[Liberty offers C-USA $24 Million to join; C-USA takes a pass]

5 minutes ago, OfficerBennett said:

Kind of answers the question of why Mean Green Club numbers lag behind SMU and TCU despite having tens of thousands more alumni in the Metroplex:  the people already in don't want new members.

Yep. They want to feel real important in their little pond. No criticism allowed. Obvious problems? Just ignore them. For 15 years. Everyone in the AD still the same? It's ok, because Wren's magic zen will amazingly change a culture that took years to ingrain itself.

Small time continues to be small time at UNT. And a lot of folks are perfectly ok with that. 

Meanwhile, schools like Liberty are actually committing to winning athletics. Bet they tan our ass in both meetings. Hell, we probably scheduled them because of the sweet cash deal they gave us...

[SMU Opens As A 12 Point Favorite]

1 hour ago, Ben Gooding said:

Obsess much...? Not sure I'm picking up what you're laying down here. 

Quoted wrong person.

[Liberty offers C-USA $24 Million to join; C-USA takes a pass]

10 minutes ago, Censored by Laurie said:

yup.

so leave. 

Getting there. Keep pushing, club boy.

[SMU Opens As A 12 Point Favorite]

2 minutes ago, MJavierSMU said:

whoa! TCU is not the best basketball program in metroplex. They are catching up to us but we are still more talented than them. We have won four straight and 12/5 should be a helluva game. There is a good chance both teams will be ranked.

As for recruiting - in 2018 we are in on three 4-stars (all with official visits) and Kyler Edwards. 2019 is all about Tyrese Maxey to SMU. We are also going hard after Harmon outta Denton. 

TCU best in the Plex? No. 

They will pass you by this year. Mark it. Larry and is cheating ways are gone, and SMU will revert to its normal place in metroplex basketball. Second out of 3 behind TCU.

[OSU @ South Alabama]

1 hour ago, Magic95Fan said:

USA fans on the Belt board said the game was nearly impossible to get to because the highways were so backed up with Floridian evacuees. 

Details? We don't need no Freaking details!!! And we need to play Lamar all the time!!!!!!!!!!!!!11!!1!

[SMU Opens As A 12 Point Favorite]

31 minutes ago, southsideguy said:

Why waste your time here, TCU is a better team and has better fans.  Why slum around UNT?

Keep pushing and you just might run someone else out of this tight little club you call UNT fandom.

[SMU Opens As A 12 Point Favorite]

On 9/4/2017 at 10:42 AM, Ben Gooding said:

I don't think he's supporting SMU. 

And 90 was at the game on Saturday. 

Obsess much?

I'd also take SMU and give the points if I were a sports betting man. Because I have a logical brain that can separate facts from idiot sports emotion. 

But go ahead and side with the likes of Lifer, who has predicted 8-4 or 9-3 football seasons for the last 20 years running. I mean, that's logical. 

Oh, and did you see Dixon landed another 4 star recruit?

https://clutchpoints.com/tcu-basketball-news-4-star-feron-hunt-commits-horned-frogs/

Man, those games are gonna be fun this year. TCU goes from worst program in metroplex to best while UNT discontinues its program. 'Bout right.

And yes, I still support UNT football.

[Liberty offers C-USA $24 Million to join; C-USA takes a pass]

21 hours ago, All About UNT said:

Why wait?  I'm sure Liberty could use some t-shirt alumni.  The fact that you envy an AD with the former Baylor AD sums it all up for me.  You can pretend that this is all about shitting on them because they are "Christians".  No.........it's because they suck ass at life.  

Another UNT fan trying to run off A fellow fan. All over the fact that their personal politics don't jive with another college.

Lord forbid people be given options on different points of view, right?

Perhaps they think you suck at life. Ever consider that? 

Bottom line, this is sports. Religious affiliation shouldn't even be in the discussion. 

Second bottom line: It always amazes me how UNT fandom is like a private club and how so many, especially on this board, will do everything possible to keep it that way. 

With the support of this board. 

[Group of 17 Explanation]

On 8/9/2017 at 2:40 PM, MeanGreenMailbox said:

Pretty much 100% accurate, except that...he did get Apogee built.  His weakness was hiring coaches. 

But, history will - and, does in the archives here - show that many took RV's side in the Dickey feud.  To this day, there are Darrell Dickey haters among the fan base.  And, many - if not most - lauded his hiring of high school Todd Dodge.  There were many here who thought Dodge should be allowed to coach out his contract. 

Things turned sour after the 2014 football and basketball seasons.  Before that, I think many here were still on his side. 

I credit him with Apogee and upgrading a majority of the other athletic facilities.  No one here can seriously look at the facilities the athletes had in 2001 when he took over and say we are worse off from that standpoint.  He did get the 17 to help immensely in that area.

For better or worse, though, you are going to be judged by the on field performance of the football and men's basketball teams.  It's just that way at the FBS level...and, most other levels.  Outside of Johnny Jones' (RV's first big hire) five year run and Dickey's three years win streak and McCarney's record setting 2013 squad, there wasn't much there. 

Benford and post-2013 McCarney pushed people over the edge...even the 17.

 

It didn't push you over the edge. You defended him to the end, only to suck up to the new guy the minute he stepped on campus.

so much for your loyalty, I guess. 😂😂😂😂

 

Adios, Mofos!

[DRC: UNT athletic department undergoing quiet summer makeover]

5 minutes ago, UNTFan23 said:

Please don't respond to those types of posts.

Right? Just insult, use personal details to intimidate, and walk away.

Another member of Harry's Hit Squad and another reason UNT will always suck. Because you don't care if they win or not. It's kinda the mantra of the UNT fan base.

[DRC: UNT athletic department undergoing quiet summer makeover]

Well, I see I drew out every single loser in Harry's Hit Squad with that post. You guys are so easy.

And to Mark Miller, you are the only one who uses personal information you gain through private conversations on a public message board in failed attempts to intimidate those that disagree with you. It's juvenile, dishonest, and nasty. It's speaks directly to your character.

Keep sucking that UNT ass to feel good about yourself. 

I would be a UNT basketball fan if the had a men's basketball team. They don't. Baker disbanded it last March. 

Go Frogs!!!

As to the rest of the losers in Harry's Hit Squad that love losing so much they defend recruiting football players with no other offers without seeing UNT is headed down a worse road than the DMac driven version, keep lying to fans as attendance and interest dwindles. I mean, you guys couldn't give a crap about winning anyway. All you care about is being a self-perceived big fish in a minute puddle. 

So, go ahead. 

[DRC: UNT athletic department undergoing quiet summer makeover]

6 hours ago, KRAM1 said:

You mean like at TCU and Tarrant County? Those "terribly ineffective" organizations? 😂😂😂

Happens everywhere...you know it...stop trying to always be "that guy" and come enjoy some Mean Green football. It is your university after all.  

Never miss a chance at passive/aggressive shots, do you? Maybe you wanna bring up my past relationships again for messageboards points, eh sport? 

Good thing you never have to worry about ever learning one personal detail about me again, eh? 

And to Grand, any organization that blames failure on mid to low management for self preservation is doomed to failure. Early returns on Baker skew to this conclusion. Hope I'm wrong, but it looks like the same old UNT. 

[DRC: UNT athletic department undergoing quiet summer makeover]

11 minutes ago, KRAM1 said:

Show me an industry or public or private...that does not do this very thing.  Just happened with Lucky Whitehead in the NFL.  Examples are made out of the role players.  But, this happens in the financial services industry, public schools, city governments, airlines, major consumer companies, state governments and within the federal government consistently.  Nothing new here at all.

Not saying it is good or bad...just saying it happens all the time across the board and I would guess you know this already.  Still doesn't make it any easier on those involved.

You are right. It happens all the time. I've seen it happen...

And every single time it was in a terribly ineffective organization.

No difference at the worst AD in America.

[AD Department]

Lol. Ya, you make zero changes to management except for creating another layer and everyone claims major changes.  😂😂. Same people doing the same things will lead to exactly the same result. Already seeing it with the IPF. 

All Baker has done is add a very expensive layer to upper management while producing nothing. 

He has already delayed the IPF shortly after announcing it. Gee, those same guys who didn't do their jobs before still aren't. I mean, that's just shocking, isn't it?

i doubt Baker has the power to fire Hank. I think he was told Hank comes with the job. Typical small time North Texas athletics. 

I've lost almost all rooting interest. I did re-up season tickets and immediately felt a sense of regret. Basketball is dead to me forever. 

You wonder why 99% of alumni walk away? Really?

[DRC: Wren Baker a year into tenure: UNT AD has enjoyed remarkable rise]

7 minutes ago, GMG24 said:

Baseball isn't coming back until the new bball arena isn't built across 35 by the athletic dorms.  Why dump more money into a drain? Baseball will generate 0 revenue, and our sports operated at a deficit last year.  THAT would be bad business.  I would like to see him holding former AD members feet to the fire, but maybe just maybe with a good leader they've gotten their act together? If not then they need to be shown the door and I have a feeling WB will have no problem in doing so. 

Right. A "feeling." Because after one year that's all you have to hold on to.

A feeling. Zero tangible physical proof. None. Zip. Nada. After a year. 

And the point was about unfulfilled promises, not baseball. 

 

[DRC: Wren Baker a year into tenure: UNT AD has enjoyed remarkable rise]

14 minutes ago, BTG_Fan1 said:

You must live in a vacuum... You have no idea the process or what is being done with past personal either, but of course you wanna cry about something

All staff that WB has done in 11 months:

Buying out and hiring GMac,

Bringing multiple new personal for new positions,

Do outreach with recent grads by offering free tickets,

Increase the staffing budget for football,

Announce plans for a new Soccer/Track Stadium,

Have plans coming soon for the IPF and Athletic Center remodel...

Also, under his watch we had the BIGGEST football camp as well with over 1k in athletes that came up to denton

You mean like quarterly meeting plans? Or that new baseball program coming in 2011, er... 2012, er... 2013, er... 2014 plan? 

UNT has long been great at plans, but SEVERLY lacking at actually doing anything. 

This regime is the last regime, just with a new RV. Big plans, no results. That describes all of RV's tenure and all of Baker's first year. Add in zero accountability for the worst athletic department in America, and then tell me how far this has come again? 

But Harry's Hit Squad don't care. If you will remember, to a wet noodle, they all wanted to retain the worst AD in America. And they will fight to retain this one, even if his major sports winning percentage is less than the Hustler's (is that even possible?) after 15 years here.

Last post. Back into exile, mofos!

 

[DRC: Wren Baker a year into tenure: UNT AD has enjoyed remarkable rise]

7 hours ago, Ben Gooding said:

That is absolutely none of your business. Creep. 

Let's not make everything about me. You like doing that. Let's make it about concrete goals for North Texas athletics. Anyone can word anything in their favor. Especially talking in percentages when referring to athletic department improvements given our history. Talk in hard numbers or don't talk about it at all. It creates 0 accountability from the top all the way to the bottom. That is where the Rick reference steps in. Outside of some hard numbered goals that were put out very early in his tenure, he exclusively talked in percentages from there on out. WB, to my knowledge, has put out 0 hard goals. Does he need 2 years to evaluate before this happens?  

Poor Ben.

Here is the lesson to learn on this forum:

No one cares about winning. Expressing an alternate opinion that demands better will get you ridicule and personal insults from Harry's Hit Squad, the same 6 or 7 miserable losers that love losing as long as they get some weird self-importance out of it. 

Havent looked at this board in about a month and the first thread I see is some BS "Wren is a savior" when the guy has done squat his first year.

How many AD employees have been held accountable? Zero. Nitardy? Still sucking it up. Hank? Still as self important as always. 

Baker has shown to be no different than RV in any aspect. 

Same ole UNT.

Adios, loser Mofos. 

[DRC: Baker reaches out to core boosters, fans via e-mail]

37 minutes ago, Cerebus said:

 

Well if it wasn't you, you should change your password because someone used the UNT90 account to suggest that it was improper for UNTPD to conduct the investigation:

 

Then that same hacker suggested that Benford knew about the prostitution ring and anyone who didn't at least suspect this was a cheerleader:

 

Then that (possibly Russian?) hacker suggested not only would the UNT PD be incapable of handling a real and honest investigation, but then that university would fail to hand over incriminating evidence to the UNT PD.

 

I am relieved that the Soviets are behind this, and not you UNT90.  I especially glad you aren't the type of person who isn't capable of understanding that intelligent and reasonable people can have differing viewpoint.   I would hate to have thought you were the kind of person that would suggest that those that don't agree with you are either:

Too stupid to understand basic geography:

 

So debased that they would willingly turn there back on sex crime felonies:

 

Too simple minded to think for themselves:

 

I am especially glad that you never even suggested that this case was in any way shape or form related to the decades long cover up of child sexual abuse:

 

 

Like I said, glad to here none of that was you.  But you really need to change your password ASAP.

Again, character assasination by the same mod that gave the green light to online bully me off this forum. 

Read your post and mine again. Quite the stretches in truth you make there, isn't it? 

Ill sign off and let the circle jerk of "wouldn't it be great to go 6-6 just one year" continue. 

Get ready for NCAA sanctions for YOUR basketball program, because I bet they are right around the corner.

Adios, loser accepting mofos. 

[Former Bball players under investigation]

42 minutes ago, UNTFan23 said:

From a legal aspect, has the university done anything wrong? Not Penn State, not Baylor ... North Texas. Point us to something that they've done wrong that makes getting a conviction in court more difficult.

Lol. They NEVER bear responsibility for ANYTHING in your eyes. It's impossible to know the answer to your question one way or the other at this point, but you are just fine pre-exonerating the university because that it literally all you ever do. 

A fine example how UNT fans always accept losing, and hence UNT will always be a loser. 

[Former Bball players under investigation]

11 minutes ago, VideoEagle said:

No one can I guess. 

The university never does wrong in your eyes. Baylor could really use your fandom.

 

They left Benford in place for 3 years longer than any other university would have. That decision led to a possible sexual assault and a prostitution ring. 

Laziness begat laziness begat criminal activity 

19 minutes ago, GreenMachine said:

but you fail to mention that you are in the middle of that circle getting sprayed!!!

 Na, the barrels are all point toward the ground and shooting blanks. 

[DRC: Baker reaches out to core boosters, fans via e-mail]

1 minute ago, Cerebus said:

Implicated of what?  Keeping a bad basketball coach around for two long?   Fine, they are guilty of that, but to try and go from there to suggesting some sort of criminal conspiracy cover up is just crazy.   

 

 

Who suggested a cover up? I explained in that very post why they were responsible, did you not read that far? 

And are you up to your old tricks? I never compared this to Baylor. 

Just stop

[DRC: Baker reaches out to core boosters, fans via e-mail]

2 hours ago, GrandGreen said:

So far, there are two people implicated in this mess, an one year ball player and a student manager.   People on here with wild speculation and assuming the absolute worse are not helping anything, and I am not just referring to "Mr. Post anything to get attention".

This does not point to systemic failure in NT athletics or thus far involvement from anyone else but a couple of very small time inept knuckleheads.   That may change, but until it does I don't understand the impulse to make this story much bigger than it now seems to be.  

 

RV is implicated. Smatresk is implicated. To a much lesser degree, Baker is implicated. 

All three left an undisciplined failure as head coach for 3 years longer than any other major college program would have. This doesn't happen if any one of the three had stepped up and done their job. 

But its UNT athletics, so no big shock that didn't happen.

It also not surprising that long term fans just accept the suck and never assign any blame. It's the UNT way, after all.

Get ready for some self reporting of NCAA rules violations after the law firm's review of the program. That's coming. 

39 minutes ago, UNTLifer said:

My goodness. Have you joined the staff of INFOWARS as well?

No alternate opinions allowed. Join the circle or else!!

[Former Bball players under investigation]

Just now, forevereagle said:

Just stop.

I guess what's good for the goose isn't good for the gander, eh?

get back to that circle. 

[Former Bball players under investigation]

17 minutes ago, UNTLifer said:

Thank you UNT90, now back to Alex Jones in the INFOWAR Studios.

And back to your circle... activity

[Former Bball players under investigation]

Just now, UNTFan23 said:

One could argue that UNT PD is just as equipped to handle such cases as a rural PD like Bridgeport, Granbury, and Joshua ... just to name a few outskirt small towns around DFW who likely wouldn't see such crimes.

I certainly don't see where the administration is attempting to "sweep" this matter under the carpet. Is it a PR mess -- sure -- but they don't appear to be doing anything improper based on the transparency they attempting to convey. The admin would still have a hornet's nest to deal with regardless of whether it was UNT PD, Denton PD, Denton County SO, or the FBI doing the investigating of the alleged crimes.

The bolded is exactly correct. You know who they call when they don't have the resources? The Rangers. That's why they are there. 

Neither you nor I know the scope of this thing. The scope may never be known without a proper investigation. They wouldn't have a hornets nest with UNT PD, because UNT PD answers directly to the administration and may do what they are told.