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4 hours ago, Hunter Green said:
That's a sobering thought on a Sunday morning. You would think however, that after two consecutive bowl appearances and a tournament championship, that sentiment will change.
To change it, they need to start hitting up recent and soon to be graduates. Get them hooked early and keep them around.
Talk about how just a small $25 donation is not a huge expense, for them but will do a world of good for the program. Also, show and bring in examples of what is has done for programs like TCU (as they moved up) and other programs like Memphis, UH, etc..
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On 4/7/2018 at 9:28 AM, GMG24 said:
#clueless
Look at Wilson's Production vs a RB like Lamar Hunt.. The difference in production is night and day.
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53 minutes ago, jtm0097 said:
BTG that is completely wrong. Do some research before posting.
Alfred Morris ran a 4.67 at the combine in 2012.
Kareem Hunt ran a 4.62 last year.
I also posted the RBs times from 2015-2017. His time is pretty solid.
https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/2/22/8087311/nfl-combine-2015-results-running-backs-melvin-gordon
Alfred Morris was a 1 scheme guy, who like the the Franchise QB the Redskins drafted that year, saw a huge decline in production once Kyle Shannon left.. FYI- Kyle Shannon has done a world of good in places like ATL and SF. Morris played 12 games each year he was at FAU, and rushed over 230+ all 3 years he played (outside of his first year where he played 11 but only had 7 touches). Morris had 2 years of over 250. Morris is now a 2nd/3rd string guy who only got a vast majority of his playing time this year because DMac was cut/injured and Zeke was suspended, remember Morris was a 7th Rd Pick by Washington.
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/alfred-morris-1.html
Kareem Hunt played in 13 games his SR year, and then 10 games each his Sophmore and Jr. Year and 11 his Freshman Year for a grand total of 42 games compared to Wilsons 42. Hunt outgained Wilson in rushing yards to the amount of 4945 to 3322.. For a difference of 1623 yards (and only played 2 more games). Hunts best season his SR year, he played in all 13 games and accounted for 303 total touches for 1878 yards and 11TD for 6.2 yd per touch. Hunt finished his career with 855 total touches, 5500 total yards, 45 TDs to Wilson's 630 total touches, 3849 total yards and 34 TDs.
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/kareem-hunt-1.html
Jeffery Wilson's Link is a different site because the Sports Reference only had his Senior year...
https://www.footballdb.com/college-football/players/jeffery-wilson-wilso0265
(Wilson's Sports Reference for Proof)
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/jeffrey-wilson-2.html
Again, Morris was a system guy for the Redskins and one that has seen his production decline ever year till this past season which he went from 200+ yards in Season 1 with the Cowboys to 500+ in Season 2 (only because McFadden was released and not picked up by anyone and Zeke was suspended.). Morris has had more success than UNT RB at the next level in the past 10 years.
Hunt had more tape, played in a better conference (Yes the Mac is better than conference), and is a team that had 3 players in 2017 alone, and a total of 7 since we had our last player drafted in 2004. As the numbers show, Hunt was a MUCH more productive RB in college as well. Just look at the difference in terms of Rushing totals and the numbers of games played. Scouts saw enough of Hunt from his tape that his combine numbers did not affect him.. With Wilson's history, he needed to wow at the pro-day and on tape is the point I was making..
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Talking about money brought in.. FAU moves back a money game vs Illinois to now play Minnesota in 2020 and they get paid $1.2M
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Just going to say.. Preston left a ton to be desired.. believe he had multiple bonehead plays vs Iowa in the 2nd half and during Troy he even got replaced..
I think a major question is how/who slots into the DB group from this recent class.
K.Davis is an LB now (likely on the inside to replace EJ), Gibbs, Williams, Crosby, Morris? Would love to see Gibbs at CB, having a taller, willing to tackle guy on the edge is something we need.. Williams is a great FS/Centerfielder and his size could be his biggest disadvantage. Morris seems to be that Rover spot to challenge T. Davis and Crosby and he anything on the skill positions.
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On 4/2/2018 at 9:13 AM, GMG24 said:
I really wish people realized that 4.5 is really a good time for just about any skill kid. That is a laser time, not the standard bs HS hand time they get at a camp, or by their HS coach. I'd be willing to bet we have maybe 5 kids in our whole program who could run a sub 4.6 40 laser time.
4.56 plus his build.. which is lighter than 220 is not a great time.. his injury history as well..
On 4/1/2018 at 9:21 PM, MGNation92 said:For reference, that would've be tied for the 13th fastest time for combine RB's. 13th out of 32
Tied for 13th.. so he is middle of the pack, with a multiple leg injuries, and a bad shoulder.. playing at a lighter weight and couldn’t hold up in CUSA vs lighter competition compared to the NFL
On 4/1/2018 at 12:54 AM, Monkeypox said:I don't think it will. Draft stock really relies on a lot more than the 40. If he had run really bad or really well, they're d have to go back to the tape and re-assess. This was middle-of-the-pack, so I don't think it means a lot.
The point is he was middle of the road.. he likely needed people to go back and rewatch his tape because of the number or injuries. I’m going to guess not many teams ran through Apogee this year.
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Let’s hope that 4.56 for Wilson doesn’t hurt his stock
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Time to up the donations then and get more people on board!
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Ive said it before and will again.. if Wilson somehow does not end up making it to playing on Sundays and Mondays, he needs to be offered a job on the staff.
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9 hours ago, untjim1995 said:
In some of these cases, a good agent will have their client apply for a job that they have no chance of getting, but then gets to the AD and President of the current school to say that his client has been mentioned as a candidate for the head coaching vacancy at P5 schools. Voila, a new extension and a raise...for both coach and the agent.
Tennessee's head coaching search was a cluster, no doubt. But they weren't hiring a Derek Dooley 2.0 starter kit in Seth Littrell or Frank Wilson. They weren't getting some lower G5 coach with little to no skins on the wall to take over a program that is competing in the SEC. Littrell's next head coaching gig will be at Tech if we have a good year and Tech has the year ahead that we all believe they will.
Another very real possibility would be KU, where Beaty is severely failing and although he signed an extension last year, its peanuts compared to most schools. KU has money and Beaty's contract is more G5 than anything else.
If KU wanted to invest then they would have to double or triple what they are currently playing their HC.. the last I saw he was 1.6 (the KU HC) compared to SL around 1.1..
yes 500K is a lot but is it worth it going to a place like KU who does not take football serious? Stay at UNT build dominate in a region that has a ton of money and go from there
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1 hour ago, chrisfisher said:
That would be Pit Crew days during JJ era, which I was a proud member of while a student there.
Hope you come back on Friday and show and join in with the current pit crew
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14 hours ago, MrStrange18 said:
I cannot make it due to some conflicts. Excited to see what the turnout is. If it goes to game 3, I WILL be taking off work early to head to Denton!
GMG!!
See you Friday...
tweet at WB asking if he will still pay for fans first game tickets like he offered during the season.. would love to see even larger crowd tonite
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1 hour ago, UNTLifer said:
And winning the way we did, they should all be back and bring a friend!
Feel like we should start a gofundme and have a GMG sponsored tailgate/pregame party to feed students for them to go to the game!
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2 hours ago, TIgreen01 said:
Rhule is in a no win situation. And many of the responses here prove it.
You think? The dude interviewed twice to go coach the Indy Colts, he knows the writing is on the wall and is wanting out
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Do they only have the lower section open? pushing everyone to the bottom?
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23 hours ago, Matt from A700 said:
Was there any explanation as to why it was expected SF would have homecourt advantage until UNT tweeted the opposite a few days ago?
No idea how but one thing may be that USF has been the home team for every games so far (according to the CBI bracket). UNT has been on the road for 1... It allows both teams to potentially have the same number of home/away games.
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3 hours ago, Wookies said:
I thought Greg White looked good. I'd like to see a set with Guyton, Bussey and White on the field at the same time. Bussey looked bigger/stronger than last year. Novil made some good plays on the d-line as did Siggers at safety.
Rico did look thicker. novil put up solid stats. Hope he can have a breakout year.
Missed out on Siggers, and RJ Reynolds. They were 2 kids I wanted to watch.
Agree on the White, Rico, Guyton Package. I would love to see us get Guyton in motion and run him on drags to help him beat press. I’m still dreaming of them adding Shorter to the White, Rico, Guyton group.
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Does CBS 11 have a lot of UNT grads working there? I see we get more love from CBS11 than any other channel.
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3 hours ago, North Texas Shep said:
My daughter wanted a pic with everyone. We had the best time. The team and the staff did a fantastic job creating a fun, exciting, and family friendly environment. Dilly Dilly!
She should have asked to sign Masons Cast lol, but also great news it was fun!
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2 minutes ago, Cooley said:
This may have been mentioned previously, but I don't think there is a difference between Nic Smith and DeAndre Torrey. Would have been nice if the department could have had rosters available for a spring game. There wasn't anything that stood out other than the Fine/Guyton connection. Smallest attendance I've seen in years. Happy to see work well underway for Mean Green Track & Field. So much activity taking place today. Soccer, softball, spring game and some event at the Pit.
Agree on not having the programs/roster numbers sucked.
Did anyone see Micheal Lawerence? I thought was #7 but never saw a #7.
Attendence was a lot better than last years game. It will only keep improving.
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I thought EJ was going to be a RS senior next season?
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Hope the staff and the coaches make a special effect to reconnect with Riley. Would be a great thing because he has first hand experience of how much the Football program has progressed.
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2 minutes ago, southsideguy said:
how old is he these days? i wish him nothing but the best in his new job.
27 or 28
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21 hours ago, meangreenJW said:
I think it's three things.
1) The biggest factor is lack of success. The numbers in the new book are "annual fund donations" and don't include capital gifts (facilities, etc.). The majority of annual funds gifts (MGSF formerly MGC) will be required commitment for seats and parking. Lack of success = lack of tickets sold = low demand for premium seats and parking and thus the required donations.
2) Low prices - While there was a lot of chirping on some of the donation changes, it's a double whammy when you sell less tickets and are at the bottom in donations required for those tickets.
3) Lack of a strategy - I've received, seen, heard, etc. more about the MGC/MGSF this year than all years combined. Tweets, facebook posts, emails, on field presentations, etc. I don't recall seeing many (any) before this year. Constantly preaching that MGSF supports student-athletes combined with success will build the base.
There are numerous other factors (the mentioned lack of pride, institutional culture, etc) but in my opinion these factors are the primary contributors.
What I appreciate is the new regime doesn't hide from the numbers. I felt like RV hid how low they were. This group seems to put it out there at every opportunity. It's a not so subtle step the heck up message.
I feel like the numbers comes out is meant to show the fan base how much help is needed. It puts pressure on the fan base in a good way. For people that do care, it should show that even a small 1 time donation every year for $20 bucks helps.
2 hours ago, SteaminWillieBeamin said:I think this AD is making a big mistake trying to milk his known donors instead of actively trying to get new donors (game attendees).
If the club level family with four seats is already paying $4000+ a year to go to 5 games (+1 Liberty type school 'game') -- I really think they are barking up the wrong tree. I know of a couple families that dropped out this year since the cost outweighs any benefits. Any time they have extra tickets, they can't even give them away.
It’s not going after people who donate.. it’s presenting people who do donate with information for them.
If I get a letter and it shows that .03% of Alumni donate, when I do meet up with friends and we talk about UNT or a friend comes with me to a game, that is when someone who does donate says hey you should look into donating.. Word of month from me to you is far more effective than a random Facebook post or tweet.
Also, presenting those numbers to donors should not annoy them. It’s meant for the season ticket holders who aren’t members to see the benefits and see how much of a difference it can make.
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lean green
in Mean Green Football
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While I agree it is a lack of interest, that has somewhat turned around. The Marketing of Events (and promotions) has greatly increased. I do not recall SL''s first season stilling MacBooks, 1k donations to student organizations, etc at football games or stuff like the free parking passes for your career at UNT, apple watches, etc like they did during the CBI.
Students that are in denton, need a reason to go to the games. The success of the team will lead to better results. We saw the attendance increase throughout the season for the most part. We just have to hope that it carries over and that the product on the field improves. If we can start rolling teams like FAU did last year, it will make the games more fun drawing more people and students. Hell, if i was UNT you break out all the stuff you can to keep students on campus during game weekends.. Open Cafeterias on campus all weekend or something so kids have 1 less excuse to go home or do tailgates, etc. to get the students to stay in Denton instead of going home and let it grow. Or if they do go home to someplace close, make it so they can come back with their parents and have a good time!
Another thing, I have seen guys like on this board offer to students like @AustinFromUNT and others to come join their tailgate for free food, drinks, etc.. Heck Austin was even on the sideline for a game or 2 this past season. Doing more stuff like that for students will keep them engaged and having good memories leading to them coming back.