Cerebus

Multiple people ran the first team. I’m sure @TheReal_jayD has some inside info, but to me there wasn’t a clear #1 getting all the reps.

QB Stone Earle S Jayven Anderson DL Rod Brown

Simple majority to change the bylaws. Six can change the resignation (exit fee) rule, then resign.

You got me. I want this school to languish. Sure, I've supported them with thousands and thousands of dollars and helped run this board for a couple decades, but you saw through all of it. It was a long con. Good job. I want to see UNT in the B12 or SEC. However, I am not letting green colored glasses tint what I am seeing. Maybe. There might be some chance. Can you tell me what the chances the AAC/MWC might get it?

Don't know, but they WILL lose it going to a G5.

Ok, what level of team can get FORCED to join a conference? You have to get people to buy in. Right now I think the PAC thinks expanding the PAC is a better option that joining any G5. And I think I can lure enough teams to do that. Probably why they will go after AAC schools first. Possibility of keeping A5 status in PAC, versus for sure losing it?

Exactly, you would need at least six to negate exit fees.

Pony Power?

So it's impossible for the PAC to speak with the ESPN,AAC, and/or MWC teams and come up with something? The PAC4 will try. If they wanted to be in the AAC/MWC they would be there now. They will have A5 status, and the extra CFP distribution until someone strips it from their cold dead hands.

With that $420M war chest the PAC could make one time distributions to cover any exit fee.

Yes D1 FCS conferences need six members to be eligible for the FCS playoffs. A D1 Multi Sport conference needs seven members to be elible for the NCAA tournaments. A D1 FBS conference needs eight members.

Why didn't the PAC simply force Alabama to join them? If the PAC swings a better deal in front of Tulane, SMU, Memphis, North Texas the school will jump.

They tried to bail. They couldn't. Now they have to make the best of where they are.

I have heard people talk about 6, but the NCAA bylaws state an FBS conference has 8 members. If there is some sort of waiver process in the bylaws, I have not read that.

I mean neither of us are media rights lawyers, so aren't we both doing that? We're just over simplifying for our respective arguments.

I agree with that, but that won't stop talking to ESPN (at a much lower price than B12), or Apple, or anyone. You don't have to have a contract to negotiate on creating a new one.

Stanford is the wildcard, they can afford to step out and be indy but they won't get any special carve out into the CFP like ND does. They would have to park BB and non revenue in the WCC or the BWC, or else not have access to the tourneys. Even if they do go indy, you just have to invite five instead of four to get to the FBS 8 team minimum. You think the PAC4 would rather deal with the CERTAINTY of being in a G5, non A5 conference with a smaller tv deal, than the uncertainty if they can keep the A5 bonuses in the CFP?

It won't be a four team conference. There will be back room discussion on "hey if we invite X, Y, and Z, how much will you pay us ESPN?" You think OU/UT, or any of the 8 PAC schools who left leapt blindly? No, there was discussions with the TV partners.

Conference distributions happen at X date, if you aren't a member at X date, you don't get the distribution.

Yeah, the PAC4 sticking together at all is probably not good for us. I was really hoping the ACC would take Stanford/Cal because at that point the most likely survival path for OSU/WSU was to invite six MWC members.

If you think they have no value and no one would pay them for TV rights they you must obviously want the AAC not to invite them, correct? But you do want them to be invited. If we could land them they would increase the media deal. They have value, just not B12 value+ like they wanted.

So your position is: the PAC4 is valuable to ESPN if they join the AAC, while at the same time The PAC4 is not valuable to ESPN if they stay in the PAC? Doesn't make any sense to me. The PAC4 is clearly not $25M to $35M a year valuable to ESPN, which is what they wanted. But $10M to $15M a year? Probably.

If that is your primary supposition, then don't, just invite the top four out of the AAC. BTW Rice, Tulane, and USF are AAU members.

Hey kid come here and have zero access to the CFP? Or no access to the NCAA Tourney?