[Kason Martin Update]

Kason had a happy thanksgiving. His season ended and he tossed the pigskin around with his family, ate some turkey, and really looked forward to his break.

he’s looking forward to providing you all with more updates next season

[If I was AAC commish...]

18 hours ago, Side.Show.Joe said:

If the AAC ever goes back to divisions, or moves to having 3 permanent rivalry games... I'd like to see our SMU game be played as our first conference game of the season. The Rice game played on Halloween every season. And, the UTSA game always be on Thanksgiving weekend. I just like the idea of having set dates that I can schedule around. 

Our fans are a way too fickle and apathetic to waste thanksgiving weekend on a rivalry game. I definitely think the game should be some time in november though 

[Congrats to UTSA]

30 minutes ago, UNT Texas Hooligan said:

Unfortunately, this is very true. Hoisting an NIT banner in basketball is extremely cringey

This 100%. Literally a participation banner. 

[Let's go a different route for HC]

I hope the majority of people reading this thread know who this man is... 

[Let's go a different route for HC]

Leadership experience- Yes

Worked in small and large organizations - Yes (Dallas and Argyle, so he knows how both types operate) 

Would go for slightly less than $1.8 million - Yes

Knows the area - Yes

Would not use this as a stepping stone - Yes 

Would appeal to the donors - Yes (insert political comment here)

Would replace a 29 year old QB with others with more potential - Yes

Knows how to grow an organization - Yes 

Has more personality than Seth Littrell - Yes 

Could raise money - Maybe 

 

 

[When is it Time to Panic?]

Grant has a 5 year track record of doing great things, the flu has apparently decimated the team (get your shots people) .... St Marys is good, would've been nice to get a Q1 but it didnt happen 

[Another reason why I'm glad we're out of CUSA]

Had no idea my thread about CUSA’s new media rights deal would turn into a dick measuring contest but I guess that’s internet message boards for you 

[DRC: Prediction -- UNT will continue late-season run by beating UAB in tight game]

I'd rather our championship hopes not come down to a do or die game at Rice. I think Seth knows this is a last stand and hope the effort shows 

[Another reason why I'm glad we're out of CUSA]

 

[DRC (updated with story): American announces schedule model that will have UNT playing SMU annually]

Curious who the last OOC game is going to be .... 

[UNO Decides Against Football Program]

https://unoprivateers.com/news/2022/11/9/general-university-of-new-orleans-students-reject-proposed-student-experience-fee.aspx

I remember the fierce debate we had on campus in 2008 about our student service fees... imagine if that didnt pass. 

[New York Mean Green Alumni?]

6 hours ago, NT80 said:

You really need to work on not insulting your audience.

I don’t think he means that as an insult. 

[South Florida fires head coach Jeff Scott]

1 hour ago, meangreenfaninno said:

This has been proven to be a very good program when they have the right coaches.  They sit in a hotbed of talent.  

One thing that works against them is they play at Raymond James… which is well off campus.

Ucf passed em in short order thanks to winning and commitments to growing facilities 

[South Florida fires head coach Jeff Scott]

15 hours ago, untjim1995 said:

I do find it very interesting that Leavitt has never been a head coach again. Seems really weird, like stuff you don’t wanna know about is holding him back.

 

On January 8, 2010, Leavitt was fired after an investigation by USF officials found that he had struck a player in the locker room during halftime of a game against Louisville the previous November 21. Leavitt claimed he was merely trying to console the player and never struck him. School officials found that Leavitt was not truthful about what happened, and also found that he had interfered with the investigation.[7] ESPN's Ivan Maisel reported that Leavitt's interference, which included telling several players and coaches to change their stories, was the biggest factor in the decision to fire him.[8] The Tampa Tribune reported that school president Judy Genshaft and athletic director Doug Woolard felt they had no choice but to fire Leavitt after he refused to admit he had done anything wrong.[9] Running backs coach Carl Franks was named interim coach of the Bulls[10] until January 14, 2010, when Skip Holtz was hired as head coach.[11]

 

 

[Soooo...]

45 minutes ago, Udomann said:

That is well said. I root for this team every week. I root for the players. Hell, I even root for Aune every time I see him chunk a ball in the air. I hope his NFL dream happens and he retires in 5 years at the ripe old age of 60-something.

But I have the unwavering belief it could have been and should be better. Seth did the job, I just want to see what the next guy can do with these resources. 

It's the same in the corporate world. There are floor raisers, and ceiling raisers, and. those who specialize in stabilizing unstable (there's a corporate word or term here and I am missing it) situations 

Seth just passed DD in wins, but let's be honest... a 43-42 record doesn't move the needle when it comes to Texas, and the greater south football. 

 

 

[Soooo...]

56 minutes ago, outoftown said:

Yesterday was pretty good, treating a bad team exactly like on should treat a team that is inferior. Last week sure was also pretty nice. but you look at the overall season and you notice that the schedule was pillow soft. 3 OOC losses against teams that are a combined 10-14 against opponents not named NT, and 2 of them might easily miss a bowl; 2 losses were blowouts to teams that really don't look all that great in hindsight. The best win? Probably a 6-4 WKU team I have my questions about. After that? 4-5 FAU?

Like last year, the team is clearly getting better in the second half than it was in the first half and I enjoyed the last two weeks quite a bit. That does not excuse all the suckitude of the first half (yet again). And if they make it to the conference championship and win it, well that is a title and NT shouldn't fire someone who wins hardware. Winning in SA sure would change the narrative a bit. He would have to be extended for recruiting reasons if nothing else.  The extension should not be 3 additional years, and should have more favorable buyout clauses than the last one. Maybe SL HAS figured something out, finally. But until we see it repeatedly against good teams I don't see that it requires getting fleeced in contract negotiations again.

Still, if NT wins the conference, I do wonder if SL wouldn't be going elsewhere by himself.

You’ve gotta win early at unt. Otherwise people lose interest 

[Soooo...]

30 minutes ago, UNTethered Eagle said:

Two questions:

- What happened to the insider conspiracy that Seth is gone no matter what that was posted on a here a few days ago? People are posting like an extension is a foregone conclusion.

 

- Why is it mutually exclusive for a poster to support the current team and desiring a new coach at the same time? Hint, it’s not.

 

I really hate the gaslighting that goes on over wanting Littrell gone after 7 seasons and him averaging 0.500 with no hardware in the case. All while we’re taking a step up in conferences next season. He’s underperformed based on his pay and tools. Thanks him for lifting us out of the dark ages but we’re not quite in the Age of Enlightenment yet.

Appreciate this post. He’s the second highest paid conference (formerly the highest by a wide margin). I expect him to perform like that.

what’s his CUSA record? What’s his record in bowl games? He’s currently 1-4 against future aac teams (win against fau and I count unlv as a higher conference team as well) 

we can appreciate what he did this year but also understand this is the standard for what we’re paying him 

[Have we reached the golden age of North Texas athletics?]

I think some of you are mistaken as to what a "golden age" actually means. 

[Have we reached the golden age of North Texas athletics?]

Soccer is losing in the semifinals to UTSA so...... no 

[Why is the Mayor of Denton not promoting UNT Homecoming Weekend?]

1 hour ago, Coach Mac Andy said:

Willing to bet the people downvoting my comment:

1.) don’t live in Denton
2.) have never met Hudspeth

Seriously, the guy has a handler with him at all times and can not make it through a sentence without getting confused. I’m not sure he’s all there. This is not a partisan thing. He’s just a moron. The guy made a burner to like his own post.

Lol I’ve kinda heard the exact same thing. Met him at a tailgate and thought he was kind of a dodo

[Scrappy's Influence on the Program]

1 hour ago, Victorygreen04 said:

Y’all want to get rid of everybody today. Seth..Brett Vito… now scrappy. What’s wrong with you people lol

We want anarchy. Storm Apogee. Pillage the field and bring the remnants back where Fouts stood so students don’t have to walk the extra 5 minutes across I-35. 

we want to bring back the past. Dig up Odus Mitchell’s grave! Have his corpse upright on the sideline! Then and only then we will have a winning coach, the ultimate standard bearer gracing us with his illuminating presence! Better yet, abolish the forward pass at UnT for we are running back university!

 

 

ok back to reality tv now 

 

 

[Scrappy's Influence on the Program]

1 hour ago, Greenrex said:

Excellent, Sir. Your nail-on-the-head satire is not wasted at my house as I'm sure it's equally appreciated round about... including Vito's place.

 

Too many people on this board take too many things way too seriously 

[Scrappy's Influence on the Program]

I know Scrappy has been our mascot for many years.  But to me, it seems that their (playing into modern gender roles here) disinterest and general apathy when it comes to firing up the crowd really make a difference on how students and five year olds going to their first games feel about UNT  The players treat them as a barrier to get around during warmups...and the dancing often portrays someone that has a less than healthy relationship with the product on the field.  The coaches caravans (when they feel like coming) and other community events have a different feel, but they just seem off when it comes to their full support of UNT. 

Is it time for a new mascot for UNT?

I'm sure that Scrappy is a nice eagle and I wish them no harm, especially since Eagles are considered endangered species (both the animal and the fickle UNT football fan).  But it seems to me that some positive energy and more hip thrusting during games couldn't hurt!

[Taking the Temperature of the Coaches in the American Athletic Conference]

25 minutes ago, MeanGreenGlory said:

Using a single example out of a much larger body of work is not a logical way to rationalize something. 

Here's Seth's non-conference history at UNT excluding FCS teams:

Year	Date	Opponent	Result
2016	September 3	SMU*	L 21–34
2016	September 17	at No. 23 Florida*	L 0–32
2016	October 22	at Army*	W 35–18
2016	December 27	vs. Army*	L 31–38 OT
2017	September 9	at SMU*	L 32–54
2017	September 16	at Iowa*	L 14–31
2017	November 18	Army*	W 52–49
2017	December 16	vs. Troy*	L 30–50
2018	September 1	SMU*	W 46–23
2018	September 15	at Arkansas*	W 44–17
2018	September 22	at Liberty*	W 47–7
2018	December 15	vs. Utah State*	L 13–52
2019	September 7	at SMU*	L 27–49
2019	September 14	at California*	L 17–23
2019	September 28	Houston*	L 25–46
2020	September 19	SMU*	L 35–65
2020	December 21	vs. Appalachian State*	L 28–56
2021	September 11	at SMU*	L 12–35
2021	October 9	at Missouri*	L 35–48
2021	October 23	Liberty*	L 26–35
2021	December 23	vs. Miami (OH)*	L 14–27
2022	September 3	SMU*	L 10–48
2022	September 17	at UNLV*	L 27–58
2022	September 24	at Memphis*	L 34–44

To save you from counting, that's a 5-18 record—a winning percentage of 21.74%. Not good.

And before you say, "Oh, well there are some good teams in there like Florida! We can't reasonably expect to beat Florida!" Okay, I can agree with you on that. But 2016 Florida is really the only team. Everyone else was beatable.

And before you say, "Oh, well some of those teams aren't in the AAC so it's not apples to apples." Okay, let's look at just the teams from the AAC during the seven seasons:

Year	Date	Opponent	Result
2016	September 3	SMU*	L 21–34
2017	September 9	at SMU*	L 32–54
2018	September 1	SMU*	W 46–23
2019	September 7	at SMU*	L 27–49
2019	September 28	Houston*	L 25–46
2020	September 19	SMU*	L 35–65
2021	September 11	at SMU*	L 12–35
2022	September 3	SMU*	L 10–48
2022	September 24	at Memphis*	L 34–44

That's a 1-8 record against AAC teams during his tenure—a winning percentage of just 11.11%.

I appreciate Seth for the positive things he has done at UNT, but he's not the guy who will lead us to AAC championships and playoff bids.

I'm frustrated about the losses but I'm more frustrated is that in many of them, especially in recent years, we haven't been competitive. 

[North Texas ranked 59th in the USA TODAY Sports NCAA Re-Rank 1-131]

1 hour ago, MeanGreenTexan said:

And A&M, lol.  Anyone feel good about lining up against them?

These are all clickbait..........