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Just now, MeanGreenTexan said:
Wrong about what? I'm not the one making definitive statements.
You need to re-read what I said. Who said Aune is better than Fine? Who said Torrey is better than Wilson?Are you the one who made the following statement inferring Aune is as good if not better than Fine?
As a reminder, Mason Fine's 1st year #s were worse than Aune's (and Fine played in more games). Could it be possible that Aune improves in year 2 to at or near Fine's #s?
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Just now, GrandGreen said:
Just out of curiosity, how do you know what Rucker can do? He has not played in years, he may or may not be a good QB.
I hope and think that NT's QB play will improve, no matter who wins the starting position.
Aune is a proved commodity at this point, so NT is a good position. NT either has an improved Aune or a better QB starting.
I agree I think the defense will be substantially improved, and that NT will do much better than the 3 or 4 wins most are predicting.
He was the Scout team QB for UNC the last 2 seasons, and was even practicing with the team up till his transfer was announced. UNC had no plans of cutting him lose or letting him go, he just wanted a shot to start at a University that could give him better opportunities than what he had there. UNTs offense is perfect for a QB to showcase his skills. Aune hasnt proven anything except he cant score in the first half of games. He is a great backup, and we are lucky to have him, but he isnt what we need to hang our hat on and call it a crowning achievement. You find a guy till he is as good if not better than Mason Fine, Aune isnt that guy. Is Ruder? I dont know, but I guarantee you he has a higher ceiling than Aune, considering where he transferred from, and the fact they didnt expect him to leave. UNC has nothing but positive things to say about Ruder.
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6 minutes ago, Wag Tag said:
Ruder with his size and being a dual threat is a huge advantage over Anne. How many dual threat qb's have we lost to that just had average arms? Being that he will run opens him up to possible injury (hope not) and it will be great having Anne back him up. When will update the players weights? He looks bigger. GMG
The people here who think Aune is a dual threat didnt just miss the boat, they missed the ocean. Bean was suppose to be a Dual Threat, but he couldn't throw. Ruder is a game changer especially in RPO situations. You can design a run with him and have confidence it wont be a 5 yard loss. I truly am excited about this years talent. I have a good feeling the defense will finally turn it around. We just have to score early and keep the foot on the pedal and not let up.
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1 hour ago, MeanGreenTexan said:
YES!!
Outside of declaring Ruder the starter before Fall Practice (re: competition) is over, we're 100% on the same page.EDIT: As a reminder, Mason Fine's 1st year #s were worse than Aune's (and Fine played in more games). Could it be possible that Aune improves in year 2 to at or near Fine's #s?
Could it be you are wrong? How in the world can anyone truly believe Aune is as good or better than Mason Fine? Ive heard it all folks. Aune is better than Mason Fine and Torrey is better than Jeff Wilson Jr. Color me a skeptic!
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4 minutes ago, El Paso Eagle said:
It's not the message that's getting downvoted
Sure, Ok, whatever! Who cares! Downvote away!
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54 minutes ago, MeanGreenTexan said:
I think people may be downvoting you (not me by the way, you got 'Skeptical Eagle' a couple of times from me), are doing so because they don't appreciate your tone... Not necessarily because they disagree.
EDIT: Also, it's pretty standard around here that if you start complaining about downvotes, people will pile on the downvotes... just because. It's a beautiful schtick we do.Downvotes dont bother me, I wear them like a badge of courage! LOL
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9 minutes ago, BillySee58 said:
I think Ruder will be the guy too but regarding the statement “we know what Aune can and can’t do,” consider this.
Aune took the majority of the snaps at QB in 4 games. In those 4 games he threw for 1,299 yards with 12 TDs against 2 INTs. Extrapolate those numbers across a full 12-game season that’s 3,897 yards and 36 TDs/6 INTs. That would be a good bit better than any regular season Fine put together. Much more Fine-esque than McNulty-esque.
Do we know for a fact that Aune can’t put those numbers together for a full season? No, we don’t. We have a good idea that he can’t because he also had a flop of a game against MTSU that lost him his job, but we know he’s capable of putting up big numbers and have reason to believe he would be better this year.
Again, I think Ruder wins the job too but:
1. Like others have said, it’s going to be because Ruder beats him out, not because of his HS rankings.
2. Aune’s production indicates he’s not a bad player at all. If he is improved by a reasonable margin, he’s definitely a player we can win games with provided the defense is competent this year.
I cant argue against what you are saying. I applaud you for the post! Thank you for staying on topic here.
1) I made this point to show there was more interest in Ruder than Aune coming out of HS, and Ruder was getting as many looks as Justin Fields, which is true.
2) Aune isnt a horrible player, but we can do better. Extrapolating his numbers doesnt really hold water for me. He was never brought in to be the long term guy with Jason Bean on the roster. I honestly dont even think you allow Aune to play unless Ruder falls on his face. Aune is no Mason Fine.
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29 minutes ago, El Paso Eagle said:
Just wondering if you think trying to piss off people and act like an ass is the right way try and make your point? How about you focus on what Ruder can do and stop trying to bad mouth others. At the end of the day, if you are a Mean Green fan, your hope should be that the player who performs best plays.
At the end of the day I do hope the best player plays. Thats why Adaway should play over Torrey and Roberts should play over Pirtle, I have kind of driven that point home on several of my posts. I am sorry there are snowflakes on this forum who cant handle discussion here. Im not the one going around accusing people of never attending UNT like others do here. "Color me a Skeptic!" PFFT! Color me a skeptic in regards to the fact he doesnt know what the heck he is talking about. LOL Aune is as good if not better than Mason Fine. That was a good one.
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6 minutes ago, PlummMeanGreen said:
As you’ve observed, GMG tends to have no shortage of idiots. Hell, I’ve probably been guilty of being one from time to time, yet some totally misunderstand my Baby Boomer era sarcasm. So yes, opinionated Mean Green fans this forum most definitely has an abundance. 😆
🗣••• There are only 2 kinds of people I have absolutely no use (& I avoid them):
(1) bonafide racists &
(2) bonafide (sometimes subtle) race-baiters.Life is too short.
🦅I can't argue with that one! Who is that guy to tell the world he doubts I graduated from UNT? He acts as if the Mean Green are some power house in football, and I should have been here eight years ago on this forum. I didn't know forums had a time limit for when you join them. This place seems like a good ole boy dont rock the boat club to me.
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23 minutes ago, MGNation92 said:
As a resident skeptic and overall pessimist of North Texas football, you'll learn to tone it down. Makes conversations with other board members a lot more pleasant.
I love my university and it's sports programs. There are a lot of homers here, no doubt. But more often than not the regular posters (such as @MeanGreenTexan) put forward good faith arguments/points.
At this point he's right. You're just arguing with yourself.
Is Ruder better than Aune? As a high school player, yes. As a college QB? Nobody knows because we haven't seen him play a down for us. I want whoever will win us football games.
Pirtle is not the answer at TE, and I'm almost positive everyone would agree on that one.
Torrey is a good compliment back, not a workhorse. We've known that since he's been here. He's small, quick, and shifty with good hands. Everything you want in a 3rd down/compliment back. Addaway is a big guy that's better suited in between the tackles. As for Torrey not gaining a yard on 3rd and 1, I'd argue that's more Littrell's fault, because all 128 teams in the FBS and probably most of the FCS know his short yardage strategy is a run up the gut.
All that being said, if Littrell wins less than 6 games, he needs to be canned, and we need to find a competent head coach
And yet I am downvoted several times for pointing out the simple fact Adaway should be eating almost all of Torreys reps! Some people either feel threatened here by new ideas, or they are cool with the status quo. If Aune isnt as good as Mason Fine, he shouldnt be starting. Mason is now the gold standard here. You play guys till you find that guy. Aune isnt that guy, I am sorry. Most of our scores did come in the 2nd half of play, its just a fact. Its like our offense in most of our games didnt even show up the first half. You can blame it on a lot of things, lack of blocking, lack of receiving outside of Darden, too much Darden. You can slice it up anyway you want. The fact of the matter is until Ruder shows he isnt the answer, he should start, for the simple fact we know what Aune can and cant do. If Ruder struggles yank him, but doing the status quo is not going to win us six games. Playing Adaway instead of Torey and Roberts instead of Pirtle makes a world of difference.
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33 minutes ago, 97and03 said:
Maybe they are just downvoting your personality?
What does my personality have to do with the fact Torrey isnt as good as Adaway? Its just an angry homer who cant come to grips with reality that the best players on the team he cheers for arent getting the desired reps they need.
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Just now, Jonnyeagle said:
Agreed
Thank You!!!! Glad someone else sees it!
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Just now, UNT Five&Dime said:
There’s two Ts in Littrell @GOMeanGO.
Thanks for your expertise on the team though.
Thank you so much for letting me know that, it brought great clarity in regards to the Adaway vs Torrey, and Ruder Vs Aune debate.
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10 hours ago, adman said:
Okay, name them - and then explain why it is not even close.
The down votes send a different message.
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Just now, MeanGreenTexan said:
No one is saying this. Please show me where anyone has said this. You're the only person arguing this. We're all very excited about Adaway's future. Obviously Littrell is too if he's tinkering with putting Torrey in the slot so both Adaway & Torrey are on the field at the same time (yet Adaway will be the RB. Torrey is the one moving around).
No one is doing this. Please show me where anyone has said they hope Aune wins over Ruder. Again, around here, we want what's best for the Mean Green. If it's Aune, it's Aune. If it's Ruder, it's Ruder.
No one is saying this. Please show me where anyone has said this. Again, this is an argument you are having with yourself.
The person Downvoting this, is saying it! Actions are words Ohh Great one!
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26 minutes ago, PlummMeanGreen said:
I like your style--keep posting. Don’t let OldDenton & the fossils get you down. They are all running for the coveted 🏆 “GMG Poster of the Year” award while most of them still show an unusual propensity to never let this athletic program ever grow past the eras they attended NTSUNT.
•••I will add that I am a big Torrey fan, albeit I understand where you’re coming from. 😊❇️🦅❇️
I really want to know the idiot who truly believes Aune is a better Option than Ruder, and that Torrey is a better short yardage back than Adaway and that Pirtle is better than Jake Roberts! I really would like to know who that Homer is! I see you keep downvoting all my posts, who are you? Explain why a 5'7 Torrey is a better short yardage back than the 6'0 200 pound Adaway. Id love to hear the argument. I need a good laugh today.
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Just now, MeanGreenTexan said:
They're both practicing with the 1's.
That's good! Competition is always good... for whoever wins the job. Be it Aune, or Ruder!Ruder needs to be the starter, if he blows it stick in Aune, because at that point there is nothing else to lose. Being ok with status quo is not ok here! Mason Fine is the expectations we need to have here.
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Just now, MeanGreenTexan said:
Again, color me skeptical that you're a 2012 alumnus. If so, welcome to GMG.com... 9 years later! What do you think about the O-Line? D-Line? Will the secondary improve?
I don't know of anyone who says Torrey is better than Adaway around here. I think you're arguing with yourself on that thread.And your only evidence that Ruder is better than Aune is Sam Howell's ability & Ruder's 2018 High School 247 ranking. Neither mean jack squat here & now.
Why does it matter when I join this forum ohh Ancient One? Are you the keeper of the proverbial gate here? I earned a Gerontology and Sociology Major at UNT, and often considered a masters. Nah I am not arguing with myself on that post, its obvious by the down votes of me saying Adaway is better than Torey, that there are plenty of homers here, who cant see real talent when it hits the field. I guess some arent tired of those half yard carries by Torrey on 4th down that lead to turnover on downs. No Evidence? Name one QB outside of possibly Spencer Rattler who could beat out Sam Howell as a starting QB? You are such a homer man! I get it that you like the status quo with Aune, but for the sakes of the us fans and the team, you need to pray Ruder is as good as people say he is. Aune isnt the answer now or ever. Mason Fine is the expectation that is now set at UNT. Not Mcnulty.
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3 minutes ago, MeanGreenTexan said:
Don't back down now!! 😂
Also, Aune committed pretty early to TCU in 2011 and was widely known to be a baseball stud. He wasn't pursued as hard out of high school (again, we're talking about high school, which means absolutely nothing with transfers) because schools knew he was a risk to show up on campus.
Look, I think just about everyone here knows Littrell is on the hot seat. He's not going to torpedo his career to prop up Austin Aune's career. If Ruder comes in and beats him for the job, he'll do it fair & square. If he doesn't, it's because he's not as good as Aune in Littrell's/Bloesch's/Mainord's/Joseph's eyes.Considering Ruder is getting first team reps right now instead of Aune, I am confident to say the Austin Aune days could and should be over. I wouldnt go down on a sinking ship with a QB who got a majority of his points in second half play when the game was out of hand and scoring really didnt matter. I get people are homers here and dont like change, but change is needed to win. Torrey should not be getting more carries than Adaway, Pirtle should not be getting more reps than Roberts, and Aune should not be starting over Ruder. If any of these things happen, then Litrell might as well fire himself for making bad decisions.
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Just now, PlummMeanGreen said:
I like your style--keep posting. Don’t let OldDenton & the fossils get you down.
••• They are all running for the coveted 🏆 “GMG Poster of the Year” award while most of them still show an unusual propensity to never let this athletic program ever grow past the eras they attended NTSUNT.Thank you! I have noticed a trend on this forum! A majority of posters here defend the status quo, and are more homers than actual fans of the team. For Example!
1) Honestly believing or convincing themselves that a 5'7 scat back is better than Adaway who can not only take it to the house on every carry, but can truck people while doing it if need be. Torey is down after initial contact. I get he averages 5.8 yards, but he has a hell of a lot of 1 yard carries and if they arent 1 yard carries, they are 15 to 20 yard carries. His YPC is not the whole story. I cant count on two hands how many times we had a turnover on downs because Torey couldnt gain a yard when we needed it. Adaway will give you at least 3 hard fought yards a carry. He is the kind of back that can make third downs manageable.
2) Aune never was the answer, he played because Bean was awful. Bean was the answer till he screwed it all up. If Aune is the best we can do we are in serious trouble as a team. People who honestly are cheering for Aune over Ruder succeeding have lost their ever loving mind.
3) Defending why Pirtle should start over guys like Jake Roberts and Asher Alberding. I get the love for Pirtle but Jake Roberts ceiling is clearly higher than all three of these kids, and deserves the reps at TE.
4) Our defense is bad! But who really cares because we only score points in the 2nd half of play when we are getting blown out of games anyhow. I mean is it because Aune is any good, or is it because teams have taken their foot off the gas pedals on us? I think Aunes stats were severely inflated.
5) People need to realize for two straight years Ruder did lose his job to Howell, and he didnt want to be a backup, he wanted to play. What better way then to showcase your skills at a college who runs a similar offense to Oklahama where Mayfield, Murray and Rattler are playing? Id come to UNT over a school like Kansas State, Kansas or Arkansas. Think of all the offensive guys we had recently that are now playing on Sundays? You can say many things about Litrell, but finding and putting skilled position receivers on offense isnt one of his problems.
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15 hours ago, Cr1028 said:
You’ve been here all of a couple of hours. If Jace Ruder is legit, he won’t need you as his hype man. We will see. You don’t know jack squat about North Texas quarterbacks dual threat or otherwise. The only thing you know is that your son/brother/friend never had the starting job at UNC and fell behind younger players on the depth chart. He needed a place to resurrect his career because Mack Brown no longer needed his services. He chose North Texas because he thought it would be easy. Trust me, it won’t be. He will have to earn every step, if he doesn’t, he can transfer back out like the 12th ranked 247 pro-style quarterback from 2011 did after he sucked here.
I am a 2012 Alumni of UNT! I know as much if not more about UNT football than you do. Especially the Litrell era, considering I have attended every single game at Apogee since his hiring. All I see is a bunch of dudes arguing to keep the status quo instead of wishing this team take the best step toward winning. Aune is not the answer, and Torrey isnt the best RB on the team, its painful truths only homers cant come to grips with. Its no different than defending why Pirtle should be starting over Asher and Jake. There is a huge difference between being a fan and a homer.
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7 hours ago, UNTLifer said:
Who?
By the way, it is Adaway.
Adaway and Johnson are better short yardage backs than Torrey, the only problem is if you play Torrey on every down and only put Johnson and Adaway in the game on short yardage, defenses know what we are doing. I dont know why we dont move Torrey to the slot and call it a day, he is a 5'7 undersized scat back.
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9 hours ago, adman said:
Okay, name them - and then explain why it is not even close.
Have you seen Adaway run? And Johnson is built like a Sherman tank. Torrey is an undersized scat back.
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9 hours ago, NorthTexasSportsNetwork said:
Don't get me wrong here, I absolutely love Ruder and what he has to bring, BUT Aune is not a leather shoe (IYKYK)
He gained 1 year of crucial experience with the offense, and has the chemistry with some of the guys . Let's not forget he didn't have a QB coach, who was wrongfully accused, to help him progress through 2020. If anything, Aune is one of the top QBs in CUSA. Not that high of a bar, but he is a good QB.
I'm not a Aune homer nor Ruder homer, I just want consistency and winning. If Aune does that, awesome! If Ruder does that, awesome!
To make you feel better, I ran a poll on my Instagram and Ruder had 150 votes to Aune's 135.
I dont understand the love for a Kid who isnt that good, and why they would rather him see action than a guy who was clearly more sought after out of HS. Ruder deserves every shot at PT, we know what Aune can and cant do. We have no clue what Ruder can do.
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2021 Predictions
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If littrell fails to play Roberts or Adaway the way he should be doing then he doesnt have to worry about them staying anyhow. I see Ruder as a guy who wants to stay and play in a system that could get him NFL looks. UNT is a friendly offense that can get him to point A to point B. He could be that next Trey Lance so to speak. I have high expectations for this team, too much talent to not win the division this year!