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9 minutes ago, Andrew said:Yes? Everyone seems to want to make a podcast. The Brune guy just isn’t that great voice wise or that knowledgeable. To be fair I would never put my voice on a podcast either because I don’t have the voice for it as well… it’s difficult to find a really solid sports podcast. I want to say the locked on sports series are the best but then you find a random teams one and the guy is awful. Nick Angstadt brings it all. Isaac Harris his side kick isn’t the best but he seems to be a better writer and works for the Mavs organization so he brings something. Maybe Brune is a better writer. Like Dalton Trigg is a solid writer for SI (mavericks piece) but his podcast is awful. I let him know he should stick to writing only and we still manage to be friends on Facebook and talk back and forth on a few pages. It’s just my opinion…. Idk who would be best to do it.
Have you ever considered that you, the guy who said Benford wasn’t the problem, that Zach Simmons wasn’t going to be good, and who I have to explain to how the NET formula works every year and still doesn’t understand based on a recent post, might be the one who isn’t that knowledgeable?
Brune is solid. He brings basketball analysis, incorporates numbers to back up what he sees, and has good guests. There’s a reason he was hired to do the basketball podcast for Dave Campbell.
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Really good win. That Scott offensive rebound and one really swung the momentum for us when it looked like things could get away from us late.
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1 hour ago, BigWillie said:
I didn't think the margin of victory mattered in NET. I thought it was just the Quad 1-4 thing.
It does.
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On 12/8/2022 at 12:15 PM, Jason Howeth said:
GCU's fanbase is nuts. They sold out every game last season in their 7,000 seat arena, and hosted Louisville in 2015 whose coach, Rick Pitino said,
"This, in college basketball, in my 40-plus years, was the toughest crowd I've ever faced," Pitino said afterward, a message the school has now incorporated into its pregame video montage. "Whether we go to Duke, Kentucky...nothing was as tough as that environment tonight."
They have a Liberty vibe to them. For-profit Christian University owned by a publicly traded parent with about 70,000 online students to go along with over 20,000 on campus.
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5 hours ago, aztecskin said:
yeah and this is where the relationships can sour right?
You try to talk to mr 4-star and catch is like 'nah, that's for VIPs, buddy. You talk to little Johnny 1-star'.
So if you indulge the coach that can be called "relationship-building" and if you reach out to 4-star kid outside of the coach-relationship you get
Coach 18: The biggest mistake you see is they don’t talk to the high school coaches before they offer. … It’s the biggest no-no you can do. It’s a slap in the face, to be honest.
You guys respectively said things alongs the lines of “this is outdated” to have HS recruiting have to go through the HS coaches for introduction in today’s game, and does it really matter what the High School coaches perception of our coaches is if the recruit himself is the one making the decision.
See the quote above. Some (many?) HS coaches still feel that proper etiquette is for college coaches to go through the high school coaches before extending offers to the players at those schools. It is still pretty standard procedure AFTER the college has identified the player that they show up to an offseason workout or spring practice and go through the coaches first, even if they already have messaged the player through social media.
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Just let the man try out then go start his 9-5 in piece
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If anyone was concerned that a tight win against a bad team might hurt our NET, we actually moved up to 67 from 69. Not great but just glad it didn’t hurt us there.
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3 minutes ago, GMG_Dallas said:
Glad we snuck out with that win but holy cow were these refs bad in the second half. UTA shot 14 free throws in the second half. I recall at least 1 over the back foul that resulted in them getting a 3-point play. Thankful Perry works on his FTs. On to the next.
Also a missed goaltending that should’ve been two points for us, a couple extremely ticky tack calls on Ousmane, and Huntsberry getting hacked twice on the arm on drives to the rim that they called clean. I really hate bringing up bad refereeing as an excuse, but the zebras earned it today.
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6 minutes ago, GMG24 said:
Bush league on their part… get your stuff working. Maybe check the stream before ya know GAMETIME
Exactly. Blow these hacks out please
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1 hour ago, greenminer said:
Still wrapping my mind around this. It costs them nothing for us to offer whoever we want to offer, right? Or is this an issue, because for the offer to happen we have to take time and resources out of the coach that he doesn’t want to spend?
dumb questions, but I literally know nothing about how visits and offers work. In my mind I thought you could literally offer a player, say, by letter/notice if you wanted to. In that case, the coach doesn’t get involved at all and doesn’t have to spend time with us.
Us extending offers isn’t the problem. It’s building relationships with the coaches and the players once we’re on the campuses of these powerhouse programs. Many of these schools send kids to P5s every single season. And many of the coaches are truthfully trying to get their kids to sign with the biggest name programs as possible. It makes them look good.
Our coaches do a lot of visiting schools in the spring, when we are starting to really ramp up the recruiting on Juniors. Let’s say we go visit a school in February, when the football players are doing their offseason after school workouts. Our coach visiting will talk with their coach and say “so can I meet with so and so?”
The high school coach can go two directions here. “Yeah, let’s go talk with him!” or “yes but first I want you to meet with these other kid(s).” Very often these DFW coaches will take that second route. When they see North Texas on our shirt, they usually aren’t thinking “oh, that’s where I want my star player going.” They are usually thinking “oh, there’s a lesser school that some of my borderline D1 players could maybe get a scholarship from.”
So when we visit and the HS coaches try and steer us to their borderline D1 kids that we don’t want, and we don’t end up seriously recruiting them, it can sour our reputation there (and has). And on the flip side, when we go in and want to talk to a player we have identified and the coach tries to steer us towards other players while trying to steer that top player away from us towards the bigger name schools recruiting him, it makes us less likely to visit that school.
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10 hours ago, meangreanmick said:
All very fair points.
When I talking to him its usually about true D1 kids. For example, last season they had a running back that ended up in P5 pretty far away but before that happened they tried to get UNT to talk to him - his family doesn’t have alot of money are very close proximity to Denton - those are more of the situations I’m talking about. I think UNTs response was, we are set at RB. But I sat with him and watched that kid as a freshman playing a major role this season - so you would think we could make a spot for that kind of talent.
It may very well have hurt our coaches to pass up that player. We have 4 sophomore scholarship running backs who all get carries when healthy, and two freshmen scholarship running backs as well. We had our 2022 high school RB spot filled back in April 2021, and that seemed to end our RB recruiting for the class as I don’t think any offers were extended after that.
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45 minutes ago, MeanGreenTexan said:
Oh yes. I'm sure Walerius & staff do. That's the problem. We want to get into these schools and talk to their top guys. Walerius & Co most definitely do their homework prior to any campus visits. They know the roster, and who's who... even down in the underclassmen ranks for the future. So when a coach says, "Let's talk less about 4* Kid X, because Sark's visiting next week, and more about Kid Y (who's a 2*, maybe)", that's likely coming from a deep bias of NT's lack of winning. It's something NT has to overcome, but it's not something we should placate these HS coaches for. If they won't let us talk to Kid X for real, and only think we should be looking at Kid Y, we should politely leave.
Exactly. And this has been the experience in DFW for the last two coaching staffs to the point where their reputation from many local coaches is soured by the end of their tenure. May very well happen to the next coach until we really get our perception to change.
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48 minutes ago, NorthTexasWeLove said:
What you are saying is 100% accurate.
Also, what you are saying is 100% dated. Not dated as if it doesn't happen, but dated as in we don't need HS coaches to inform us of their top, mid-grade and low level talent. We should know names, top to bottom, and skillsets before even stepping foot in the school.
I know if not organized properly it can be leg work, but every school in a ___ mile radius of UNT should be dropped in on during every recruiting period/cycle. Even if there is a player of interest or not.
Guyer - Argyle - Ryan - Braswell - LD - Denton High- Sanger/Krum - Aubrey/PP - Rock Hill/Prosper
Go get on a name basis with a couple coaches at those places and show face with some regularity.
We do. Knowing the names of the kids isn’t the issue. Going into the schools and being steered away from the kids we really want and towards the kids we don’t is the issue.
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59 minutes ago, GMG_Dallas said:
Ranked 69*. To note, we're 4-2 for NET rankings as So Nazarene and Paul Quinn don't count. UNC Wilmington are 102 and St Mary's are 17.
UAB has West Virginia and South Carolina coming up and I can see them winning both. Would be great for our conference to have FAU and UAB have high NET rankings headed into conference play. Outside of FIU who's .500, everybody in our conference is above .500 which is really impressive. Here's to hoping we're a multi-bid conference this year!
It updates daily. We were 68 yesterday. But yes, CUSA is strong again in men’s basketball. Definitely has not been the problem of this conference since we joined.
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1 hour ago, meangreanmick said:One of my closest lifelong friends is a long time HS coach in the metroplex, has won state championships at 5a/6a. I can tell you for sure that while that may happen, that hasn’t been the main issue. His comments have been fairly consistent thru the years at the various schools he has been at, and across many of our coaches - “they don’t really spend any time at our school like the other colleges do”’ and “ UNT coaches come in very cocky and don’t give us the time of day”. This is from a coach that has discussed his players with Saban several times.
i don’t know if we just don’t have the resources and funds to cover sufficiently, or our coaches have red headed step child syndrome and think they need to act cocky to the high school coaches or what. Probably both, and we need to get it fixed.
In my scenario I want to emphasize that the main point is there are two sides to these stories, and when there is a large disconnect that’s where we start to divert our attention elsewhere.
I’m sure many HS coaches feel like we are being cocky for not offering their FCS level talent, and they think we’re being too good because their expectations of what caliber players UNT should be recruiting doesn’t align with the caliber players that UNT coaches want from that school. When there is that disconnect, it honestly makes sense for us to not be showing up in those schools as much as others.
On the flip side, if Saban comes into town, every coach in the state is rolling out the red carpet for him and they’re going to try and sell their top players to him, unlike they would with a UNT Coach. I’ve heard these conversations before of HS coaches saying “oh, yeah Baylor/Colorado/etc. already offered him” as a way of telling the G5 coach he’s not worth your time. Meanwhile, we don’t want those type of kids to be off limits. We can and have been signing those type of recruits every year, even if it’s after those offers dry up.
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1 hour ago, MeanGreen13 said:
This is exactly what I think happens. Coaches are entitled as hell and think so little of UNT that they think we should beg for their 2nd tier talent.
To many who didn’t go to UNT, all we are is a school that’s a chance for a kid to get ask FBS scholarship. For the most part, they want to be the coach that got as many kids signed to P5 schools as possible. They know it looks better to say they got a kid signed by TCU or Texas Tech than it does to say they got one signed to North Texas.
And many coaches are in it for the right reasons. I’m not talking about those guys.
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Here’s how this seems to go with UNT coaches recruiting DFW, especially Denton County:
New UNT Coach: “Alright, time to build relationships with these local coaches at these great programs and get top recruits!”
DFW HS Coach: “Hey coach! I want to make sure every player of mine worthwhile goes to a P5 even if it’s their only P5 offer and they’re going to ride the bench there. But hey, will you please offer my FCS/D2 level players?”
New UNT Coach: “Ummm we will consider it.”
DFW HS Coach: “Man, I don’t really like that UNT Coach.”
Mccarney ended up having more success in East Texas and Littrell really pulled some impressive Houston area recruits. Hopefully the new coach can be the one to make it a cool destination for local recruits, but it doesn’t come easily as overrecruited as this area is.
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The NET ranking debut for the 2022-2023 season came out today. We are ranked 68, 3rd in CUSA. FAU at a very impressive 23 and UAB in at 54.
We have some chances for resume boosters coming up in Grand Canyon (104) and UMass (75) both on neutral courts technically.
https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-net-rankings
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Littrell should’ve been fired when Marshall embarrassed us at home and dropped us to 1-5 last season. Or the next week when Liberty dropped us to 1-6. I don’t fault anyone for not wanting to watch a Seth Littrell product since then. ESPECIALLY after the bowl performance when he really had a chance to win everyone’s attention back.
I’ll be there +3, but I am not going to be actively recruiting anyone towards UNT fandom until Littrell is gone. The biggest turn off to casual fans is when they do go and the product sucks. They don’t come back. And that’s what has happened, both with the last bowl game and the SMU home opener.
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25 minutes ago, Green with Envy said:
I love to read into things way more than I should.
Seth hasn’t tweeted anything about the Bowl Game.
I am currently reading more into this than maybe I should
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2nd half today might have been our best half of basketball all season. Excited to see how this team looks against the upcoming opponents. Looked like a glimpse of what this team can do when they play more cohesively and assertively.
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Phil Bennett needs to be gone after this season. 121st defense in the country in yards, 102nd in points and those are only on track to get worse after tonight.
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Opening at -8
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Grand Canyon (12/10/2022)
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Lol saying “ha! You understand numbers and do research!” is not the own you think it is. Well, it is. Just not at the target you intended.