[Noland To The Portal]

17 minutes ago, UNTLifer said:

None of these have been reported by the school or the player, yet.  The response I got to bringing this up was that this usually occurs when the players may be testing the waters but would be welcome back.  Guess I am showing my age, but if I were the coach, once you decide to enter the portal you are done here.  Another poster messaged me with the same feeling.  Zero commitment today.  All about what I can get for me, period.

This is the AAU basketball/Select baseball mentality manifesting itself.  It was sure to happen eventually.  

[Calipari to Arkansas?]

16 minutes ago, UNTLifer said:

I was trying to beat those that think we lose a coach with every opening that pops up.

That’s what I thought.  I wasn’t sure if you meant to put Hodges, but since you did I thought it was funny to misuse his first name as well.

[Noland To The Portal]

1 minute ago, Big Z said:

Looks like no one wants to play for Hodge? 

Doubt that has much, if anything, to do with it.  This is simply college football and basketball in 2024.

[Calipari to Arkansas?]

33 minutes ago, UNTLifer said:

If he goes, expect Kentucky  to come after Hodges

I’m confident Russ Hodges will not go to UK.🤣

[John Calipari to Arkansas]

46 minutes ago, MeanGreenZen said:

Arkansas is a much better basketball job than USC.

USC has never won a national championship and has only been to the Final Four twice. 

Arkansas won the national title in 1994 and has six Final Fours. 

Plus, Arkansas fans care about basketball. Nobody cares about USC basketball.

 

Historically, no doubt Arkansas is a much better job, but past 15-20 years…it’s much more debatable.  
 

Fan support is not debatable.  Not even close.

[John Calipari to Arkansas]

USC—>SMU

Arkansas—>USC

Kentucky—>Arkansas

Is it just me or are all of these a little weird?  They all seem like a downgrade as far as basketball jobs go, though I guess you could argue Arkansas to USC is lateral.

[7v7: who played on Saturday?]

Some of those dudes look like the could still play and some of them look like…me🤣😩

[Stone Earle deserves to be the starter]

He deserves to be the starter if he beats out Chandler Morris.  

[2024 NCAA Final Four]

12 minutes ago, CMJ said:

Credit to Alabama - they gave Connecticut a great game (the final score isn't really representative).  Purdue was actually more impressive yesterday.  I still thank UCONN is the favorite tomorrow, but I give the Boilers a decent shot now.

I’m pretty anti-Alabama in any sport, but I have to admit, they were a fun team to watch.  

[BREAKING: John Buggs III enters the portal]

5 hours ago, NorthTexasWeLove said:

Hmmm... not really. We are moving players upward as teams take from us upward. In this hypothetical scenario of buying out players, a JUCO can't dictate a buyout fee to us as much as we can dictate a buyout fee to SEC, Big12/10, etc. There is more risk for us taking the player out of JUCO/D2 than Kansas State taking a player from us. It would be a net gain for us and easily one. 

We had players transfer in from Ole Miss, OU, TCU, and UTSA.  

Players transfer in all different directions, but for different reasons.  There are only so many roster spots available, so “the big boys” can’t be the only ones taking players.  Are they taking our good players and we’re taking lesser players from them?  Sure, but I think most of us were happy with the play we got from our transfers from the schools I mentioned above.  
 

I’m not defending the portal because I absolutely hate it, but to act like it’s a one way street of robbery is disingenuous.  The portal gives and takes…for all teams, not just NT.

[BREAKING: John Buggs III enters the portal]

2 hours ago, MeanGreenZen said:

But under a different system there may be a way to compensate schools like North Texas for those players and help North Texas find new players to replace them. 

We’d also have to compensate schools for players that transfer TO North Texas?  It’s a wash.

Schools are no more “stealing” players from us than we are from them.  It’s not robbery, it’s musical chairs.  

[BREAKING: John Buggs III enters the portal]

This guy is the poster child of the portal era: UMass—>Hill College—>nUTSAk—>UNT—>???
 

 

[2024 NCAA Final Four]

4 hours ago, GrandGreen said:

What a final four, many could have picked this lineup before the first game.

Shows you how stale the sport has gotten, and how money almost always dictates the winners.  Basketball is getting as predictable as football despite having about three times the teams. 

NC St, Purdue, and UConn are not the schools I think of when I hear “money almost always dictates the winners.”

[NIT Championship Game]

34 minutes ago, ForneyGreen said:

Steton Hall was a strong team - tonight was their only real challenge through the tournament.

St. Joseph’s would disagree.

[MBB, who is still on the team?]

2 hours ago, southsideguy said:

This just sucks, it will be this way forever now.  We are the farm system for the rich guys.  Maybe the team that picks up the player should pay for the education and expenses at the old school .

everyone else is making money why not the farm system.

I get the sentiment, but this really isn’t true.  Players transfer in all different directions and for many different reasons.  We have a player from OU and a player from Ole Miss, should we be paying them?  It’s a messed up system right now, but it’s not a farm system.

[First proposal at forming a CFB "Super League", with promotions from second-tier of non-Top70, shot down]

[2024 NCAA Final Four]

50 minutes ago, NorthTexasWeLove said:

The easy team to root for is obviously NC State. They are taking the path of their 1983 team led by Jimmy V. My rooring interest is with them. 

The favorite is clearly UCONN. 

Purdue has a punchers chance. 

Alabama: they'll have to hit 30+ combined 3s in Phoenix to cut down nets. They are a 3 ball team, so it's possibly, but unlikely. 

I agree with all of this. 
 

I saw an interview with #14, Casey Morsell, for NC St. after, I believe, their 2nd win in the ACC tournament.  I don’t remember exactly what he said, but it made me think that they weren’t a fluke…and more importantly, they didn’t think they were a fluke.  They knew they were good and they expected to win.

But…

I had them losing to Tech in the 1st round. 

[Doesn't even look like Rogers will start at Cal]

10 minutes ago, MeanGreenTexan said:

Duh!    "Value" is in the eye of the cash holder.   

If a bunch of wealthy alumni/donors want a dude on their team, they offer him a NIL deal of $X (whatever that number is they want to spend), and then get him to sign a basketball for each of the donors.  That's pretty much all it takes.

I agree that it’s “Duh”, but it seemed that you and greenminer were justifying the reason they got paid.  I thought you guys were saying that they earned the money.

[Doesn't even look like Rogers will start at Cal]

33 minutes ago, greenminer said:

Community, in-person appearances can be part of the deal, right? And there doesn't have to be media coverage.

 

15 minutes ago, MeanGreenTexan said:

Right.   That and autograph sessions as well.

I’m honestly speaking in ignorance, but I always assumed a big issue with NIL was that the pay wasn’t commensurate to the work being done.  Is there someone “in the know” who could debunk that theory?

[NIL Estimate]

4 hours ago, NT80 said:

…players that spend their entire college career with NT... then continue to support the program after. 

This is possibly the most damning long term consequence of the NIL/Portal era.  As I was watching the NCAA Tournament and seeing former players in the stands it struck me that you won’t see that in a few years.  There are an unlimited number of people you could list, but for example, where does Tylor Perry go, UNT or KSU.  As much as he was liked here, it would seem odd if he were in the stands when we play in the NCAA Tournament next year.😉

[FAU]

College athletics is free agency on steroids.

[Which college football coaches make your Mount Rushmore? Saban is easy … but who else?]

1 hour ago, UNTLifer said:

Bear Bryant

Nick Saban

Eddie Robinson 

Bud Wilkinson/Tom Osborne 

 

1 hour ago, NorthTexasWeLove said:

Bear

Saban

Spurrier 

Osborne 

I could go with either of these.  It’s really Bear and Saban and then argue over the other two spots.

Also, surprised to see no mention of Urban Meyer.  He was elite at both Florida and Ohio St.

[Doesn't even look like Rogers will start at Cal]

4 hours ago, MeanGreenZen said:

Everyone keeps using the job movement of coaches to justify that players can transfer now whenever they want. 
And it is a good point except for one HUGE factor. Coaches have contracts. And most of those contracts have buy-out clauses that compensate the school that the coach is leaving.

So Grant McCasland can sign a new contract with us then bolt for Texas Tech but Tech has to pay us $1.5M (reduced to $750K because Wren Baker is a weak negotiator and included a deescalator in the contract if Wren was no longer employed at UNT). But the point is that YES coaches can leave, but the schools still get compensated a pre-negotiated amount for the value of the coach that the school is losing. 
With players who transfer, the school loses all value they have invested in that player. And they have invested a lot: identifying the player, recruiting the player, training, nutrition, coaching, marketing. The school also has to overcome the loss of goodwill that comes with alumni and season ticket holders who are angry that their favorite running back just transferred to South Carolina.

I also argue that coaching is a career, playing college football is not.  To me that’s a huge difference.

[Christian Moore hits the portal]

We were 8 deep which I have to think is about like most teams.  I don’t understand the “we lacked depth” comments.

*edit to say you could argue we were 9 deep considering Stone filled in lots of minutes when we had injuries.

[USC Basketball Head Coach Andy Enfield Reportedly Leaving for SMU Job]

5 NCAA Tournament appearances in 11 years at USC?  The alleged great recruiting obviously doesn’t pay off.