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Posts posted by Side.Show.Joe
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31 minutes ago, 3_n_out said:
Well, we’re in this. That’s all you can ask for. I’ll take this defensive performance. The offense needs to get better. How about some play action in the second half.
You do realize Navy rushed for around 240 yards in the first half? The first half.... Let that sink in for a minute.
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42 minutes ago, Side.Show.Joe said:
Great TD run by Rogers.
Morris is running a variation of the 50 defense, which is better than the 3-3-5. Basically, it's what teams ran 40 years ago when every offense was some version of the option. My concern is that it won't hold for 4 quarters and it will give up some deep balls.
I'm bumping this, since this ancient 50 just gave up a second deep ball.
Morris needs a real defensive solution. The 3-3-5 isn't the answer, and this gimmick 50 is dated and is beginning to get exposed.
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3 minutes ago, meaniegreenie said:
Quite literally. I just had my 40th HS reunion last weekend and that's what we had been running since Jr High.
I was a nose guard in a 50 defense back in school. I know it well. While better than a 3-3-5, it isn't ideal for us.
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1 minute ago, emmitt01 said:
What were you saying about giving up deep balls?
Please don’t say that anymore 😂😂
The 50 was good against the option 40 years ago. But, offenses are much faster and multiple now. The 50 just can't hold up when offenses (even Navy) stretch the field. I can almost guarantee you than UNT will not feature it beyond this game. If Navy starts running play actions against this 50, we will get into trouble.
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Great TD run by Rogers.
Morris is running a variation of the 50 defense, which is better than the 3-3-5. Basically, it's what teams ran 40 years ago when every offense was some version of the option. My concern is that it won't hold for 4 quarters and it will give up some deep balls.
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6 hours ago, cogido said:
Side.Show: I’ve watched all the games so far this year and it seems to me that UNT running either a 4 or a 3 down scheme hasn’t done any good. Everyone seems to run right through or around the defense either way.
I've watched us play every game too. Not all of the 4-man fronts we run are equal. Morris tends to lump them together when comparing them against our 3-man fronts. But, when we run a 4-down lineman front we are a more successful defense. We also run a 4-man front with two down linemen and two standing ends (that are too light and get drove back on run plays). That front gets beat just like the 3-man front. You can go back and watch the tape. It's all right there.
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1 hour ago, DentonLurker said:
I think some of you are just setting yourselves up to get upset game after game this year. They may go 4 down linemen at times or maybe even most of the time tomorrow, but this staff has proven they’re committed to the 3-3-5. It’s going to pop back up. This is your warning post.
I'm used to it. Like others, I gripped for a while about how Littrell needed to be fired. Some things are just obvious.
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Of course his sins would be forgiven. He already atoned for his offensive wrongdoing. But, the only way UNT beats Navy tomorrow is if Morris runs a 4-down linemen front for the majority of the game, which he has yet to commit to doing.
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18 minutes ago, UNTcrazy727 said:
We lost 4 of our top 6 or 7 defenders from last year (KD, Nixon, Gaddie, Robertson) A defense that was also really bad. To suggest we didn’t lose much is misleading.
I agree the coaches failed to hit the portal enough on defense. But at this point it is what it is. Morris and Caponi are trying different looks to find something that works, but that’s not going to happen after a few weeks. Especially, after working on installing the 3-3-5 since the Spring.Every G5 programs loses their best players to the portal. That's not an excuse either. Last year's defense was bad, but it wasn't the worst in all of the FBS bad.
I refuse to believe it's just too late and we have to accept that our defense is trash. The complaining will continue until substantive changes are made. Morris could reassign Caponi and bring in a different coach with a fresh take on how to improve with our current personnel. There is talent on the offensive side that isn't seeing the field. Athletes are athletes. Some of those bodies can be moved to the defensive side and maybe push for playing time. And, the 3-3-5 doesn't have to be our base scheme. 4-down linemen on defense is still more effective in most situation.
Beyond the fact that they wasted too much valuable time, I don't care that they spent the spring installing the 3-3-5. It doesn't work with the players we have. The Bye week and the ACU game should have provided them enough time to reset and get something better in place. They chose not to. Now, we are probably about to give up historic rushing numbers to Navy. That will be on Morris too.
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1 minute ago, UNTcrazy727 said:
There is no magical change Morris can do that will make this defense solid. Firing Caponi isn’t going to help the defense start playing better. Morris brought Caponi here to run the 3-3-5. He’s not going to fire him until he has the personal to properly run the defense. They’re obviously trying different looks to switch things up. We’ve run way more 4 man fronts the last 2 games, but still getting gashed. We just don’t have enough FBS caliber players on defense. No defensive scheme is going to change that.
Ranting that heads should already be rolling after a few games is just typical illogical fan behavior.Solid? We are a long way from solid. Middle of the pack is solid. We are the worst in the FBS. At this point we just want a defense that isn't a complete embarrassment.
We brought back a large portion of our production from last season's C-USA Championship Game team. The same team that came within 3 points of beating Boise State in the Fresco Bowl. There is no logical reason to make excuses for being the worst defense in all of the FBS. If we lack the talent to field a respectable defense, than that is on Morris and Caponi. They had the offseason and the portal to go out and get the players they needed. There are no magical excuses that change those facts. You can't have it both ways. You can't say he needs to have his personnel in place, and ignore the fact that he chose not to bring in the players when he could have got them.
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Morris seems like a down to earth guy, and I like him personally. But, as a coach, I think he's in over his head a little. Until he steps up and actually figures out how to address the defensive failings, UNT will continue to struggle for wins. And he will be no better than an average coach, at best.
Most of these Leach coaches struggle to field real defenses. That's why most get fired and end up back as OC's. I was really hoping Morris would be different. It's not too late yet. But it is his choice to make.
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3 hours ago, 3_n_out said:
Did you see Dilfer go off on his coaches yesterday? Looked like he got heated coz of a defensive substitution penalty, and he let his defensive coaches have it. Maybe Morris needs to do that. Maybe these coaches need to get uncomfortable so we can see what they have under pressure
I'm not a fan of Dilfer's behavior yesterday. Sure they made a bad mistake, but making a spectacle of himself in the middle of the game is a bad look for their program. If I'm a recruit or the parent of a recruit, that wouldn't sit well with me.
I'd never want to see Morris berate coaches or players on the sideline like that. In my opinion, Morris should have dealt with Caponi during the bye week. But as we can see from the defensive performance last night, he did not.
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14 hours ago, UNTcrazy727 said:
…what exactly are you wanting Morris to do?
His job.
As head coach, it's his responsibility to insure we don't have the worst of anything in all of the FBS. For 5 straight weeks we have endured the worst overall defense in the FBS, No FBS defense is giving up more points, or rushing yards. We are entering the 6th week of the season. Practicing tackling and running a few other defensive looks on the field isn't working (ACU should never be able to score 31 on UNT's defense). It is obvious to everyone paying attention that the 3-3-5 shouldn't be our base defense. Can UNT use it in situations? Sure. But, it isn't working as our standard scheme.
This season doesn't have to be a loss. Caponi doesn't have to continue as our defensive coordinator. He has failed at the job. Morris needs to reassign him for the rest of the season, and promote or bring in a coach with successful experience as a DC.
Our offense is among the best in college football, and can probably post big numbers on most of the other AAC teams. Unfortunately, our offense is currently preforming double duty as our best defense too, and Morris needs to acknowledge that fact and make the adjustments so that the defense will pull their own weight on this team. Rogers is good at keeping our defense off the field by managing the short passing game and sustaining drives with his feet and our running game. Imagine what this offense could do if they were free to push the tempo and stretch the defenses more. Unfortunately, our lack of defense prevents our offense from being as good as they could be. As long as Morris allows this gameplan to mask the failing of our defense, then he is choosing to shortchange half of his team and the Mean Green fans. I hope I've answered you question.
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The UNT defense has allowed a 100 yard rusher in each of our games this season. Navy is going to smoke Morris' defense (Can't blame Caponi anymore. Morris is the one allowing this to continue, so he owns it now).
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I expect to beat teams like Rice or Tulsa by a score of 45-31. Not ACU. No where near good enough tonight.
Navy is 1-3 right now, and licking their chops at the thought of whaling on our defense next Saturday. The Mean Green offense will have to score 70, because the UNT defense is trash. If this is the best our defense can play, then we might not win a conference game this season.
FIX THIS CRAP MORRIS!!!!!!!!!!!
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2 minutes ago, 3_n_out said:
A coach that is stubborn and continues to march the same philosophy that doesn’t work isn’t a good coach. A coach who continues to allow his coaches to be his downfall is on him 💯
Dodge was bad with the defensive side too. We all know how that turned out. This defense makes Mendoza's look respectable.
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3 minutes ago, El Paso Eagle said:
THE WORST DEFENSE IN FBS IS ON MORRIS
Until Morris actually fixes this defensive mess, only the offense should be addressed as Mean Green. There is nothing "Mean" about Caponi's defense. We can just call them the UNT defense.
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2 minutes ago, El Paso Eagle said:
I agree it's very concerning that after an off week, our defense still looks like it does tonight.
Yeah, I refuse to believe that our defensive talent is this bad. So it has to be the coaching and scheme.
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Caponi's defense is still trash. Allowing an FCS team to score 10 straight points to close out the Half in our home is unacceptable. More should have been done in the off week. Navy is going to shred this Caponi defense next Saturday. We need a better scheme.
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As much as our defense frustrates me, our offense is amazing with Rogers running it.
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We have to be able to get more pressure on that QB, without committing more players up front.
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1 minute ago, Green with Envy said:
Great to have UNT Football on the Freak. Terrible that I’m getting alternate programming. 3rd game in a row. I had the game until ACU scored, then it immediately flipped over to another program. Ridiculous.
You need ESPN+.
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6 minutes ago, 3_n_out said:
Great response by chandler. Now the defense needs to quit trotting out that terrible 3-man line and go 4-down. No one can pass rush on the 3-man line. Giving their qb time will kill us
Every snap of that opening drive, we ran a 3-down linemen front. Sad.
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ACU runs 5 plays, drove the field and got a touchdown on their opening drive. Thanks Caponi.
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***OFFICIAL UNT vs NAVY in-Game Discussion***
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Posted · Edited by Side.Show.Joe
Penalties hurt Navy in the 1st half. And like I've already stated, Navy is making adjustments and beginning to hurt us with their passing game. This game is beginning to get away from us.