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From 1943-2022, Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee Georgia, Florida, Clemson, FSU, Miami, Penn State, Notre Dame, Michigan, Ohio State, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Texas, and USC have won the AP/CFP all but 9 titles.
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5 minutes ago, southsideguy said:
my four win season I predicted is endanger of meeting expectations. Do we have a 90 day probation period for new employees? Morris better wise up and do something about the DC coordinator because his job depends on it.
I predicted 4-8 at the beginning of the season and I would gladly take that RIGHT NOW if we could do that. I'm praying we get to 2 wins at this point.
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Gary Patterson was who I advocated for this time a year ago. It didn't happen. Morris isn't leaving for at least 2 seasons, at a bare minimum. GP would get a lot of interest, no doubt. And I think getting his batteries recharged would help him if he wants to coach again.
BUt we have no idea if he wants to do that again, if he wants to engage in this new portal and NIL world, and most importantly, when considering the last part, we have no idea if he would even consider coming here to coach, since we have no money or following, as compared to what he was used to at TCU and when compared to almost every other FBS team in the region.
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La Tech will win a close one--like 52-45
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9 minutes ago, GoMeanGreen1999 said:
We, the fans are talking about it, but administration is not discussing this. Heck the moderators here took down a thread about it. We could go 0-12 or 1-11 and he won't be fired.
It would cost too much to fire someone after 1 year of a longer deal, even if Morris isn’t highly paid. This ain’t SMU where alums can write checks to get rid of coaches, get into conferences, and pay for players.
If you want to get the best idea going forward, it’s for the program to honestly see if it can do anything in the next 3 years under Morris and if it can’t, like we are Dodge 2.0 again and we win like 6 games in the next three years, I think we need to seriously ask ourselves if FBS is in our best interests.
We moved up in 1995, not because we wanted to win, but because we could make more whoring out ourselves. Then, as the university grew and we could get students to pay for the stadium and majority of the program’s funding, we moved up budget-wise to a nice G5 program. But it just doesn’t translate on the field. 6 winning seasons out of 28 seasons. Maybe FCS in today’s environment would just be better for us.
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6 minutes ago, Rudy said:
Yes. It is absolutely a culture problem. Every few years, a new coach has a name win, that SHOULD be a springboard for the program. But, no, inevitably the shit hits the fan, and we spiral back down to the abyss. We hire a new coach, and the cycle continues.
It's time to flush the whole culture down the shitter. Find the root of the cancer, and cut it out of the UNT body.
Apathy is a cancer…and it’s all over the organs of the patient.
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2 minutes ago, MGNation92 said:
The University of North Texas - seen by most as a commuter campus for kids in DFW, seen as a last option for kids who don’t get into Texas or A&M or OU, seen as a jazz/music and liberal arts school. We have no traditions, no history of winning, no sports culture, no emphasis on student participation and school spirit. Majority of students go to school, get their degree, and get the hell out of Denton, never to return again and right back to their UT/A&M/OU t-shirt fandom with their parents
None of these things make us a desirable location for winning coaches. None of these things make students want to donate after they graduate, none of these things make people want to buy season tickets or go to games.
@SilverEagle talks about how Hayden Fry was the last HC/AD to try to do this, to try and establish an athletic identity in the university, to make students and alum proud of their football team. That was 50 YEARS AGO.
None of this will get better until Smatresk and more importantly, Mosley force a culture of athletics and athletic support. We’re diehards here on GMG but most graduates aren’t here and aren’t us. Until we find an athletic identity, nothing will get better, nobody is going to donate, and everybody will continue to say “looks like we suck again, same ole UNT”. Seth Littrell, as it stands, is our ceiling in football, because nobody cares and our administration for DECADES has done nothing to change it. I seriously respect the big money donors that annually light millions of dollars on fire in a waste to support this. I can completely understand why they dropped to FCS in the first place. Did it set us back decades? Absolutely. But that administration saw it, and they gave up. What will this administration do? Tread water like the last 50 years? Or will they step up and actually do something to show we, as a university, give a shit about having quality athletics programs. Basketball is our one saving grace, and Tony Benford nearly destroyed it all on his own. The problem is, we’re in Texas, and unless we’re consistently making Sweet 16’s or better, nobody’s gonna care about that either. The Maniacs are the one thing I’ve seen in my 10 years as a fan that have tried to instill any kind of pride and spirit in an athletic program. Outside of that? It’s crickets.
Until we fix the underlying problems of our administration that have been festering for half a century, nothing will matter, and nobody but us salty diehards will care.
Yep.
Remember that Cerebus showed a graph during the RV days that Wren Baker also showed in his days as AD that UNT alums don’t give in any decent way, like 2% at most give back to athletics. I’d imagine it’s that way for the rest of the school, too, to be honest.
I’ll be interested to see how things are here in the 2030s and beyond, though. Our alumni since 2011 have seen us at least try to have a legitimately funded program. And Denton has turned into a place where students do want to go instead of settling on going there because it was cheap and close. Maybe that will help with giving from alumni in the next 5+ years ahead?
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1 hour ago, Rudy said:
Hey, as long as the game was good, and it was enjoyable, Thats all that matters. Let's also make sure everyone gets playing time because they all work so hard during practice, and their parents are at the game.
The score doesn't matter. Everyone is a winner in the end....
Remember when Chico used this exact philosophy in our season ender against UTEP in 2015? He let Josh Greer play at QB since it was the last game of an abysmal season and he threw a Pick Six (shocker) that ended up costing us the chance at actually winning a game…
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Just now, NorthTexasWeLove said:
From your mouth to all the naysayers to the FACT we should invest our resources to basketball and quit pretending to play football at the D1 level.
Field your football team.
Invest your money into basketball.
Let's be the KU of the AAC.
Any other decision is foolish.
The only thing that keeps me from going to quit football is the naive notion that college football here gives young men a chance at a free education to hopefully better themselves with in the future. Literally, it’s the only thing. But it’s a damn big one.
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We are now 128-205 since we moved up to I-A (FBS) in 1995.
That’s with 7 head coaches, 4 conferences, and 2 stadiums.
In the end, I guess we shouldn’t be surprised. We have 6 winning seasons since then. We have won 9 games in 4 seasons as our best record and we have had 1 year with 8 wins. That’s it.
Sad, but it’s our truth.
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4 minutes ago, BBA1989 said:
Wow, and ya’ll lost to Rice.
Rice beat a Dodge team 77-20, when they scored that in three quarters and just gave us mercy after that.
Rice will murder us this year.
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2 minutes ago, MeanGreenTexan said:
So is 0-12.
ACU is better than FIU.
I just want to reiterate…. We beat FIU last year 52-14, in a year that got Seth Littrell fired as a failure.
He has to be laughing.
Wow. Can’t wait for Mosley & the staff to continue circling their wagons, ostracizing the fans even further after this abysmal performance that was EERILY familiar to Dodgeball.
Littrell is also laughing with his buyout we gave him…
We know Morris will be here for at least 2 more years. It’s gonna be a tough ride if he is indeed Dodge 2.0.
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4 minutes ago, TheNewEra said:
I keep saying to myself daily, we’re a basketball school…
There’s nothing wrong with that. Wichita State hasn’t been hurt by leaving football behind..
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2 minutes ago, NT91 said:
8k at the ACU game.
Is ACU bringing a few thousand fans? Because there won’t be 5k in butts in seats for that game.
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I had us at 4-8 this season, but this was supposed to be one of them.
1-11 is very possible…
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This really is reminding me Of Dodge’s first season. Get drilled by a P5 in the opener, then follow up the next week with a huge defensive letdown even though we scored a ton.
Im sure the next 4 years will go better…right?
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33 minutes ago, TreeFiddy said:
Desperate times call for desperate measures.
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6 hours ago, Mike Jackson said:
When it comes to Dodge vs Dickey it is just inaccurate not to take into account the stadium upgrade. And boring winning with all other things being equal will always outdraw losing. If we roll out back to back 11 win seasons of like UTSA did doesn't matter what offense we run. As for McCarney vs Littrell, I think people were just more hopeful because we had everything in place to win with an offensive mind at the helm. I don't think it mattered that he was Air Raid, just having a complete passing game as a part of your offense was sufficient for more excitement.
Dodge and Dickey both only coached at decrepit Fouts.
And Dodge’s teams inexpicably outdrew Dickey’s teams during our SBC run.
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30 minutes ago, Mike Jackson said:
Consequently I don't think we are in tgf AAC today without that horrible sequence of events and Seth's tenure making it appear we were building. Hell he signed a 5 year extension in 2014! They might have continued his tenure into the 2016 with any sign of life from the team. That is the stuff of nightmares. A bad offense is one thing, boring and bad offense while losing is horrendous to live through.
Dickey and DMac both had similar offenses, which was have a running game and a bus driver for a QB. If that bus driver was good (Scott Hall, Derek Thompson), they tended to do well against conference foes. When we didn’t, it was just awful football.
Same could be said for these Air Raid offenses, where a legit QB makes the entire difference, but offense puts butts in seats, which is why we drew better under Dodge than we did under Dickey, why Littrell’s teams outdrew McCarney’s even after our HoD win. Boring won’t work here, but we go the polar opposite route and then can’t stop anyone and lose big too.
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1 hour ago, Mike Jackson said:
100% truth here and no amount downvoting eye rolling reactions to it will make it less true. It also won’t stop our football program from being relegated to a new lower level FBS wilderness when it is created. When that happens I will be very upset aim my verbal fire at “the off my lawn” fans and alumni. 🤷🏽♂️.
I believe PSU did us a favor beating down that Mean Green Team thar quit on Coach McCarney. Otherwise they would have finished out the year with him and probably missed the opportunity to hire a candidate as “good” as Seth. But they let Dodge and Littrell languish too long and that is main reason UTSA surpassed us.
That Portland State game did us no favors. Don’t care if it got DMac and eventually RV canned. Losing by 59 points, at home, to a FCS school, on Homecoming, was as embarrassing a moment as any school has ever had.
Was getting SL and Wren Baker worth going thru that? Not to me…
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I don’t read newspapers anymore. But I do know that the sports talk guys and their DFW media guests from the newspapers and Tv stations all act like SMU deserves to be a power school because of their money and name recognition.
Very annoying.
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The SWC bit just floors me. That conference ended in 1995. It’s 2023 and people act like SMU should be included. I’ll tell you the truth. They deserve what Rice has become. Same situation as Rice, but their culture is surrounded by paying for football success, while Rice lets academics to the talking. Rice, Tulane, Tulsa, and SMU are all the same. But the SMU Death Penalty is some kind of romantic ideal to the CFB media. It shouldn’t be—Pony Excess showed it perfectly. They flat out cheated blatantly worse than anyone else and their pissant school was the perfect piñata for the NCAA to bust into pieces. That anyone makes that time some great penalty for SMU didn’t live here during those days. We all saw firsthand how crooked it all was.
And in perfect societal fashion for the US today, they get rewarded for it.
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1 hour ago, meangreenbob said:
Back in the 70’s I would drive up many times from South Oak Cliff after work on a Friday night to attend a North Texas pep rally. Fry would be on a about 1 foot high small wooden platform on the south side of Kerr Hall encouraging the 80 or so fans to support the team at Saturdays game. This was at a time when many students were pushing to abolish the football program. I would drive up again Saturday for the game by myself because I couldn’t get anyone to go. Same for basketball. Fry is the best Coach this University has ever had bar none and the Administration would not support him. Not at all. He left and is now in the College Hall of Fame
Dr. Hurley a great academic President allowed the school to drop to 1aa football. Many on this board recognize and claim this as the most damaging move the Administration could have ever made and point to this failure as the reason for our lack of real success to this present day.
Helwig banning tailgating and changing our school colors, adding blue and orange.
The Dodge hire and allowing him to bring his high school defensive coordinator and coaches. Enough said.
Trilli, Benford. Enough said
Allowing Rick Villarreal to stick around for 15 years. Enough said
Instead or hiring a young, vibrant enthusiastic head coach we hire an aged coach clearly on his way out, McCarney, and pay a 1.3 million buyout. Or was it 2.3?
We next hire an unproven head coach in Littrell allowing him to learn on the job, get hoodwinked in contract negotiations because of our lack of knowledge and understanding and then can not fire him at a crucial time for the program because of the huge buyout we agreed to.
I’m on this board because I fell in love with NORTH TEXAS the first time I laid eyes on it in the Fall of 1969. I’ve listed a few of the foolish and damaging decisions this Administration has made over the years that has stymied the success of our programs. I’m sure there are more.
You can label me a fatalist if you want, that’s fine, but actually I’m a realist and believe it or not an optimist. I can put on the green glasses and I have at times.
I love this school more than any employee ever will. Most on this board do. But if we want this program to excel beyond our wildest dreams then all of us need to take off the green glasses, see and tell the truth and hold those making huge salaries accountable for failure by not being timid or afraid to speak out and tell it like it is.
I started following the program in 1990 when I came for a visit and then chose it in 1991. I had admittance at UT and TCU, but UNT offered a huge scholarship and I was the first in my family to graduate.
When I graduated in 1995, I was certain that we were finally going to make our way upward to being a legit program to be proud of. Helwig was the AD, Simon and Jankovich were the head coaches when I graduated and just thought we were going to make things happen. But I quickly found out that nobody in Denton or that had UNT degrees really gave two craps about our athletic program. When your circle of friends are Longhorns, Aggies, Red Raiders, Sooners, Horned Frogs, and Bears, it got to be really frustrating
Those fans on here that do care, for whatever reason, find out that nobody in the state that has played football before 2010 in the FBS cares to be associated with us, which also causes frustration. It just gets to be embarrassing. And with no school spirit at all to embrace, alums that somehow graduated and still care just get looked down at by our OWN alumni, much less other schools. One of the most embarrassing moments I ever had was being at a neighborhood party by in 2007, as OU annihilated us 79-10 in Dodge’s first game and a buddy said that if we all had to play UNT in a Marching Band Contest, we’d get our asses kicked like y’all do in sports. It has never gone away, as that moment just gets relived over and over, for the most part.
What I’ve learned to do is just enjoy the rare winning season that rolls around and take it all in. We have two bowl wins and they were amazing. The NIT Championship was really neat, but nobody really cares, if we are being honest. We have absolutely no media interest or care, which follows the sad reality of what Denton has festered for so long. I’ve got a son who is a senior in HS and when it came time for him to apply to colleges, he applied to TCU and Oklahoma State. I asked him why not UNT? And his answer was simple: I like sports and they don’t care. If a 17 year old knows that, what do you think those in their 30’s and forward think? It’s just an unending cycle that gets worse as we watch teams like UTSA surpass almost everything we have ever accomplished in a fraction of the time. And if Texas State keeps improving, we are gonna then start wondering when Sam Houston will surpass us. It’s just a really tough reality to face, year after year.-
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I mean all the sports talk shows all say the same thing about SMU belonging. Literally nothing suggests that makes any sense if you look at SMU over the last 40 years.
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AP Top 10.... Is this boring lineup ruining College Football? It's not parity
in Mean Green Football
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College football knows their brands are surrounding basically about 30 schools. The next 30 are just historically connected to the first 30, although there are a few titles in that group. Their networks want Texas and Alabama, not North Texas and South Alabama.
Them letting North Texas and South Alabama compete for a spot in March Madness and the College World Series for men and women is how they avoid any chance of an antitrust suit. Of course, their grads dominate the judiciary and legislatures, so its not as if they have to worry about that, either.