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  1. I think the bigger questions are why do the students and alumni not care or loathe the existence of the program, as well as what would it take to make the people change to caring…

    We are never going to see a change in the value proposition for the students here. It’s a money making machine. And money that is made today, not many tomorrows down the road that nobody is really worrying about in academia funding. The music and arts window will always be our main focus because it is known throughout the country and world in those circles and it costs very little to run. 
     

    So the next question is what would drive people to love this place and want to come back to see a game. I’ve come to the belief that marketing on this needs to be a two-fer—Green Brigade and a game. You gotta meet these people where they are. If this is what the university is, then promote the heck out of it and get the arts/music folks out for shows and concerts that are lined up in the concourse. Have concerts after games. Think of what that does to Denton’s arts and music scene that is beloved by these people.

    Quite honestly, if that doesn’t work, nothing will at the point.

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  2. 4 hours ago, Side.Show.Joe said:

    We are not Rice. We have a huge alumni base that has forgotten about their alma mater. Our issue with attendance and TV viewership should be a quick fix if we are smart.

    Why do I say this? Because at this moment, UNT football actually has a product to sell that the DFW community and our disenfranchised alumni base will get behind. 

    So here is the plan... 

    Get our athletic department media team to create a commercial promoting the game at FAU and have it run on the local stations all next week. Our game got picked up for ESPN2 in primetime on Saturday. The commercial needs to include imagery of some of the local communities... Signs and water towers type stuff (Denton, Dallas, Fort Worth, and some of the smaller towns too). Highlight our offense stats, and include our most explosive plays this season. Make sure everyone in DFW knows we have the most explosive offense in all of college football. We also need to get the commercial out on X, and have our celebrity alumni retweet it to their fans.

    It will cost some money, but it can only increase our viewership, which would make it worth the expense. If it works, do the same thing for our Memphis game, should it also get picked up for broadcast 

    Or we can just sit around and keep doing what has yet to work.

    I'd venture a guess that this season, more UNT students and alumni watched us play on TV against Tech than will ever attend a game this season in Denton...because they know Tech students and alums. And they saw us losing at halftime by about 40+. 

    Similar to the last several seasons against SMU, the one game that UNT students and alums act like they care about football every year, we would just get annihilated. I mean, not even competitive. So again, we know how it is here in the DFW Metroplex. People care a lot about old SWC teams not named Rice. And when we play them and get manhandled, we lose 90% of the people for the season. Playing Wyoming and Tulsa at home aren't gonna get UNT students or alumni rushing up I-35 to get to those games, in Denton or not. SFA did better because we know people who went to SFA, we don't now many students or fans of Wyoming, Tulsa, or most of the AAC's teams. 

    What I've come to is that bitching about attendance is a losing proposition. If fans don't care to follow our teams, sobeit. But Grant McCandless found a way to win with support that averaged about a third of the Pit's capacity. And he went on to a bigger job. No reason that Morris can't do the same thing, too. But Littrell didn't care about the fans because he was an introvert, McCarney went insane trying to figure out why people don't care about UNT football int eh middle of the most fertile hotbed for the sport in the country, and anyone else before this had to deal with the decrepit toilet known as Fouts to get people to come to a game, while being a mile away from the action.

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  3. Sadly, we crap the bed when we play teams that our students and alumni care about almost every year. When we played SMU, they almost always annihilated us. We play UH or Tech, get absolutely crushed. It gets old. 
     

    But I quit going to games because of the portal. It has ruined college sports for our level of play. Add in the NIL and it’s just not a game I’m meant to be a part of anymore, especially with kids at home.

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  4. 14 hours ago, Meangreen Fight said:

    Yet you know our schedule better than I do?  Make it make sense.  I would never visit a SMU, TCU, Texas Tech, or TAMU board in any season when we weren’t on their schedule.  Popularity doesn’t mean you have a quality team on your schedule.  Talking heads and Vegas odds makers are just selling product with their rankings & odds.  We see upsets like Norte Dame getting knocked off by Northern Illinois every season.  The upper echelons of SEC & Big 10 avoid playing the better G5 programs like the plague.  Then hype beating the mediocre members of their conference that get beaten by them.  More fans nationally probably always want to see Cowboys teams slightly below 0.500 than an undefeated Seattle team but that doesn’t mean the Cowboys are better. 🙄

    He’s been banned on most of those boards. He’s admitted it. So he has found the one place that won’t ever ban him and he comes on here to talk noise against us, since he knows they have scoreboard on us. 
     

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. He’s the guy who leases an apartment and still drives by homeless people and laughs.

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  5. The thing with SMU is that they also get this weird kind of sympathy from the CFB media for the Death Penalty. Even though it was well earned and well deserved, the media, both local and national act like it was just terrible. 


    It’s like people thinking Bonnie and Clyde were some kind of heroes for robbing banks.

     

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  6. On 9/29/2024 at 5:16 PM, Rudy said:

    Hell, while driving up to the tt watching party, I was listening to the ticket. They were reading off all of the local teams and their upcoming games for the day. Well, not really ALL of the local teams. 

    On Tuesdays during the CFB season, the Ticket covers the big games of interest. At the very, very end of the segment on the morning show, if UNT is mentioned, which is about 50%, it’s George givng his opinion in about 10 seconds, which is 10 more than the afternoon show gives us. Again, the entire program exists in the giant shadow of power schools and we can barely get a mention. We lost the one game that matters to these people so I guess that does it for UNT football coverage for the entire year. 

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  7. The local DFW media is just all in for both SMU and TCU to do well. I think it’s actually because so many are alums here of UNT, but it embarrasses them. The other day, for example, on the Ticket, with both George Dunham and Craig Miller listening to their guest, Brian Jones, the CBS Sports college guy they have on weekly, Jones called us North Texas State, as in Texas Tech murdered North Texas State. Neither of those guys even corrected it, just kept listening. 
     

    Think of the average North Texas grad. They probably don’t even care or follow our teams. They probably loathe the existence of the program that they had to pay for as a student, which they are still paying on. If they like sports, they’re all in on some Power Team. And the ones in DFW have some dream that they wished of going somewhere like SMU or TCU. It is what it is…

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  8. The whole thing is eventually going to burn itself down. Wait until the next Great Recession hits…that money is going to dry up for NIL. Right now, middle class folks that think their school needs funds for better players are already being squeezed out by the cost of attending the games. Soon enough, the higher net worth folks at these G5s are going to bail when they realize this isn’t helping their school out in any significant way.

    The top 30-50 schools that want to be NFL-little schools and run like that just need to go away. And leave the rest of us to have a setup that looks and acts like amateurish college football. 

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  9. My guess is that UNLV will accept this deal and go to the Pac to get to 8 for football and 9 for hoops, with Gonzaga also joining. That will leave the MWC with Hawaii, San Jose State, Wyoming, AFA, Nevada, and UNM. If I'm the MWC, I quickly add UTEP and NMSU and just buy time to see what else they can do in the years ahead. And CUSA will just add in some more FCS teams out East to their league.

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  10. The very best thing that could happen to college sports is for NIL too bankrupt it. Then, you can get back to playing actual amateurish sports again. I don't think anyone minds the idea of a supplemental income of some sort, but having the universities pay players directly and boosters to do it as well is just gross. These players suing from decades past knew what the situation was when they took the scholarship and the exposure at these schools. But if I really want this all to burn down, then I guess I should root for the Fab Five and Reggie Bush to win their cases.

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  11. 6 minutes ago, NT80 said:

    Sorry Admins...this needs to be on the Football forum!   

    Great news for us to stay the top G5 conference....

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    This really isn’t that surprising to me. These AAC teams have a bird in hand, so to speak. Travel is mostly regional and within one time zone of each other. The PAC can add in UNLV, Utah State, and maybe even New Mexico and Nevada, too. It’d be a solid regional league out west, dropping off dead weight from the MWC and adding in the two left behinds in OSU and WSU.

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