[Devil's advocate take - How important are facilities really in recruiting?]

Behind NIL dollars!

[Who is your sleeper player on the 2023 UNT roster?]

Jace Ruder!! All or nothing. GMG 

[Just say no to smu]

I think they can basically buy themselves into the Pac. In a couple of years the PAC will not be a P5 conference. I hope they join the PAC!

[James Reese Update]

Man, he had some major hops!

[Has Recruiting Improved Under Morris? Yes]

18 hours ago, ntmeangreen11 said:

I expected more I will be honest. I have no idea what we're offering when it comes to NIL but I would assume that is what's holding us back. I think if we had made the same investment in recruiting staff size about 10 years ago we would have seen the results I thought were possible. I thought Coach O alone would bring in at least 1 very highly rated player based on what I was told about him. I'm not doggin anyone, coaches or commits, I just expected more to this point and that's probably on me for unrealistic expectations. I will say having ten commits with ZERO being OL/DL reminds me of the Dodge days and that's scary. Concerns me we will continue to struggle to recruit high school DL players as we did in the Littrell era.

DL and QB seem to have always been a challenge. These are the 2 areas we should be spending NIL dollars on transfers.

[Coppell WR Baron Tipton Commits 6/28]

A qb!!

[Why do we care about Commits in the age of NIL & the Portal?]

2 hours ago, NT80 said:

All their $$ didn't keep their head coach from moving to Ft. Worth. 

All their bought players only produced a 7-6 record. 

Again this is just the beginning. Look at this years TP commits. A higher talent level will matter.

[Why do we care about Commits in the age of NIL & the Portal?]

3 hours ago, BillySee58 said:

Eric Morris has landed 22 High School commits at North Texas since being hired. Of those 22 commits, 2 have decommitted.

It’s easy to draw attention to the decommits and transfers and act like it’s all because of NIL or Transfer Portal, but it seems like most UNT fans ignore the context of the coaching change or guys getting an extra COVID year. 

Before the coaching change, in 2022 we returned 16 of the 19 (including K and P) of our starters who were eligible to return from 2021. 1 of the guys we lost was a guy who played 5 years for us, and the other 2 were the Murphy twins.

Guys generally stay. If we start losing a ton of guys who actually committed under Morris, or start losing a bunch of starters who Morris brought in, then there would be more validity in the concern.

College sports is in a state of change. Is the TP 3-4 years old and NIL monies about 2 years old? In that short period of time the change has been dramatic. SMU is an example of the future. NIL dollars are going to be a top reason to attend a certain school. For SMU it is not facilities, crowds , coach or tradition it is NIL $$$. The day of bringing in developmental recruits will be gone for most schools.

[AAC power rankings]

Finish in the top 1/2 and finding a qb I would think that would be a successful season! GMG 

[Has Recruiting Improved Under Morris? Yes]

No matter what happens with the portal, at this time you still need to bust your a$$ on recruiting HS kids. In a few years it may be less effort. College football is still in a state of flux.

[What donor fatigue means as NIL enters its third year of impacting college sports]

19 minutes ago, southsideguy said:

who do you give money to , the NIL branch or the mean green club?

Do you give money to the NIL or donate $$$ to help build the new Mean Green Athletic facility? Where is the biggest bang for the buck?

[If the PAC and the ACC collapse]

28 minutes ago, NT80 said:

Continuity of success is the difficult thing at our G5 level.  For every Grant McCasland we find that does well, they will get taken by a P5.  We must be ready to backfill with a Ross Hodge and keep on winning!

Conference expansion to the P5 level is still about Football power (unless you are $mut).  We need some NIT-type years in Football.  Not win the CFP, but win a LOT, win the BIG games, and win some BOWLS.  Attendance and more Media is also important to build our image.

I’m expecting an up tick in attendance. I think MBB will be the biggest beneficiary. Get a group together and buy season tkts! GMG 

[Has Recruiting Improved Under Morris? Yes]

I have always been a big Morris fan and started following him after the positive comments were made by Seth and Graham after we played them. He has proven to be an evaluator of talent and has on field success at WSU with a quick turnaround. Recruiting HS players has fallen off dramatically across college football ranks and will continue to do so. This could be an opportunity for UNT but only if they stick and produce. We will know come signing period and 2 years later. With the NIL monies and the transfer rules  I’m skeptical. I think the twins may be a sign of the future. With success on the field I am more excited on who he can bring in with TP. GMG 

[The Pac-12's media rights negotiations are "not going very well," CBS Sports' Barrett Sallee told FOS.]

PAC becoming a G5? When you look at the options of who they can add it is looking more like a G5 plus conference.

[Breaking: North Shore WR Christopher Barnes Commits for North Texas]

With the portal and NIL monies verbals are of little use. They can decommit up to signing. And then we have to scramble. They need to move signing day up or not even have a signing dead line. 

[Desoto OL Decommits from North Texas]

Portal, portal, portal especially when it comes to lineman and qb’s!

[Breaking: Mesquite Horn OL Davion Hurth Commits to North Texas]

Getting a verbal HS commit this far in advanced is always sketchy.  We could always say take a hike.  Another example on why I think  portal players should be 80% of the team.

[SDSU sent letter to MWC asking to postpone exit deadline]

SMU to the Pac is kind of like Rice to the AAC? SMU could except the Pac invite and wave their portion of the split. With the NIL situation I hope they get in. Their portal class is ranked #3 in the nation, they better win big this year.

[New Darkhorse UNT QB Dylan Gebbia]

Morris has proven he can evaluate qb talent. GMG 

[Athletics State of the Department is Tonight]

On 6/17/2023 at 10:17 PM, DeepGreen said:

2,000 (tickets) x $25.00 per ticket x 6 (games) = $300,000 ?

I wasn’t in attendance.  Just going by previous posts.  $300K seems like a low bar.

That would be guaranteed monies. Poor weather conditions are a killer for attendance.

[North Texas Basketball: Could Mean Green win the AAC in its first year?]

If we do, we may become a BB school?

[Trying to understand....]

For coaches it is still early on the NIL monies. There will be failures but there will also be Tulane types. 2&10 to a 10&2 with credit going to the transfers.

[Trying to understand....]

3 hours ago, greenminer said:

Why would CU be evidence for any argument? They are such an outlier with Deion and the way he Is treating the program.

CU is the first school to openly chase off players and bring in high valued transfers. 

[Could the MWC still try to make a Play for UNT and UTSA]

AAC and MWC should form an association of some type. OOC play at least. 

[Trying to understand....]

2 hours ago, greenminer said:

Some initial thoughts:

None of this resource talk is different from before NIL/portal.  A coach from 2013 would have had no problem utilizing all these resources if it meant having a healthy program full of HS recruits from rosters top-to-bottom.

Which brings us back to, how many HS kids are leaving after 1 or 2 years? Certainly more than before, but I am not on board with someone like @Wag Tag who is of the belief that it is a waste to have more than 20% of your roster populated by HS recruits.  At least, I'm not yet ready to make that kind of leap.

It would be interesting to see how many HS kids were cut? Example CU. You look at any school last year that had unexpected success, it was the transfers that created that success. Most within their first year.