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Actually Denver has played much better competition than NT. The really sad thing is NT was beat 3-0 and out shot by 20 to 3. That is almost the equivalent of NT's football team getting beat 65-0.

From Denver Official Athletic Site Denver now 2-1 in SBC play Women's Soccer Home HEADLINES Denver Knocks Off North Texas, 3-0 Pioneers Fight to 1-1 Draw with Northern Arizona Pioneers Begin Four-Game Homestand RELATED LINKS • CollegeSports.com Wire • Email this to a friend Denver Knocks Off North Texas, 3-0 Billingsley, Brunkhardt and Hemmings all net one Oct. 10, 2004 DENVER - The University of Denver women's soccer team rebounded from a 1-1 tie against Northern Arizona with a 3-0 shut out Sunday afternoon against conference rival North Texas at Pioneer Field. Senior Diana Brunkhardt (Manhattan Beach, Calif.), and freshmen Jenna Billingsley (Littleton, Colo.) and Taryn Hemmings (Greeley, Colo.) each scored goals for the Pioneers. The Pioneers came out focused and determined to get the win at home, scoring two goals within a minute of each other in the first half. The first goal came in the 26th minute when Brunkhardt dished the ball off to Hemmings who drilled it past Mean Green keeper Briana Buchanan from 15 yards out. About a minute later, the Pioneers scored again. Hemming passed the ball to Billingsley in the middle who fired it past Buchanan from the top of the box. Denver's game proved to be too much for the Mean Green to handle. Early in the second half, the Pioneers struck again when Carlynn McCallum got the rebound off Mean Green keeper Buchanan and served it to Brunkhardt who knocked it in. This is the second multi-point game for both Brunkhardt and Hemmings. Hemmings now leads the team in points with eight, while Brunkhardt has seven. Denver outshot North Texas 20-3, with all but two Denver starters taking shots. "We accomplished what we came to do, get a shutout at home," said head coach Jeff Hooker. "We stayed focused and played the whole game. Getting that last goal real quick in the second half really crushed our opponent." The Pioneers improve their record to 4-8-1, 2-1 and return to action at home against Middle Tennessee on Friday, Oct. 15 at 4 p.m. Denver 2 1 -3 NT 0 0-0 Denver: 1. Taryn Hemmings (Diana Brunkhardt ), 2.Jenna Billingsley (Taryn Hemmings), 3. Diana Brunkhardt (Carlynn McCallum) Shots: Denver 9-11-20, NT 4-5-9 Corner Kicks: Denver 2-1-3 NT 1-3-4 Saves: Denver 6 (Wiley 6) NT 5 (Buchanan 5) Fouls: Denver 14, NT 8 Offside: Denver 0, NT 0

Good win, now just beat Denver

Anyone remember that Shaq came from a class AA or AAA Texas School? The lack of competition in HS didn't seem to bother him too much. No I am not comparing Howerton to Shaq, but pointing out that good players come from all types of schools.

Forget the problems related to the new stadium crew, why spend the money. This group is bound to be much more expensive than the past practices. Is it worth the cost when the athletic department needs all the resources it can get. I just cannot believe that this is cost effective or necessary.

Haynes apparently has committed to Boston College. Texas Hoops

NT beats Houston 5-1 Link

Anyone notice that JC recruit White who was a former Mr. Basketball in Alabama is not on the roster. Which I guess is not that big a loss compared to the Lady's who best 2 returning players are no longer on the team. Anyone know the story on why White is not listed?

Having been a season ticket holder and having viewed all of Slinker's teams, I assume you are not directing that comment to me.

I assume the problems you relate don't have anything to do with recruiting and/or coaching.

Not a whole lot of interest shown here, but there are a few fans that apparently can see a positive with the two leading returning scorers both off the team. I fail to see anything good about this. At some point this coaching staff is going to have to produce.

Anyone know why Jamie Armstrong is not listed on the NT basketball roster used in Sun Belt Propectus on official Sun Belt site? Hope it is mistake and she is still on team. bblink

Another factor is perhaps the best new track performers will come from the freshmen football recruits. Stickler has the best discus toss in the state and close to the tops in the nation. Cox and Thomas have had 100 times that are better than any of the track recruits.

Wonder why there is only 1 home non-conference game scheduled before conference play begins? Games against TCU and SMU are both during middle of conference play. Looks like a very poor schedule.

Indiana all-stars Banks' 21 points propel Indiana Kentucky All-Stars commit 30 turnovers in their 13-point loss to the Hoosiers. By Kristen Leigh Porter kristen.leigh.porter@indystar.com June 20, 2004 OWENSBORO, Ky. -- During a shootaround practice Saturday before the Indiana All-Stars' 66-53 win over the Kentucky All-Stars, Janese Banks dribbled a basketball in one hand and held her Walkman in the other. She was listening to R&B artist Usher's latest, "Confessions." "It calmed me down," the former Ben Davis High School standout said. "Going into this game I wasn't nervous, but I just wanted to make sure that I was calm, that I was focused." A focused Banks turned in a game-high 21 points and 11 rebounds in Saturday night's victory. She also had two assists, two blocks and two steals in 29 minutes in the Indiana win. Rebekah Parker (Tippecanoe Valley) contributed 11 points and Miss Basketball Jaclyn Leininger (Warsaw) added eight points. "It is the All-Star game and it's good to have individual performances, but I'm just proud of this team. We played hard together," Banks said. The Indiana All-Stars jumped out to a 7-0 advantage, as Julie DeMuth (Merrillville) started the scoring with a 3-pointer, followed by a basket from Leininger (Warsaw) and a Banks move inside. In the meantime, Kentucky missed its first three shots and had three turnovers, prompting a timeout with 16:28 to play. "I think by getting behind, we weren't able to do some of the things that we wanted to do and take advantage of our size," Kentucky coach Donna Moir said. Indiana held a 30-22 lead at halftime after shooting 24.3 percent from the field, just slightly better than Kentucky's 23.1 percent. Ten of Kentucky's 22 points came on free throws. Kentucky closed to within 36-30 on Anitha Smith-Williams' basket with 15:47 remaining. But a 3-pointer from Gretchen Haehl (Shelbyville) sparked a 10-0 run by Indiana. Kentucky crept within 48-38 on a breakaway layup by Trish Todd but came no closer than seven points the rest of the way. "I think the main thing here tonight was the fact that our kids came out and they were tired of people saying we couldn't beat Kentucky, because this was the best team that Kentucky has put on the floor," Indiana coach Jodie Whitaker said. Indiana held a 51-49 edge on the boards, impressive considering five Kentucky players are listed as 6-foot or taller, including the 6-6 Sarah Elliot. At 6-2, Amber Jackson is Indiana's tallest player. The Brebeuf Jesuit graduate had eight rebounds and four points. "We knew it was going to be a lot of hard work and that was one of our goals, to block out and out-rebound them because that would make the game a lot easier for us," Jackson said. Indiana's defense had 24 steals and forced 30 turnovers. Kentucky Miss Basketball Crystal Kelly, a 6-3 post player, scored seven points and had nine rebounds. Todd was the only Kentucky player in double figures with 12 points. "We focused all week on the defensive end of the floor and how we were going to defend their post," Whitaker said. "I thought we did an outstanding job not only on the inside but our guards did a great job of pressuring the pass into the post." Whitaker said her team's intensity Wednesday night in a close win over the Indiana Junior All-Stars wasn't close to what it was Saturday. "We were focused from the time we left the hotel until we got here until the end of the game," Whitaker said. Indiana will meet Kentucky again at Conseco Fieldhouse on Saturday. Call Star reporter Kristen Leigh Porter at (317) 444-2611. INDIANA Min FG-A FT-A OR-T A F T Pts Leininger 18 2-8 4-4 2-3 0 3 3 8 Banks 29 7-20 7-8 6-11 2 1 1 21 Felke 18 0-2 0-0 0-2 1 1 1 0 Parker 26 4-7 2-4 2-3 3 3 8 11 DeMuth 18 1-7 1-2 1-6 0 4 0 4 Freeman 12 2-4 0-0 1-4 0 3 0 5 Haehl 20 1-6 0-0 2-4 2 2 3 3 Jackson 18 2-6 0-0 4-8 0 1 1 4 Miller 1 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 Kenney 7 0-0 3-4 0-0 0 1 0 3 Frame 8 0-1 1-2 0-0 0 1 1 1 Squire 10 0-7 2-2 0-1 0 1 1 2 Gugliotta 15 1-5 2-2 3-7 4 1 0 4 Team 1-2 1 Totals 20-73 22-28 22-51 12 22 20 66 Three-point shooting: 4-22, (Parker 1-1, Freeman 1-2, Haehl 1-3, DeMuth 1-4, Leininger 0-1, Gugliotta 0-1, Felke 0-2, Banks 0-4, Squire 0-4). Steals: 24 (Haehl 5, DeMuth 4, Leininger 3, Kenney 3, Banks 2, Parker 2, Gugliotta 2, Freeman, Jackson, Squire). Blocked shots: 10 (Banks 2, Felke 2, DeMuth 2, Jackson 2, Kenney, Gugliotta). KENTUCKY Min FG-A FT-A OR-T A F T Pts Kelly 31 2-6 3-4 4-9 1 4 2 7 Barlow 25 1-10 2-2 1-5 3 3 3 4 Bingham 30 4-10 0-2 1-7 0 2 5 8 Stiger 17 2-8 0-0 1-1 2 0 2 4 Todd 28 3-10 5-6 1-5 1 0 5 12 Richmond 4 0-0 2-3 0-0 0 0 0 2 Sellers 11 0-3 0-0 0-0 0 2 0 0 Elliot 9 2-3 2-2 1-2 0 2 3 6 Perry 11 0-4 2-2 0-4 0 3 1 2 McGrath 9 0-0 0-0 0-2 1 2 3 0 S.-Williams 13 3-5 0-0 1-2 0 1 4 6 Chiodi 12 1-1 0-0 0-1 0 1 1 2 Team 6-11 1 Totals 18-60 16-21 16-49 8 20 30 53 Three-point shooting: 1-10 (Todd 1-4, Barlow 0-1, Bingham 0-1, Stiger 0-4). Steals: 12 (Bingham 3, Todd 3, Smith-Williams 2, Kelly, Barlow, Stiger, Perry). Blocked shots: 4 (Kelly 2, Bingham, Perry). Halftime: Indiana 30, Kentucky 22. Officials: Jack Whittemore, Steve Martin, Shannon Feck.

2004 Golden West Invitational June 12, Sacramento, California Event 22 Men Discus Throw ================================================================================= GWI Meet: # 225-02 1987 Kami Keshmiri, Reno (Reno, NV) US National: $ 234-03 2001 Niklas Arrhenius, Mountain View (Orem, UT) Name Year School Finals Points ================================================================================= Finals 1 Zach Lloyd 12 W Pine El NV 64.45m 211-05 60.34m 63.36m 60.11m 63.25m 62.91m 64.45m 2 Brock Stickler 12 Lampasas (Tx) 59.95m 196-08 43.75m 57.79m 56.56m 59.08m FOUL 59.95m 3 Nate Rolfe 12 Inglmr Bl WA 59.76m 196-01 58.51m 59.63m 59.76m FOUL 56.37m 53.68m 4 Chris Rohr 12 Lee's Summit (Mo) 59.69m 195-10 FOUL FOUL 58.30m 59.69m 58.26m FOUL 5 Eddie Cornell 12 Brrghs Rc CA 58.65m 192-05 55.73m FOUL FOUL 55.51m 58.65m 58.17m 6 Matt Wauters 12 Bainbrdge WA 55.71m 182-09 55.67m 55.71m 54.84m 52.96m 53.11m 52.39m 7 Kyle Dvs-Hammerquist 12 Webb Clrm CA 54.54m 178-11 FOUL 45.61m 54.54m 53.87m 53.31m 53.52m 8 Jessie Williams Cabot (Camden, Ar) 54.33m 178-03 52.58m FOUL 54.27m 53.40m FOUL 54.33m

Quincy Williams is scheduled to play for Oklahoma team in Oil Bowl basketball game tonight Oklahoma pits stars vs Texas shooters Trey Reed, Times Record News The 2004 edition of the boy’s Oil Bowl Classic will pit the star power of Oklahoma’s A.J. Hawkins and Quincy Williams against Texas’ pure shooters and it has all the makings a high-scoring shootout. Tipoff is slated for 8 p.m. at Midwestern State University’s D.L. Ligon Coliseum. Hawkins and Williams anchor a very athletic Oklahoma squad hoping to build on last year’s 89-74 Sooner win. Hawkins, a nimble 6-5 guard out of Oklahoma City’s Millwood High School, is a tough match-up at the swing position with quickness and a 40-inch vertical leap. Williams (6-7, OKC Carl Albert) averaged 17.6 points per contest and 9.5 rebounds last season and is the younger brother of Duke’s Shelden Williams. Six other players standing 6-4 or taller will join the pair. The Sooners will have a clear size advantage and, with Williams and Hawkins, appear to have the edge in overall talent. But Oklahoma coach Walter Brewer had the same feeling in the recent Faith 7 All-Star game in Shawnee, Okla. “On paper, I thought our team was better,” he said. “But the Texas squad pulled it out in overtime. “I think it’s anybody’s game, because it’s an all-star game and there’s no defense.” Midway coach John Guice leads a talented group of Texas shooters into the game. “The key is getting these guys to play together as a team,” he said. “I thought Texas had the advantage last year, but lost because Oklahoma played more as a team.” Roderick Adams, a 6-1 guard from Cedar Hill, headlines a Texas roster with a decidedly local flavor. He averaged 14.6 points, 5.2 boards and 3.3 assists for the state runner-up Longhorns. He will be joined by a plethora of sharp-shooting guards in Colleyville Heritage’s Andrew Frohman (12.1 ppg.), Bridgeport’s Jacob Joiner (19 ppg.), City View’s Anthony Montoya (21.6 ppg.) and Azle’s Clarke Hale (24.8 ppg.). Wichita Falls High School’s Terrance Willis (13.0 ppg.), Mansfield Summit’s Kellen Allen (13.2 ppg., 7.0 reb.) and Azle’s Mark Phillips (14.3 ppg., 9.2 reb.) will be counted on to man the post positions.

You have a valid point about the fairness of the transfer rules. However, you would have pure chaos without the transfer rules, you would have the "elite" schools recruiting the lower level colleges and player turnover at all levels would be completely out of control.

Denver has 3 foreign players but they are the number 1,2, and 3.

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Box score (NCAA) 2004 Sun Belt Tournament North Texas vs Western Kentucky May 13, 2004 at Lafayette, La. (Lady Cajun Park) North Texas 2 (22-55) Player AB R H RBI BB SO PO A LOB ------------------------------------------------------ Maxey, Katy p............ 4 0 0 0 0 2 0 4 4 Walker, Kelei cf......... 3 1 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 Cranmer, Stephanie lf.... 2 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 Waters, Susan 3b......... 3 0 0 0 0 0 1 7 0 Hacker, Mandy dp......... 3 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 Bostic, Heather 1b....... 3 0 0 0 0 0 14 0 1 Garcia, Monica rf........ 3 0 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 Chapman, Brittiny ss..... 3 0 2 1 0 1 0 3 0 Jonse, Christen c........ 2 0 1 0 0 0 2 0 0 Rodriguez, Nicole 2b/pr.. 0 1 0 0 0 0 2 2 0 Totals................... 26 2 6 1 0 4 21 16 5 Western Kentucky 0 (35-22) Player AB R H RBI BB SO PO A LOB ------------------------------------------------------ Garcia, Riley c.......... 3 0 2 0 0 0 3 2 0 Minnis, Becky pr........ 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Pennington, Renita cf.... 3 0 1 0 0 0 3 0 2 Floyd, Shelly 2b......... 2 0 0 0 0 0 4 1 0 Rolfs, Bailey ss......... 3 0 0 0 0 0 4 0 0 Richardson, Jessie rf.... 2 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 Hansen, Sam dp........... 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 Gatti, Lindsay 1b........ 3 0 1 0 0 1 7 0 0 Ballance, Jen pr........ 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Sevco, Natasha 3b........ 3 0 1 0 0 0 0 3 0 Towns, Alana lf.......... 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Lathrop, Adrienne p...... 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 Totals................... 25 0 6 0 1 1 21 8 6 Score by Innings R H E ----------------------------------------- North Texas......... 000 011 0 - 2 6 0 Western Kentucky.... 000 000 0 - 0 6 2 ----------------------------------------- E - Pennington; Rolfs. DP - N. Texas 1. LOB - N. Texas 5; Western Ky. 6. SH - Cranmer; Jonse; Floyd. North Texas IP H R ER BB SO AB BF ----------------------------------------------- Maxey, Katy......... 7.0 6 0 0 1 1 25 27 Western Kentucky IP H R ER BB SO AB BF ----------------------------------------------- Lathrop, Adrienne... 7.0 6 2 1 0 4 26 28 Win - Maxey (16-33). Loss - Lathrop (16-9). Save - None. WP - Lathrop. Inherited runners/scored: None. Umpires - HP: James Martarona 1B: Jana Tidwell 3B: Butch Hebert Start: 1:28 pm Time: 1:36 Attendance: 69 Game notes: Game 1 of 2004 Sun Belt Softball Tournament North Texas advances to 6:30 p.m. game vs. Louisiana-Lafayette tonight Western Kentucky will play Middle Tennessee-FIU loser Friday at 11 a.m. Game: SBC1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Play-by-Play 2004 Sun Belt Tournament North Texas vs Western Kentucky - Play-by-Play May 13, 2004 at Lafayette, La. (Lady Cajun Park) Score by Innings R H E ----------------------------------------- North Texas......... 000 011 0 - 2 6 0 Western Kentucky.... 000 000 0 - 0 6 2 ----------------------------------------- North Texas starters: 4/p Maxey; 24/cf Walker; 9/lf Cranmer; 19/3b Waters; 7/dp Hacker; 17/1b Bostic; 15/rf Garcia; 23/ss Chapman; 20/c Jonse; 3/2b Rodriguez; Western Kentucky starters: 17/c Garcia; 21/cf Pennington; 5/2b Floyd; 33/ss Rolfs; 1/rf Richardson; 7/dp Hansen; 3/1b Gatti; 2/3b Sevco; 19/lf Towns; 11/p Lathrop; North Texas 1st - Maxey struck out looking. Walker flied out to cf. Cranmer lined out to 2b. 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Western Kentucky 1st - Garcia grounded out to ss. Pennington grounded out to 3b. Floyd grounded out to p. 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. North Texas 2nd - Waters lined out to ss. Hacker grounded out to 2b. Bostic popped up to 2b. 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Western Kentucky 2nd - Rolfs grounded out to 2b. Richardson grounded out to 3b. Hansen grounded out to 3b. 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. North Texas 3rd - Garcia struck out swinging. Chapman struck out swinging, out at first c to 1b. Jonse grounded out to p. 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Western Kentucky 3rd - Gatti struck out swinging. Sevco grounded out to p. Towns grounded out to p. 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. North Texas 4th - Maxey fouled out to 1b. Walker lined out to cf. Cranmer popped up to ss. 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Western Kentucky 4th - Garcia singled up the middle. Pennington singled to left field; Garcia advanced to second. Minnis pinch ran for Garcia. Floyd out at first 3b to 2b, SAC, bunt; Pennington advanced to second; Minnis advanced to third. Rolfs reached on a fielder's choice; Pennington advanced to third; Minnis out at home ss to c. Richardson walked; Rolfs advanced to second. Hansen flied out to lf. 0 runs, 2 hits, 0 errors, 3 LOB. North Texas 5th - Garcia to c for Minnis. Waters popped up to ss. Hacker singled to left field. Rodriguez pinch ran for Hacker. / for Rodriguez. Rodriguez advanced to second on a wild pitch. Bostic popped up to ss. Garcia singled to left field; Rodriguez advanced to third. Chapman singled to shortstop, RBI; Garcia advanced to second; Rodriguez scored. Jonse singled to catcher; Chapman advanced to second; Garcia advanced to third. Maxey struck out swinging. 1 run, 4 hits, 0 errors, 3 LOB. Western Kentucky 5th - Hacker to dp for Rodriguez. Rodriguez to 2b. Gatti grounded out to 3b. Sevco singled to left field. Towns grounded out to 3b; Sevco advanced to second. Garcia singled up the middle; Sevco advanced to third. Pennington grounded out to p. 0 runs, 2 hits, 0 errors, 2 LOB. North Texas 6th - Walker singled through the left side. Cranmer out at first c to 2b, SAC, bunt; Walker advanced to second. Waters reached on a fielding error by ss, advanced to second on a fielding error by cf; Walker scored, unearned. Hacker grounded out to p. Bostic flied out to cf. 1 run, 1 hit, 2 errors, 1 LOB. Western Kentucky 6th - Floyd grounded out to ss. Rolfs flied out to cf. Richardson singled to second base. Hansen grounded out to 3b. 0 runs, 1 hit, 0 errors, 1 LOB. North Texas 7th - Garcia grounded out to 3b. Chapman singled, bunt. Jonse out at first 3b to 2b, SAC, bunt; Chapman advanced to second. Maxey grounded out to 3b. 0 runs, 1 hit, 0 errors, 1 LOB. Western Kentucky 7th - Gatti singled up the middle. Ballance pinch ran for Gatti. Sevco grounded into double play 2b to 1b; Ballance out on the play. Towns lined out to 3b. 0 runs, 1 hit, 0 errors, 0 LOB. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Line score North Texas 2, Western Kentucky 0 (May 13, 2004 at Lafayette, La.) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- North Texas......... 000 011 0 - 2 6 0 (22-55) Western Kentucky.... 000 000 0 - 0 6 2 (35-22) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Pitchers: North Texas - Maxey. Western Kentucky - Lathrop. Win-Maxey(16-33) Loss-Lathrop(16-9) T-1:36 A-69 Game notes: Game 1 of 2004 Sun Belt Softball Tournament North Texas advances to 6:30 p.m. game vs. Louisiana-Lafayette tonight Western Kentucky will play Middle Tennessee-FIU loser Friday at 11 a.m. Game: SBC1

It is difficult to predict NT fortunes in basketball for 2004-5 but I believe there is a chance for an improvement. On paper it looks fairly dismal losing all our “big men” and according to most a lackluster recruiting year. The strength of the team should obviously be the guards. I hope Hopkins can stay injury free and have the big year everyone has waited for. He is capable of a MVP type of senior season. Watson and Hines should both start in a predicted 3- guard lineup. Sturns and perhaps Mitchell should provide good backup at the guard position if he can play to his potential. Then there is number 4 & 5 positions were there are no obvious starters. IMO Juniors Barnett, Harris and Thomas have all had their moments but none has shown that they are needed starter quality. Jones showed some ability toward the end of last year and maybe he can have a very up senior year like Degrate. Jones was supposed to be a better player than teammate Degrate in Juco. Maybe freshman Williams is the real deal and can be a major contributor in his first year. Both Juco forwards seem to be role players but JJ must have seen something there. Apparently judging by the pictures, Simpson can jump out of the pit and White, as Mr. Alabama basketball in HS must have talent. My projection for NT next year is a 500 season using a 4 or 5 man rotation at the posts. However if one of the “big guys” can substantially elevate their game then NT may fight for the championship.

NT wins double header against NMSU on Sunday 9-8,3-2. First Sun Belt series win for NT.

I think you are correct. The teams it helps most are the big time programs that lose undergradulates to the NBA.

Per DMN, after repeal of 5/8 rule; NT will have an additional ship to give this year.