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Actually, I may be wrong about Morgan Fairchild. I'd heard she went to NT, but it may have been SMU.

I heard singer Michael Martin Murphey (of "Wildfire" fame) went to NT for a while. Meat Loaf. And Morgan Fairchild. She was a Zeta. Also, Eric Pegram. Former House Majority Leader Dick Armey isn't an alumn, but he taught at NT before his election to Congress. Ann Sheridan, an actress from the 1940s; she played on the women's basketball team. Bill Moyers. All I can think of right now.

Holy Crap!!!

You're kidding!? I lived in number 9 in 1987-88. It was sort of in the middle of the row. Some cool guys lived in #19 and we used to have combined parties. It was a great place. When did you live there? If you lived in #9 after me, um, sorry about that upstairs toilet, man.

There's a special place in hell just a-waiting for Orenthal.

Here's where I am on this...I think it would be good to have nicer places near campus. So -- there's a whole god-awful shopping complex south of campus on Eagle drive. Granted, I don't know its availability to developers, but it would make more sense -- it's near the stadium, the campus, plenty of parking and just off the freeway. Fry street is not nearly as convenient and Hickory's a one way street with little parking. I can't see a "rejuvenated" Fry St., rid of "eyesores", being a huge draw for folks who live in Southmont or Idiot's Hill. To paraphrase: "Build it and there not necessarily going to come." More important to some of us alums and a lot of the students, Fry street represents the closest thing to a campus social life that NT has. It's a part of the NT experience and tradition. Replace it with the ubiquitous Starbucks and "upscale" venues (which most students can't afford anyway), and you have fewer reasons for students to hang around campus on the weekends. NT "school spirit" already suffers enough from the feeling that it's a commuter school; taking away an NT tradition doesn't help.

Yeah. I continue to fail to see how this helps the FB program in any meaningful way. Amen.

Thanks. I just don't think the benefit of putting in two or three chain businesses outweighs the costs of doing away with some landmarks and popular venues.

Just curious. How does putting in a Starbucks, Barnes and Noble and other "upscale" strip mall businesses help the football program?

Well, I guess it's true. Sad. http://www.dentonrc.com/sharedcontent/dws/...a.2e937a0f.html

I lived on West Hickory (929 W. Hickory, I believe), in that row of townhosues a couple blocks from campus when I was a student in the 80s. That area was great. Cool bars like the Library, the Green Derby (anybody remember that place?), and, of course, the [Flying] Tomato. On Saturday mornings after visiting these establishments, you could walk over to Jim's Diner on Fry St. and have a great hangover-reducing greasy breakfast. I hope all this is just a rumor. Even though I don't live in Denton or Texas anymore, when I go back I always go by that area an it brings back a lot of great memories. So, for my own selfish sense of nostaligia, I'd like to keep it the way it.

Northwest High School 1981

Yeah, I'd like to, but I live 1300 miles away now.

I'm curious...When I attended NT in the 80s, the stadium was virtually empty on game days. Has attendance gotten any better?

I'm not because we have only about three alumni here in DC.