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12 minutes ago, unt_rocket09 said:
@UNT90 I normally disagree with you but I’m on the same page regarding the bowl game. Would rather lose 50-30 to a FSU squad people care about. Yes Troy is better than FSU, but literally nobody that isn’t a die hard cares.
Yep. And that’s the point when you are trying to actually build something, which is what the AD should be trying to do.
The whole “we are trying to win10 games to say we won 10 games” was 1) stupid and 2) something literally no one cared about.
It was stupid because Troy was CLEARLY the better team and there was no chance to win the game. No one cared because it was Troy.
Just another mark in the long list of opportunities lost at UNT. I mean, it’s literally what we do.
On a side note, I see a poster bullied Ben by posting personal information publicly. It appears he wasn’t disciplined for it. It sad this place has devolved into a shaming mechanism for anyone that dares question UNT athletics. It’s a shame it’s allowed. It’s a shame it’s participated in by those who should certainly know better. But such is the state of this forum these days. Thank God There is alternate place to post.
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On 12/28/2017 at 12:05 AM, MeanGreenTexan said:
Well, no, not “period”. There was no “outflanking” by USM’s AD, unless you call having no choices & waiting around for someone to invite you as “outflanking”.
USM would have LOVED to go to the NO Bowl. NO Bowl gave us an expiring offer. After that, they would have likely extended an offer to USM & we would be waiting on the Indy Bowl to invite us. With the right plays by our Commish, they would have... but WB chose to take the bird in hand (safer bet) instead over the NM bowl or the Frisco Bowl, just in case we didn’t get the call from the Indy committee (which, I’m almost certain we would have).
It did not matter one iota what FSU wanted. They were stuck in the Indy Bowl no matter how much politicking they did (and they did... hence the delayed Indy invites), & they were not going to stay home.
CUSA Commish let 2 teams down regarding the Indy Bowl. One of them would have likely won. The other may have lost a little less than they did to a (top 25) SBC school.
Ah, taking the “safe” route. Ya, that’s what this program needs...
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42 minutes ago, FAU Connoisseur said:
Do you think UNT would have fared better over FSU compared to Troy?
Yes.
Because UNT would have gotten two extra weeks of practice time.
Because UNT wouldn’t have gotten their teeth kicked in by an opponent from the Sun Belt, a conference this program spent years ineptly trying to escape from.
Because UNT fans (like me) would have actually attended the bowl game. I didn’t even watch the Troy game on TV.
Because UNT grads who don’t pay attention to UNT would have had their head turned by a game against a team that they perceived mattered. For almost a full month. Local media would have paid attention to UNT playing FSU. They didn’t for Troy. At all. In the 13 days between the conference championship game and bowl game.
You don’t understand our culture, so I get your questions. The sad thing is many fans here think the same way you do, which is why this is the dumbest fanbase in college football. By a long shot.
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6 minutes ago, Mean Green Matt said:
Yes, MAY not have had a choice. I was vocally against the NOB, but I am not privy to the knowledge necessary to make a definitive statement on how it all happened. I guess one can always throw out the generic "oh, well our administration should have done better", but there's a better chance than not that we were not the most powerful entity in the room. I think the odd FAU/Akron matchup tells you there was plenty of funny business going on.
And it’s the AD’s job to navigate that funny business. That’s my point. USM AD didn’t seem to have a problem.
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39 minutes ago, Mean Green Matt said:
There weren't many people on here disrespecting the NOB itself. It's a fine, average bowl. The problem was the totality of the circumstances which made it basically a lose/lose. We may not have had a choice and that's fine. But it was less than ideal. Just because it's inflated (probably more than double) attendance figures are better than 9 other bowls doesn't change that.
May not have had a choice? It’s the responsibility of the Athletic Department to make sure that NEVER happens as the West Champs of CUSA. Ever.
Last year when we didn’t even deserve a bowl invite? Sure, take what you can get. THis year? The AD got outflanked by a more experienced USM AD.
Period.
Oh, FSU team speed kills? Well, so did Troy’s. And at least USM gets an opponent worth 2 craps Inc the eyes of their uniformed fans.
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Ben is right.
This defense gave up 38 or more points to SEVEN G5 OPPONENTS this year.
Let that sink in. At any other FBS program, Reffert would be given his walking papers. And he knows it. Good thing he works for the one whose fan base has zero standards, eh?
This is Dodgeball with a really good QB. This is a gimmick defense that isn’t working. This is primed for a major step backwards unless defensive line play has a massive level of improvement.
And to the poster who actually believes the redshirts will be better than the current DL: IF THEY WERE THEY WOULD HAVE PLAYED THIS YEAR!
Good Lord. Dumbest fanbase in America.
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9 hours ago, GMG24 said:
Lol, I've sent him to the staff three different times with no reply. Kid hasn't been in trouble, makes good grades and outworks everyone in offseason. Idk that we would land hi,m, but we would be his only in state offer. Alas we haven't extended an offer.
Becoming pretty clear that the way to keep this staff from contacting a kid is to contact the staff about a kid.
I imagine they think they know better...
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Another propaganda thread from a board full of them.
Sad, thinking back on what this place used to be.
So... Rah rah rah, sis boom bah away.
Adios, Mofos.
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1 hour ago, NT91 said:
Is SMU a better job? That is debatable.
Is it? They play in a better conference, pay their coach over $1 million more a year than UNT (in fact, it’s the highest paid head coaching position in the G5), have a MUCH better brand, and yes, they have a better football history.
I mean, they aren’t P5 better, but they are definitely a rung up from UNT.
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19 hours ago, TroyFootball05 said:
To each his own I guess. SMU's rush defense is 107th, our is 7th. Hard to argue their front is somehow better than ours. We also lead them in sacks and tackles for loss by a good margin. UTSA is 50 spots behind Troy in all three major statistics you'd use to measure a team's front seven: Rush Defense, Sacks, and Tackles for Loss. As for Iowa, they are also significantly lower than Troy in all of those stats, but they play in a big boy conference, so I won't argue that one.
Here is the deal. You are going to get a lot of snarky responses from UNT fans because they are terrified of losing this game. Anyone who looks at this honestly will fear Troy’s ability to get to the QB. Hell, Fine was sacked 6 or 7 times by a lesser FAU front 7 just a week ago. Both UNT tackles are very suspect in pass protection.
I didn’t want to play you guys because there is zero upside for UNT. Actually, the same zero upside exists for Troy, also. If UNT wins, people shrug their shoulders. If UNT loses to a program from a conference UNT fought for years to leave, it hurts UNT’s already low perception. And from Troy’s view, beating UNT does nothing to help that program. UNT has a terrible brand and a loss to UNT hurts Troy way more than a win helps Troy.
Its a lose lose for both schools. But that’s the reason the powers that be put us together. No one really cares about either of us.
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9 hours ago, GangGreen said:
Trust no one.
Except UNT90
Well, you don’t trust a head coach’s denial when he is the subject of better job rumors.
Look, I know you rah rah boys are new at this whole coach possibly being hired away thing, but stop being naive about it. Any coach in this situation isn’t going to tell anyone outside his immediate family what his real intentions are. They are going to pledge allegiance to the current school up to the minute that they announce they are leaving, if they say anything at all. That’s the way this dance is done.
If you had read the above link, you would realize this. Seth Littrell doesn’t owe UNT anything. He doesn’t love Denton. He came here to go somewhere else. That the way college football go.
Whether the rah rah boys like it or not.
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8 hours ago, NorthTexan95 said:
Somehow in an article about Littrell mentions to talk about two losses and no wins. It would be nice to have a beat writer who didn't always see the glass half empty.
He picked UNT to go 11-2 this year in his week to week picks. Half empty? Lol.
*May have actually been 12-1 as I don’t recall who he picked in the CUSA Championship game.
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9 hours ago, emmitt01 said:
Has nobody figured out how this works yet?
If North Texas hires a coach he is clearly unproven, better names wouldn't answer our calls, and the AD isn't serious about athletics
If said coach loses it is proof of the mistake we made in taking a chance on him
If said coach wins it is because our competition was obviously weak, the whole conference is weak, or bad recruiting will eventually prove it to be a fluke...yet simultaneously this coach is now too good for us and will be taking the next open job, ANY open job, to get away from this place
If said coach turns down other offers to stay at North Texas he is actually lying and is in contract negotiations with those schools...or the offer was never really on the table.
Lol. Hardly. But I mean, if Littrell does go to SMU, at least he will be coaching your other favorite team, right?
Again, when people lose arguments, they shift to other, 2 year old issues, and then completely mischaracterize those old issues because people don’t remember 2 year old arguments. It’s a loser’s game: But what else would you expect from one of SMU’s biggest fans?
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Just now, emmitt01 said:
And Morris will never get a P5 job, right Emmitt?
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23 minutes ago, MGNation92 said:
Jury says Littrell has made 2 bowl games, a conference championship, and set records
Jury also says Fritz has made no bowl games, no conference championships and hasn’t set records.
Rah Rah ree kick em in the knee,
Rah Rah ruts, you’re F*cking nuts.
Ah, the basking in the glory of one successful season. I mean, it’s so 2013...
And all shills can do (not talking about you in particular) is bring up 2 year old crap when arguing a completely different subject? Ok, I guess.
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1 hour ago, Wag Tag said:
Looking forward to the 90 rant! Gmg
No rant needed. Just a little common sense. If coaches will lie directly to their players, they will certainly lie to a message board poster. See below:
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If what the SMU poster says is true about Littrell taking Harrel with him to SMU, this board should recognize the very real possibility that Fine could follow both to SMU.
Maybe he doesn’t. But don’t think that won’t be discussed.
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2 minutes ago, TheReal_jayD said:
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1 minute ago, TheReal_jayD said:
you were wrong about willie fritz. you were wrong about seth littrell.. grow up
Jury is out on both.
And try not to end every post with “grow up.” If for nothing else but originality’s sake.
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2 minutes ago, TheReal_jayD said:
when extention is announced it wont be a million dollars more.
more notable history??? besides the history they bought the last 20 years our records are even..
i am dont with this childish act. Seth isnt interviewing with SMU. Seth wont be the next coach of SMU.
Always a pleasure.
It’s like you are putting your hands over your ears, squeezing your eyes shut, and yelling “nana, nana, nana, nana” as loud as you can.
You were wrong about Morris. I hope you aren’t wrong about Littrell.
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4 minutes ago, TheReal_jayD said:
Dude grow up man. how old are you 60... quit acting like you are 15. Seth will leave North Texas. No one is denying that or saying that would never happen. But why would you make a lateral move when he has a great foundation started here and are just one year away from being able to hand pick the P5 job you want.. there is a reason Chad morris interview for every P5 job he could in the last 4 weeks...
Unless UNT doesn’t reach expectations next year. Then that P5 job is gone. May I redirect you to the last two years of recruiting.
If you think SMU is a “lateral move,” you are just showing your UNT homerness. Any place that can pay a coach $1 million more in salary isn’t a lateral move. At all.
Also a better conference, more notable history, much better national brand, and so on and so on.
As far as growing up, you are the only one using personal attacks and name calling in our discussion. So maybe heed a little of your own advice?
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8 minutes ago, TheReal_jayD said:
to each is own. i am gonna take the mans word for it. you can take the random poster who read a 247 article.
So let me get this straight. You expect a head coach to tell a very frequent message board poster that said head coach is interviewing with message board poster’s perceived arch rival? Seriously? The head coach is the one source that ABSOLUTELY cannot be trusted to tell the truth in this scenario.
Prepare to be disappointed in people throughout your life. A lot.
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2 hours ago, SMU2006 said:
A little inside info from a friend of mine that works in the athletic department.
-Four candidates that are on the board as of now are Jeff Traylor (interim HC), Seth Littrell, Blake Anderson, and Sonny Dykes. All have expressed interest in the position and have/will be interviewed. A decision is expected Monday at the latest.
- Kevin Sumlin was in Dallas yesterday and met with SMU but has decided he's going to take a year off and see where the landscape is next offseason. SMU was willing to increase the HC salary to 2.75M for Sumlin and increase the assistant pool by 1M across the board but Sumlin feels he can easily land a P5 job next year and will be in prime position to take over once the carousel begins again.
- SMU had a phone interview with Texas DC Todd Orlando but apparently Rick Hart the AD felt he did not have a strong recruiting pedigree. Also SMU felt it was a leverage play by Orlando to get more cash out of Texas. Orlando even advocated for keeping Traylor as his OC but he's since been ruled out.
- Jeff Traylor has the full support of the players on the team which isn't lost on Hart or the SMU inner circle of boosters. He's a Texas high school coaching legend (like Chad Morris) and was a big time recruiter for Charlie Strong at Texas. He's made it clear he wants the job and would take less money to assemble a veteran coaching staff. Traylor would likely be in the 1.3 to 1.5M range with estimated assistant increases of nearly 2M. If I had to handicap it right now he's probably the leader in the clubhouse.
- Seth Littrell has expressed interest in the job and would bring Harrell with him. He's doing a great job at UNT and has a similar background to Morris. The negative I've been told from SMU's perspective is that he and his staff have not recruited well even by CUSA standards. Under Morris, SMU signed classes in which nearly every recruit had at least one P5 offer and landed former 4 star guys like Trey Quinn who led the nation in receptions this past year. Formal interview likely tomorrow.
- Blake Anderson has the endorsement of Chad Morris. Morris was very transparent through the whole Arkansas process and when Hart asked about a recommendation Morris apparently "without hesitation" went with Blake Anderson. He's been a pretty consistent winner and has former P5 experience. He runs a similar offensive system to the Power Spread that Morris implemented and would be what I was told is a "safe" pick. Again, issue is recruiting and ability to go head to head in the AAC against much better competition than what he's used to in the Sun Belt.
- Sonny Dykes had a phone interview earlier today and from I was told it was actually quite impressive. He's won at a place with far less financial support (La Tech) but had a really tumultuous tenure at Cal. He's got a weird role this year at TCU that is essentially just a quality control/offensive analyst so he's certainly ready to roll if he got the nod, but I'm told that is highly unlikely. That CAL program was completely wheels off in his last year. I'm told he is a "distant fourth" and more of a backup candidate at this point.
-IPF breaks ground in February on the site of the Barr Pool (if you've been on campus its the swimming pool on the north side of Ford Stadium behind the dorms. Projects at SMU do not break ground until they are 80% funded thus the delay which infuriated Morris. He wanted to break ground in August of 2016 but SMU had just recently completed a 35M tennis facility and was in the process of raising an additional 25M for the new swimming facility across Central Expressway which opened this year. Morris and SMU President R. Gerald Turner have butted heads a lot over this and it certainly led to some testy moments last year when Morris had a flirtation with Baylor. The IPF is estimated to be in the 40-45M range with lead donor secured and shovels ready and will be the traditional red Georgian brick exterior to match the SMU campus aesthetic. Morris had initially wanted a "bubble" facility similar to what the University of Texas has but Turner and the SMU BoT wouldn't go for it.
A lot of stuff there but figured the folks here would want to know. If I had to make a guess I'd say:
Traylor - 50%
Littrell - 35%
Anderson - 10%
Dykes - 5%Best of luck in your bowl game and see you next year in Denton!
Thank you for a very detailed account of what you believe to be happening at SMU. If you get insulted, put down, made fun of, realize this fanboard only wants to believe in unicorns and fairy dust these days. Any opposing opinion gets shouted down. Some will tell you that Littrell will coach here for the next two years even if Alabama offered him the head coaching job.
We aren’t used to winning, so please forgive the rah rah boys you encounter. They know not what they do.
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1 minute ago, TheReal_jayD said:
Dont believe me i could care less...your opinion means nothing to me. You said willie fritz would be the better coach. in two season Ole Willie has 9 Wins. Seth has nine this season with one to play. so you can keep your negativity and pessimism to your self. North Texas have had there best athletic semester in years... It has to be because you and RV left...
Leaving this board isn’t leaving UNT athletics, my manipulated friend. I was at every home game.
Willie Fritz? That’s all you got? Lol.
SMU poster had some very detailed info. You had a “I know a guy” denial. Detailed info should always win the day.
Maybe he goes to SMU, maybe he doesn’t. But I’m pretty sure that’s going to be SMU’s decision.
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SBC Bowl Season
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Wow. I mean, maybe we could get the object of our obsession (SMU) to get together and head back to the Belt with us. That would be great, wouldn’t it?? 🙄
UNT football fans: lowest standards in college football.