Greenblood94

"Although the points were not important at that time, the shot did bring the 8,800 Coliseum fans to their feet and the noise they made must have made the ghosts of the neighboring “Old Pit” raise up and take notice." When was the last time we had HALF a crowd of 8,800 in the Super Pit??? That place would really ROCK if there were 8,800 people in it, even if not all of them were cheering for the Mean Green.

I would agree that Bliss' next stop should be at a Correctional Facility, but as a resident, not a coach... <_

Great list, Cooley. My NT watching experience extends back to the NCAA team of '87-'88, but I will take your word on those who were there before me. I was a bit surprised to see that Deon Hunter didn't even receive any "votes", despite your otherwise high opinion of him. I thought he'd be at least worthy of an Honorable Mention. Ronnie "Ro Mo" Morgan, Tony Worrell, Jesse Ratliff, Chris Davis and Deon Hunter were probably the best "five" that I saw during my years at the Super Pit.

Now there's an intelligent response... MGN, Mr. Shelton is a respected member of the faculty of North Texas. You may disagree with what he says, but why not stay on the high road and debate the issue with him intelligently, instead of sinking to a lower level??? In my opinion, you are crossing the line.

The money North Texas gets from playing the likes of UT and OU helps them meet Athletic Department expenses each year. The student fees would be even higher without "payday" games like tomorrow's contest in Norman. As Cerebus has pointed out in previous posts, NT needs to get into a situation where we are not relying on these type of games to finance the athletic budget, but are gaining enough revenue from season ticket sales, attendance, etc., to offset this method of revenue generation. I had several classes with Mr. Shelton during my days at NT, as Journalism was my minor. While I am disappointed with his stance on the role of "big-time football" at NT, I cannot argue with some of the things he points out, such as the prevailing attitude alumni have held in the past regarding athletics. However, I would submit to Mr. Shelton that, if the past two years have taught us anything, it's that attitudes towards athletics are changing, from the administration on down to alumni. I don't remember seeing a concerted effort to raise the $3M for the Athletics Center, but I do remember another fundraising effort for academic purposes that Athletic Department officials cited as the reason such fundraising for athletics wouldn't have worked, since they didn't want to hit people up for money twice in a row. It is my fervent hope (and I hopefully am not alone) that this renewed interest in the football program will translate into financial support, so that recent moves by the BOR will not be necessary for future growth and expansion of Athletic Department facilities. However, I AM glad that the BOR has seen fit to break with the tradition of its predecessors and assist the Athletic Department in this endeavor. I believe that future monies to be gained by such a venture will "repay" the money spent by the BOR, as well as help the same people of Denton who appear to oppose the BOR's actions.

OK, does anyone in this UNIVERSE think Bliss would be a good hire for NT anymore?????????????? Thought not.

Reading through the transcript turned my stomach. To think that parents have trusted their young sons with this man...unbelievable...

Hey, half a season's better than none at all...besides, he'll still practice with the team, won't he? Better to "unleash the monster" come conference time anyway...

And so it begins...from today's DMN Monday's college notebook 08/11/2003 From Staff and Wire Reports BAYLOR Baylor recruit says he'll go elsewhere HOUSTON – Center Tyron Nelson of Hempstead, one of Baylor's top basketball recruits, told Houston TV station KRIV on Sunday that he will ask the school to release him from his national letter of intent. Baylor president Robert Sloan placed the troubled program on probation for at least two years Friday and offered to allow any player to transfer after an investigation revealed that two players had their scholarships paid for by a third party and that the basketball staff knew of but did not report drug use by players. Coach Dave Bliss resigned Friday. Nelson, who averaged 26 points, 17 rebounds and 3 blocks last season, said he is interested in Oklahoma and Georgia Tech. He plans to contact them, and possibly others, immediately. Associated Press

I agree. The only reason he wasn't punished by the NCAA for the SMU stuff is because they already had the football program dead to rights on the Death Penalty and didn't want to pile on. I would take Jones over Bliss right now in a heartbeat. No contest.

It doesn't state which program, so it could be for the women. Given our efforts to comply with Title IX, I'd say this is a definite probability.

Yes, Cobbs is a junior. After reading the Media Day Release, I'm disappointed in the Media Relations department for having so many glaring mistakes on a release that many media outlets will be stating as fact for the rest of the season...Cobbs listed as a sophomore; Michael Hickmon listed among the "returning statistical leaders"; Scott Hall listed as the leader in total offense and playing 11 games when we all know he was in only one game. I know the Media Relations folks were cutting and pasting stats from last year over the 2001 stats, and this is very shoddy editing. Someone is not paying much attention to detail over there. And yes, before you ask, I used to work at the NT Daily during my school days there, and I still freelance for The Dallas Morning News, covering high school sports. So I know what those people are supposed to be doing...

Apts. on Sam Bass Blvd. - I can't remember their name...they're behind the Outback Steakhouse now...it wasn't there when I lived there. Colorado Courts Apts - on Colorado, over by the GT Mall...nicest apts I had ever lived in (up to then)...had a couple of ponds that the complex was built around...it was great doing my homework on the porch and watching the ducks in the pond and the afternoon showers. Duplex on Bernard St - on the other side of 35E from the campus, by the old Mr. Freeze and Piggly Wiggly store. Cabernet Apts - Fulton St near the old Flow Hospital...walking distance to campus...relatively quiet...funnest times were shooting water balloons with friends at unsuspecting drivers on Scripture

The Spurs gave up Danny Ferry for what they got in this deal, but I think that is okay. I was worried the Spurs would be like the Mavs in their lack of signing a free agent, especially when "the other O'Neal" stayed with the Pacers. Signing Nesterovic isn't nearly the same, since I think David Robinson could still play better defense than him, but adding Mercer (and Turkoglu, to a lesser extent) will help. Robert Horry kinda makes up for losing Ferry. The only thing now is can the Spurs keep the same successful chemistry they had last year with all the new faces on board????

In Texas, small town football IS a business... Don't get me wrong, I loved Friday Night Lights, mostly because the description Mr. Bissinger gave of Permian was dead on, which a lot of people in Odessa didn't like. The personal threats and harassment Bissinger went through from some of the citizens of Odessa in the aftermath of the book was WAY off base, in my opinion. Some people just can't stand to look in the mirror, I guess. What Mr. Bissinger pointed out in the book is that there are a lot of positive things that a football program like Permian's can bring out in its players, coaching staff, supporters and town...unfortunately, there are just as many negatives, too. I have a feeling some of the same issues that came about after the book's release will rise to the surface again after the movie is released, no matter what type of treatment the movie gives the book.

Whether or not the allegation is true, it sure sounds like Mr. Dennehy, Sr. is a bit bitter with the Baylor people over his son's apparent death, and is looking for some payback.

Well, as your handle suggests...nothing's shocking.

I know Cameron Yoe is near Waco, but I wonder if the girls teams are called the "Lady Yoemen" or the "Yoewomen"??????? In a similar vein, the Bridgeport boys teams are the "Bulls" and the girls teams are, that's right, the "Sissies".

In addtion to those, IronMan, some other favorites of mine (various classifications) include: Italy Gladiators Bonham Purple Warriors Amarillo Sandies Deer Park Deer Weatherford Kangaroos San Antonio Central Catholic Buttons (parochial school - a Button in this case is apparently part of a rattlesnake's tail) San Antonio Lanier Voks (that's right, V-O-K-S, I used to remember what that was, but my mind is going...) and, of course, the Fighting Farmers of both Lewisville and Farmersville

My name is Carlos, and I live in Plano, TX. I was known as Eppy94 on Harry’s old board. I graduated from UNT (officially) in 1998 with a Bachelor’s Degree in Radio-TV-Film, and a minor in Journalism. My last full-time semester was Spring of 1994 when I actually walked the stage, only to find out a couple of weeks later that I was three hours short of my degree. It took 4½ years to get back long enough to finish, but I did. I came to UNT in the spring of 1989 from San Antonio. I made the decision to come to UNT in February of 1988, and subsequently watched the ’87-’88 basketball team win the SLC Tourney on ESPN. In September of that year, UNT played Texas in football in Austin, and I was a face in the crowd, albeit on the other side of the field from where the Mean Green fans were concentrated. My seat happened to be on the back end-zone line where Mr. Cash FAILED to get his foot in for the winning TD reception for the Longhorns, but the officials saw otherwise. Having lived in San Antonio most of my life to that point and having a father who had attended Texas, and having decided only recently NOT to attend Texas myself (because my head told me I’d get a better education at UNT, which I was 100% correct about), I felt a lot of mixed emotions that night, but I came away with a sense of pride in being associated with my soon-to-be alma mater. During my years at UNT, I pledged Talons, was President of the organization for a semester, and went to football and basketball games with the likes of FirefightnRick, GreenBat and Talon90. FFR hasn’t changed one iota from his days as a student, and as fanatical a fan as he is, he’s that much more of a great friend, husband, father (his son and mine were born two weeks apart). If you haven’t had the pleasure of meeting Rick in person yet, I encourage you to do so during football season. He is everything a North Texas fan should be, but I digress… Anyway, one of the other things I was privileged to do during my student days was broadcast football and basketball home games in front of the mic on NTTV. Bill Mercer (the voice of the Eagles before George Dunham) took me under his wing and allowed me to go on SLC football road trips and help out with the radio broadcasts during the early 90s. I got to watch players like Mitch Maher, Scott Ford, Byron Gross, Erric Pegram (with the fumble…just kidding, Erric!), and others up close and personal. What a thrill! Now, I attend at least one home football game a year, and try to get to more when my wife (a UTA alum) and two-year-old son allow. It has been awhile since I went to a basketball game, but I’m hoping to change that this season… My favorite in-person UNT sports moment is a tie. The Fouts Field victory (pre-expansion) over SMU is 1-A. I had never seen that old stadium so packed, not even for the Centennial celebration earlier that year. The brawl at the end of the first half was right near where us Talons were seated. I have never heard a stadium so loud as when we counted off the final seconds. 1-B would have to be watching the Mean Green run through the tunnel in the Louisiana Superdome for their first New Orleans Bowl. I had not been able to attend a game all season (in fact, I cancelled plans for the Homecoming game against MTSU after we got beat by Northeast, uh, UL-Monroe). I was a basket case sitting by my computer listening to the Idaho game (since my stupid cable company didn’t pick up the TV broadcast), and jumped for joy the whole fourth quarter, announcing to my wife that we WOULD be going to New Orleans to watch the game. The whole New Orleans experience was great, even with the loss to Colorado State. I was not able to attend last year’s game, and really missed being in attendance with my old college buddies, one of whom came from Seattle to attend the game. I attended the watching party at the Embassy Suites near Grapevine Mills, but there was still a part of me that longed to be in the Big Easy. I have already promised my wife a full six-day, five-night trip to N.O. by ourselves when the Mean Green make their third straight trip. Anyway, that’s my story…I’m looking forward to meeting you all (or seeing you all again, as the case may be) during football season…

From the Dallas Morning News... Free throws make difference in Texas loss Oklahoma made 21 free throws, and Texas shot only 58 percent (11 of 19) from the line, as Oklahoma scored a 66-59 victory in the girls all-star game. A 3-pointer by North Texas signee Endurance Wali of South Grand Prairie tied the score, 47-47, entering the fourth quarter. But Oklahoma used an eight-point fourth quarter by Mara Kee to help put the game out of reach. Texas went scoreless in the final three minutes. Kee was named the game's MVP and finished with 16 points. Missouri signee Carlynn Savant of Euless Trinity had 14 points, and North Texas signee Kelsie Edwards of Mansfield Summit added 13 points. And from the Star-Telegram... Texas all-stars falter in Oil Bowl Classic By Gregory M. Smith Star-Telegram Staff Writer WICHITA FALLS - Carlynn Savant of Trinity scored 14 points, but the Texas girls all-stars went cold in the fourth quarter and fell to Oklahoma 66-59 in the Oil Bowl Classic basketball game at D.L. Ligon Coliseum on Thursday. Kelsie Edwards of Summit added 13 points for Texas, which led the annual game 31-29 at the half. Erica Parker, silent for most of the first half, was hot in the second, scoring Texas' first six points on three consecutive field goals. She added four points in the fourth quarter and finished with 11. "It just sort of happened; the options were open," Parker said of her scoring spree. "It got kind of rough in the beginning, but it was nice flowing." Oklahoma wasn't fazed by Texas' defense, which forced numerous turnovers. Led by game MVP Mara Kee, who had 16 points, Oklahoma appeared more poised and made the extra pass when necessary. Samantha Stovall scored 11 points for Oklahoma. Savant, who has signed to play with Missouri in the fall, scored six consecutive points as Texas trimmed Oklahoma's lead to 59-58 with less than three minutes to play. But Nikki Yager and Kee scored two and four points, respectively, to put the game away. -------------------------------- I saw Edwards play last year, and she is a solid player. The word on Wali is good, too. Looks like the women have a freshman class that can contribute early...

This might sound snobbish, or elitist, or whatever, but am I the only one who's getting tired of seeing sub-Division I opponents like St. Edward's and TAMU-Commerce on the schedule, especially for a home game??? With all due respect to both of those schools, they are not going to draw very many fans to the Super Pit. We need to schedule Division I opponents with more familiar names to get attendance higher...like Indiana, who will be coming in 2003-04...think of all the hype that THAT game is gonna bring. I know that teams like that are not going to routinely come down to Denton to play, even if we become the mid-major power we'd all like us to be, but its a bit embarrassing (not to mention detrimental to our RPI rating) to still be playing the lower-tier schools... I know top programs (Georgetown and the like) schedule sub-Division I opponents, but they are looking for easy wins and warm-up games, and have fans that will come see them no matter who they are playing...we do not have that luxury as of yet....