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12 minutes ago, UNT 90 Grad said:
@UNT90 ,
You may not see it now, but I feel like one day, maybe years down the road, you will get so tired of our almamater losing that you'll throw your name in contention to be the next UNT Athletic Director. Boosters, ready for someone to stir things up, will put pressure on the university president to hire you because of your arguably extreme views on how to turn UNT athletics around. After narrowing down the candidates to you and what would have been UNT's first female Athletic Director, you'll be hired to be AD and make UNT great again.
...then again, maybe I just ate some bad Mexican food. I dunno.
Lol. I got a job, don't want another.
Besides, I got my sights set on the TCU head basketball coaching gig once Jaime takes the Duke job when Coach K retires.
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4 hours ago, UNTFan23 said:
Western Kentucky Hilltoppers (Sun Belt Conference) (2012–2014) 2011–12 Western Kentucky 11–8[9] 6–7[9] 3rd (East)[10] NCAA 2nd Round[11] 2012–13 Western Kentucky 20–15 10–10 4th (East)[12] NCAA 2nd Round[13] 2013–14 Western Kentucky 21–11 12–6 2nd Western Kentucky Hilltoppers (Conference USA) (2014–2016) 2014–15 Western Kentucky 20–12 12–6 T–4th 2015–16 Western Kentucky 18–16 8–10 8th Western Kentucky: 90–62 (.592) 48–39 (.552) His worst complete year was 18-16. You mean to tell me NT fans wouldn't be OK with that?
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So your stated goal for UNT basketball is .500 or VERY slightly above?
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10 hours ago, GMG24 said:
Not sure what you mean by Baker taking a go along to get along approach. He has hastened the facility improvements, got locker rooms re done, got brand new helmets in football will be releasing a pretty sweet lineup of new jerseys for football (He is getting the team money to do these things) He has been very open on social media with ideas and open to change. I am not sure that coming in and making whole sale changes in the AD before grasping what is going on in the department is a good idea. Yes there should be some changes but I think it is fair to give those said employees a chance to succeed under a new leader before making that decision. I also get your argument for starting all fresh.
You don't keep a guy around that wanted and openly campaigned heavily for your job. It leads to split loyalties inside your organization. That move should have been made immediately and hurt the time frame to improve the AD. That was a complete go along to get along move, a la Mac keeping Chico.
He didn't fire Benford when he knew he should have. He bowed to people in high places that liked Benford and didn't want him gone before season's end. Good old personal manipulation and UNT athletics are best buddies.
He thinks he is being politically smart, but what he is doing is perpetuating a terrible culture that he either can't identify or has decided not to fight.
Is there a chance I'm wrong? Sure. If you ignore human behavior and listen to just words. June will tell the tale. If there are no AD changes (I'm betting there won't be), we will know what The Who told us so many years ago:
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7 hours ago, Ryan Munthe said:
So...your angle is now "recruiting violations, no prob?" Oh, the irony.
Would you take the slap on the wrist SMU got to be a nationally prominent basketball program? If not, enjoy losing.
8 hours ago, Moobs said:Umm... TU isn't that far away. I'd consider that a shared market with a P5 team.
Exactly, the biggest P5 shadow on the state.
Wouldn't surprise me to see UTSA and UT sign a one and one in the future...
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1 hour ago, Army of Dad said:
First question: No, I'll always look to win clean rather than dirty.
Second question: Yes, he was a good hire for SMU. Their culture doesn't have the same aversion to winning.
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44 minutes ago, GMG24 said:
That may be the single most unfair statement you have ever made. I haven't been in the LR and neither have you, we have no idea what type of mentality Littrell and Co., are instilling. From what I have heard out of every interview from player or coaches, they weren't satisfied with the result of bowl loss, wanted to get in through wins and not by APR, although they were thankful. Most times they reference the goal being conference championships. They seem to be working toward that, by winning 5 games and losing 3 because an NFL level player beat them. I think we should have beat UTEP, but when a CUSA team has an NFL level player on them you get results. See UNT last HOD bowl, La Tech, WKU, and UTEP this year. NFL talent tends to win out vs inferior talent, it can be beat but you must execute and have little to no mistakes by an entire unit.
I'm not talking about coaches. I'm talking about UNT leadership and administration. If there is a cultural problem there, it will absolutely work its way down to head coaches. Dickey is a PRIME example. The man became bitter because he got zero support from apathic leadership above the AD.
What did UNT do when they fired Dickey? Hired a high school coach. That's not even pretending to care. And when Dodge predictably failed? Hired a retread and bumped salaries because they absolutely had to do so.
And who was AD that entire time? A woefully underperforming AD that kept his job for 15 years and was only fired after a huge majority of the fan base threw a hissy fit. Yes, that absolutely mattered. Even then, RV had support from high level donors and some BOR members to remain. What other FBS would ever retain that level of incompetence for 15 years? The answer is none.
That moves us to Baker, who appears to have taken a go along to get along position at UNT. That will work well for him if he wants to he UNT AD for 15 years, but it will be highly detrimental to the most important change needed for success of the major athletic programs: a change in culture.
Baker appears to be willing to do what his bosses want him to do with little or no fight. How do I know this? Because I haven't seen evidence of him winning one major issue. IF this is the case (we will know for certain if major changes aren't made in the AD by mid June), Baker will be just another in a long line of failed hires at UNT.
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21 minutes ago, untjim1995 said:
They have a lot of advantages on their side that we don't. They have no history of apathetic losing. They don't share a market with anyone else. The SA media likes covering them. And Power 5 teams want to play there.
We don't have any of that.
Bullshit to the P5 not wanting to play here. UNT didn't want them to play here. The Hattiesburg Hustler said so publicly on a GMG.com podcast, Yet Baker was able to get a one and one within 6 months of taking the job. Can't believe you of all people would throw that particular excuse out. That particular false narrative should be dead and buried.
18 year olds don't know our history. I think our culture hurts us much more than our history, because you can bet HS coaches know that culture and have been subjected to it if they have been coaching very long.
What UTSA has in publicity they lack in facilities, and terribly so. Unless they get really good (very possible), their attendance average will fall below 20k. People don't want to watch losers. You as a UNT fan should know that by just looking around Apogee or the Pit. The Alamo Dome is a complete craphole, and anyone who has been there understands this.
Their biggest advantage is culture inside the program. They have a culture that wants to win and will do what is legally necessary to get there. UNT doesn't.
9 minutes ago, oldguystudent said:I know a lot of people who improve their social lives and better their chances at a little action on Saturday night by saying "I'm fine to drive."
It's just a little slap on the wrist. Is a slap on the wrist worth it?
Really crazy analogy and completely inapplicable. SMU didn't commit a crime, for Pete's sake.
So, back to the question:
Would you have hired Larry Brown if he could have provided to UNT exactly what he provided to SMU?
Wait, that's probably poorly worded. Better question: Do you think Brown was a good hire for SMU?
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2 hours ago, oldguystudent said:
Between Coker and this guy, UTSA seems hell bent on winning and perhaps becoming the next Baylor.
No, they are doing what every other FBS school not named UNT does. They hire people to win. They are committed to a winning athletics program.
I love ya, but this was the same statement rolled out there by many (myself included) for the Larry Brown hire by SMU. Did they get their wrists slapped? Yep. Are they now positioned to get a 4 seed in the NCAA tournament and have they been picked by one expert as one of 8 teams that should win it all? Yep again. And a program poised to be a major player on the national scene for years to come.
So I ask you, was the slap on the hand worth it?
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6 hours ago, All About UNT said:
just can't help yourself.
Truth hurts. Hide and watch. They are building something down there that has never been built here. And they are doing it with much much less.
#commitment
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1 hour ago, Harry said:
New UTSA defensive line coach Bo Davis is no stranger to success. He helped put together some of the strongest, most dominant defensive line units in the country during his time at Alabama. How he put those units together is a question at this point.
Davis resigned from Alabama last spring under curious circumstances. Davis was shown the door at Bama allegedly because of recruiting violations. Davis' lack of cooperation with the school sped up his ouster.
24/7 rated Davis as the number one recruiter in the SEC and number two recruiter nationally. Davis was investigated by the NCAA, however the investigation has not reached a resolution. His hiring at UTSA is a little surprising given that fact. Davis spent last season in NCAA limbo, waiting on something to come of the investigation. So he took a job driving a truck, making $18 an hour and waited. He's still waiting.
The allegations stem from Davis' contact with recruits outside NCAA mandated time frames. Not exactly SMU from the 1980's type stuff. So UTSA may have landed one of the best recruiters in America, with a few strings attached. Those string haven't identified themselves yet.
But this is what Frank Wilson has done at UTSA, enlist the help of some serious recruiting talent to help him build the program.
Wilson is getting it done by taking chances. UTSA is committed to athletics. I wish UNT was half as committed.
UTSA is my darkhouse to win CUSA next year.
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43 minutes ago, GrandGreen said:
Now that I think about it, NT lost all five starters and had to end the season primarily with walk-ons and the training staff. Not quite sure how this debate got started, the team was bad and would have been no matter who was coaching the last semester.
Lol. Ok. Which one of the training staff was the team cancer that sunk this thing?
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8 minutes ago, EagleMBA said:
Fixed it! Ray approves this mascot.
Looks like Ray found food at the wildlife refuge.
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20 minutes ago, Mean_Green09 said:
That's a bit of a stretch. You can't just patch together a team at the mid major level and expect 20 wins.
This team wasn't more talented than
MTSU
La Tech
ODU
Rice
UAB
WKU
UTEP
The job is rebuilding a program. I'd hate to see the next guy come in and try to assemble teams the same way Benford did. We may win a few more games, but won't ever climb to the top of CUSA.
We should be around.500 next year, but competing for a CUSA title is 3 to 4 years away if we hire the right guy.
For a spin free, outsider assessment, just look where other conference coaches thought UNT would finish this year:
http://conferenceusa.com/news/2016/10/6/MBK_1006161210.aspx
Now, the argument could be made that the other coaches knew that Benford was an awful coach and rated UNT accordingly, but it also says something about the talent on this roster.
336 out of 352 in RPI.
Lots of evidence this team won't be a 20 win team next year.
Instead of worrying about Combs, the new coach better get busy convincing the Desoto kid not to try and get a release from his LOI.
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16 minutes ago, BillySee58 said:
I've noticed with Vito's blog posts recently that when mentioning players who might transfer he no longer brings up the grad transfer route for Combs and instead mentions that Combs still has his redshirt available to sit out a year. Maybe both are still options, but it sounds like Vito has backed off of the grad transfer possibility and is indicating that he would have to do a conventional transfer and sit out a year. His remaining redshirt is irrelevant if being a grad transfer were an option.
If that is the case, that's a huge difference, both for the appeal of transferring to Combs and the appeal of Combs to teams who may pursue him.
Interesting. That would be great news for whoever the new coach turns out to be.
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10 minutes ago, GMG24 said:
There ain't a damn thing to rebuild other than winning games. The team he assembled was easily a 20 win team.
Absolutely ZERO way to know what this team is. You may be right, you may be dead wrong. These guys have been so poorly coached for so long, there is no telling what they are. Is there talent? Some. I would bet you and I disagree completely on Brice. He needs A LOT of work to be a contributing bench player in CUSA. Lawson looks like the real deal, but does he stay? Everyone else is pretty meh.
35 minutes ago, MCMLXXX said:I never thought quoting a post meant you have problem with it. I asked three questions. The first was connected to the collective statements from thousands of posts. It is simply a yes or no question. The next two are simply designed to determine the basis for his opinion. If you have spoken to the player you may have inside information. I would not personally disclose a personal conversation but some folks might. Attending games might be enlightening as to non verbal actions that lead one to an opinion. All people have opinions including experts. Some opinions are better than others based on the information available. There are a lot more questions that could assist in evaluating an opinion. I never disagreed with any fact or for that matter disagreed with any opinion.
That first statement was a shot, not a question. But I don't hate ya. It's ok, I know you were just jumping on the dog pile and using me as a punching bag for your frustration of Combs being wasted for 3 plus years while UNT failed to act.
Yes, I went to A game this year. One. Combs didn't play.
No, I would never disclose a conversation with a player or player's parent on this board. Ever.
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7 hours ago, EagleMBA said:
Mascot?
Can't tell if it's completely naked. MUST BE CREEPILY AND COMPLETELY NAKED!!!!!!
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1 hour ago, untjim1995 said:
In the last 40 years, one basketball coach, Johnny Jones, got hired away by a bigger school. And he just got fired. Same with football, except hayden Fry stayed at Iowa for decades longer.
We all want to be blindly loyal fans, but this place is usually a death sentence for a head coach after this, in terms of being a head coach at the same level again. There are exceptions, but this is not a place that others use to springboard into something better in the two main revenue sports. It's almost always been a trap door to career death as a head coach in college at the same level or higher.
And a trap door to a career death as an AD, I assume...
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3 hours ago, TheTastyGreek said:
Bummer.
Mostly for the players, who are now certain to end up getting strung out on heroin and dropping out of school by the end of the week.
You forgot the most dangerous sin of all: they will have pre-marital sex with college girls!!!!!!
Oh, the horror!!!!
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58 minutes ago, GrandGreen said:
Yes, every team loses a projected 4 out of 5 starters every other year. Baker did not replace Benford during the season, all your redundant mostly illogical comments are not going to change that outcome.
So it's gone from 3 out of 5 to 4 out of 5 now? Did they add an injured starter this 3rd day after the season was over?
Look, The SMU kid wasn't a starter. Never was a starter here. Just because you wanted him to be a starter doesn't mean that he was. I also have my doubts about him leaving the program because of his knee. Really weird circumstances led to his departure.
Combs was a big loss. Deckie wasn't. He was actually replaced by an all-conference freshman. Who was this third starter lost again? That should be pretty telling.
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26 minutes ago, Army of Dad said:
Let's look at the post you quoted:
"If he gets his degree, he will be eligible immediately next year."
This is a fact. Is there something here that you disagree with?
"He isn't going to want to spend his final season on a team struggling to rebuild."
This is an opinion, but a fairly reasonable one. It's not unusual for talented graduates to want to try someplace new. This seems to be more often the case when a losing team is in the rebuilding process or a player feels like they aren't getting the playing time they want/deserve. Combs is very talented and it's unlikely next year's team will be competing for a conference title.
"He will have options in the WCC, the AAC and several other conferences that aren't P5s, but are huge steps above CUSA. That will raise his profile for professional contracts. Maybe not NBA, but definitely overseas contracts for really good money."
This is another opinion, but once again a fairly reasonable opinion. It might be a stretch for some of the teams in those conferences, but Combs is pretty talented and playing well at a higher level conference would likely help his pro prospects.
I guess I'm not seeing why you had such a problem with that post.
I think it's because he knows deep down odds are I have a very good chance of being right here, and it pisses him off that Combs will be gone.
Its always easy to kill the messenger, and it's a proud tradition at UNT.
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There literally is zero evidence that Baker will make a good or bad hire.
You know, because he has never hired any FBS level coach.
I know people want to wish it so, but at some point you have to at least concede basic facts.
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4 hours ago, UNTFan23 said:
A company will shed hundreds, if not thousands of jobs before a CEO is replaced.
Macys has been closing stores over the past couple years and Terry J. Lundgren is still in charge. Sears/Kmart is another retail company that has struggled for a while now and I'd say CEO Edward Lampert isn't in danger of going anywhere. Brian Cornell is the CEO for Target and despite a failure to make the retailer work in Canada, he still seems to have a job.
So despite customers not shopping as much at just these three retail chains alone, not one customer has gotten the respective CEO fired. Plenty of front-line employees have been laid off though.
You seriously equate UNT athletics to Walmart and Target?
Good lord.
37 minutes ago, GrandGreen said:Yes, he may have won the conference tournament and a couple of NCAA tournament games or the games may have been a lot more lopsided loses then they were.
I wonder if some of you commenting, actually watched a game. This team lost three starters to injuries including their best player and another that was in the top three, Combs and Johnson. This team wasn't going to significantly improve if you got the ghost of John Wooden to be an interim coach. This team didn't play well this year, but give them some credit they didn't quit.
Baker gave his rationale, and you can accept it or not. No one is making anyone be a fan. This year was going to be a disaster no matter what occurred after the decision to return Benford another year was made.
Ah, the injury excuse.
Every team faces challenges throughout the season. These aren't unique circumstances to UNT.
You are right about the season being over before it started, but no one anticipated the possibility of a 0-18 conference record, which was a VERY real possibility into February. Circumstances changed. So should have Baker's evaluation time line. Instead, he chose to let this team possibility go 0-18. That's unforgivable. It also shows a lack of ability to adjust to incoming info. This is a huge weakness in many executives. They think it makes them look weak to adjust to new info. Those leaders don't last long (at least in a non-dysfunctional organization). If UNT would have changed their culture, I would fear this fate for Baker.
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Just now, MeanGreenTexan said:
I think even those programs may be spooked by using one of their scholarships on a 1-year guy with injury history.
When he's on, there's no doubt he can contribute on a high level, and any of those schools would love to have him. Heck, I bet SMU/TCU would love to have him... but he's been rode hard, and that ankle is now a concern.If it was for more than one year, I would agree with you. But it isn't. Negligible gamble for a big payoff.
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His Facebook page is... out there...
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MBB Candidate could be Ray Harper
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