭]

4 hours ago, Shark84 said:

No surprise. He went through the Senior day ceremonies. Good player but don't think he is a P5 number one running back. Great backup at that level. 

I thought he was pre-injury, but not sure about post-injury.

Loved watching him play.

[If you could make the call - For the Spring]

If I entered the portal,  I’d expect to lose the scholarship from my current school.  
 

“Hey honey, I’m leaving you for another woman, but I’m gonna go ahead and keep living here until she’s ready for me to move in.”

[Graduation Requirements]

6 hours ago, El Paso Eagle said:

How are players coming to a school and graduating in one year? I thought there were a minimum number of hours required at a university to graduate from that university?

I think a lot of it has to do with high school kids entering college as a sophomore or sometimes even a junior.  Lots of dual credit classes etc.  My friends daughter had her associates degree before she graduated high school.

[North Texas Portal Entry Thread]

22 minutes ago, Censored by Laurie said:

What other job and/or field of study makes you wait to pursue displaying your talent? 

Most of them.  I had to have a degree before I could get a job in my profession.

[The NT Purge of 2023]

1 hour ago, Okiefan said:

Isn't this what the Mean Green Forum wanted.? The current roster didn't meet your expectations. We are up to 17 in the portal +19 seniors. I had predicted 50 new scholarship players for fall camp. The big challenge now is getting enough in school in the next few weeks to have an effective spring. It’s not as easy as it sounds, especially with limited grad level classes.  

The quality of football is sure to suffer because of the portal for a variety of reasons.  You just listed one I hadn’t thought about.

[North Texas Portal Entry Thread]

2 hours ago, Graddean said:

Before we start jumping off bridges, we need to check the portal.  According to 247, over 500 players entered the portal today.  

This.

Oklahoma and Ohio St. lost their starting QB’s to the portal.  That’s two of the premier positions in all of college football.  Sadly, it’s just the way it is now.

[Playoff bracket predictions?]

20 minutes ago, GreenN'walinsVet said:

Funny thing is, im convinced that if Georgia would have won, FSU would have gotten in.  Once Bama beat Georgia they had to take Texas and they couldn't leave out Bama.  

I don’t think there’s any doubt that’s true.  As long as there is an SEC team, the games can be played.

[Playoff bracket predictions?]

2 hours ago, rcade said:

I was at the FSU/North Alabama game when Travis' leg broke. I figured the national championship dream was over, but I thought it would be because of a loss. Mike Norvell is a hell of a coach to get them to 13-0.

Spending so much time in Tallahassee has me biased, but Florida State got robbed. The committee kept them out because of how their third-string quarterback played, even though he would not have played a down in one month in the playoffs. Teams have won the natty with backup quarterbacks but now that's viewed as impossible? Norvell would've had a month to prepare Rodemaker.

The undefeated champion of a P5 conference has always gotten in the playoff. FSU won all their games and their defense played out of their minds after Travis went down. Louisville came in humming on offense with three 30-plus point games. FSU held them to 6.

The standard for the playoff should have been about wins and losses, not about a perception of who is going to play better in a month. People keep using TCU as the reason FSU should've been excluded, but TCU showed it belonged by beating Michigan.

It's weird that the ACC is being talked about like the G5 even though it has three national championships the past decade. Will the ACC be the next to die after the PAC-12 as ESPN and the other football powers try to form the Premier League of college football?

Well said.

The ACC is being treated as G5 even though they had a winning record vs the SEC this year.  It wouldn't surprise me to see that trend continue in bowl season.

Here's an opinion that most may not agree with:  Alabama winning and/or FSU losing doesn't justify the decision to leave FSU out.  I feel like Ohio St., Georgia, and Oregon could possibly win the playoff if they were in it.  My point being that on any given day, there are about 8-10 teams that could each beat one another.

[North Texas Portal Entry Thread]

Seems like the portal will devalue coaches, not from an X's and O's standpoint, but from an intangibles standpoint.  It would seem impossible to establish any type of culture when you have so many new players every year. 

[Playoff bracket predictions?]

42 minutes ago, GMG_Dallas said:

Then why aren't you arguing that Liberty should be in? I've brought them up in this thread yet nobody has picked their side. Everybody wants to defend the big P5 but nobody is fighting for the 13-0 G5 champion.

I think the issue is more so that FSU was ranked #4 prior to the conference championship games and, despite winning, they were bypassed by the teams ranked #7 and #8.  

Plus, and I’ve already addressed this, Liberty is not the normal undefeated G5.  Honestly, they may be overranked at #18.  Nobody is a bigger proponent of G5’s being given an opportunity to prove themselves more than me, but Liberty just doesn’t have the resume to be able to defend them.  You know as well as I do that they were lucky to get the NY6 invite.

[AAC Bowl Watch]

8 minutes ago, VideoEagle said:

Not even in New York. It’s a second rate bowl in a baseball stadium in Boston. 

Hahaha.  I didn’t catch that.  @wardly You’re gonna end up like Kramer:  waking up in the Hudson River…in a sack🤣🤣. I’m sure those New Yorkers wouldn’t be happy with you saying Fenway was in NY.

[Playoff bracket predictions?]

The mighty SEC vs the other P5’s during the regular season.

Big 12:  1-2

Pac 12: 2-1

ACC: 4-6

Big 10: no games

The biggest eye opener to me is that the SEC plays very few non-conference games against other P5’s.  Each team plays about 1 P5, the rest are G5 and below.

[Does/Should Liberty change G5 OOC Scheduling?]

Liberty is no where near the top G5’s of years past (Boise, UCF, Cincy, Tulane).  Oregon may beat them by 50 and the conspiracy theorist in me says this is an intentional matchup to show that the G5’s don’t belong.  SMU wouldn’t beat Oregon, but I think they could keep it reasonable.

[Breaking: North Texas lands Commitment from Cedar Hill DE]

Love it!!!

[DCTF's Final Texas FBS Power Ranking**]

SMU needs to be replaced with aTm because they lost their starting QB last week and, well, aTm is in the SEC.😜

[Playoff bracket predictions?]

48 minutes ago, GMG_Dallas said:

If you let FSU in then why not Liberty? FSU's strength of schedule was 55th in the country. Alabama's was 5th. This isn't any worst than leaving out an undefeated UCF in 2018. People are only upset here because FSU is a big "P5" program and because Alabama is hated.

I ask again, if strength of schedule doesn't matter and you just want undefeated, why not Liberty? The committee members are frauds! Why not Liberty????

I completely agree about UCF getting screwed in 2018.  I thought it was bad then and I still think it’s bad. 
 

The difference is that Oklahoma, Clemson and Alabama all had a loss, and Georgia had two losses.  Undefeated UCF was still left out.  That’s much, much different than what happened this year.

I get the point you’re making about Liberty, but their schedule was worse than weak and they don’t have a single quality win.  In this case, that’s like comparing 3A ball to 6A.

By the way, I dislike FSU more than I dislike Alabama.

[Playoff bracket predictions?]

5 minutes ago, greenminer said:

It's not just an opinion ("I like the color blue").  It's a view, based on observable evidence (watching games) and available statistics.  Not much different than the scientific method.

I don't like the current system either, but this is a weird road your taking.

Anything that is not a fact is an opinion regardless of what it’s based on.  

Not sure what’s weird about stating that FSU did everything they could on the field to earn a spot in the playoff.  I know the real reason they aren’t in the playoff is politics, but my discussion is based on the premise that they didn’t get in because people “think” Alabama is better.  As I said in an earlier post, just scrap the playoffs and go back to the AP voters choosing the National Champion.  I mean, they would have all of this “observable evidence” to make to be certain they got it right.

[Playoff bracket predictions?]

18 minutes ago, GMG_Dallas said:

If you can't see how those are different, I can't help you.

I can see that you and the committee use it form the OPINION that Alabama is better than FSU instead of using results on the field.  Look, I’m sorry the mighty SEC shouldn’t have a team in the playoff, but that’s just the way it worked out this year.  Hypothetical (and I know how you’re going to answer this) what if Jordan Travis hadn’t gotten hurt and the FSU offense performed similarly the final two games?  

12 minutes ago, CMJ said:

They still defeated a ranked team by double digits.

Thank you.

I can’t believe I’m defending FSU.  They are bottom 10, maybe even bottom 5 on my least favorite team list.

 

[Playoff bracket predictions?]

3 hours ago, GMG_Dallas said:

Against a 5-7 Florida and a Louisville squad that lost to 7-5 Kentucky and 3-9 Pitt.

 

2 hours ago, GMG_Dallas said:

Rivalry games are always weird. 

You use FSU barely winning a rivalry game against them, but you excuse Alabama having to win with a Hail Mary on 4th and 30 because it’s a rivalry game.  You must be on the playoff committee 🤣😉

[Playoff bracket predictions?]

31 minutes ago, GMG_Dallas said:

Against a 5-7 Florida and a Louisville squad that lost to 7-5 Kentucky and 3-9 Pitt.

What can you tell me about that Auburn juggernaut that Alabama beat in miraculous fashion last week.

All I know about them is that they beat Cal (yes, the Cal that most on this board say is terrible) by 4 points.  And that was with Cal getting absolutely screwed on a scoop and score TD.

[Playoff bracket predictions?]

11 minutes ago, GMG_Dallas said:

They're supposed to put in the 4 best teams, not the 4 most deserving.

So you’re advocating basing it on opinion rather than on field results?  Seems ridiculous to me, but I guess the committee agrees.

[Playoff bracket predictions?]

Just now, Mean Green 93-98 said:

It varies from year to year.  I would think that over the past 15 years, the SEC has easily been the best conference, at least at the top.  I've heard the pundits generally say the PAC 12 is the best this year.

I agree that it varies from year to year and I don’t dispute that the SEC has generally been the best over the past 15 years.  I just get beat down by all the people who act like the SEC is so far and above all the other conferences.  

[Playoff bracket predictions?]

SEC being the best conference is another opinion.  I doubt I’ll do the research to disprove it, but if you look at head to head competition against other conferences, the SEC doesn’t dominate.  But since when does head to head competition matter?

[Playoff bracket predictions?]

19 minutes ago, DentonLurker said:

Sure it is. The best 4 teams should be in the playoffs. I believe they are. That said, I’m really glad they’re expanding the playoffs next year.

Your opinion of who’s the best is doesn’t mean they’re the best.

Edit:  Your=anyone (especially the playoff committee) not@DentonLurker

[CUSA/Liberty to a NY6 Bowl Game?]

11 minutes ago, TheColonyEagle said:

The logic they used to put Bama in over FSU didn’t apply to SMU/Liberty 

Or did it???  SMU is also without their starting QB.

The takeaway is this:  Don’t lose your starting QB late in the season.  (Even if you prove you can win without him).  The committee will “ think,” and that’s when the problems start.