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And guess what, UNT will still be irrelevant as long as we keep getting blown out in OOC games and can't get into a better conference. So if you really don't care about the celebration of mediocrity that is UNT football, then thanks a lot, people like you are why we are at best and afterthought in college football. Pardon us for wanting better.
Heck, I'm to the point now that moving to a better conference is on the backburner. As is a new stadium. We need to fix what we have. That is, start winning the OOC games, being competitive against top BCS competition, and winning the SBC. I'm talking NT becoming top dog every year with an exciting brand of football. Right now and for the past eight years, it's just not getting done.
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I would rather see how NT fairs against BCS competition by comparing our record to those of our immediate peers like Tulsa, La Tech, Houston, Boise, etc. I really don't care how Buffalo, Ball State, and other low brow non-BCS programs do in similar matchups.
I know, NT is now part of the low brow, but you get my point.
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How about sending a letter to Dickey with the questions we want answered and with the (real) names of those who want their names attached to it?
Would be hard to ignore if it was sent to C®apper, RV, DD, RF, etc.
Cool, I just accidentally learned how to make the registered trademark symbol.
Running the football is a ™ of dickey ball.
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Has anyone reported an overall slowdown in the response of this board? I've noticed that the speed is just not as responsive as it was before the software changeover. For the record, I'm on business roadrunner(digital cable) at the office and regular roadrunner at home.
Just curious.
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I am walking down Waikiki Beach this morning wearing my toothpaste green "North Texas" shirt. This dude sees me coming and makes a face of disgust. He says "I lost a lot of money on your team." We passed each other and he turns around and says, "Can't you all even score?" I smiled and said "at home!"
moral of the story - NEVER take UNT on the road to cover because in an OOC game Dickey is going to treat a road OOC game as a scrimmage to get players playing time for conference play. I am convinced he does not care to win these games. He knew SMU was our Fiesta Bowl this year and mission accomplished. Playing competitive in conference (I can't even say "winning the conference") would be the icing on a good year. Next year it's win at SMU a tougher task.
For the first time ever I didn't find myself glued to the radio to listen to the game. I stayed busy cleaning my office with the internet on, but did not hang on every play. I have the same level of energy towards Mean Green football going into Akron. Just feel like a burned out fan after last season. The NATION needs a spark!
gmg
Good post NMGreen. Sadly, I concure.
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13. At the next home game, when we have amassed a total of 42.5 yards of total offense at halftime, will you be on the lookout for Silver Eagle when you're leaving the pressbox and hearing "you're being outcoached, Ramon"?
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Why? RF either wouldn't understand it or would not care to try that strategy. An 8 play playbook is much easier for our offense to grasp according to DD.
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Now that's funny!
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I'm sure the NT "braintrust"
Full confidence.
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When will the MG Premium put up the highlights of the Tulsa game?
Oh, I forgot, there were no highlights.
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The Sky is falling! The Sky is falling!
Let's see we played Texas better than we the last time saw them.
We played Tulsa better than we did last year.
We beat SMU.
So far it looks like were set to have a better season than the last two.
What were the game stats from last year? What did we have, 90 yards of total offense. Yep, we played them better.
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Is Akron even worth listening to if we're going to play like this?
No!
And is it worth my time to drive 700+ miles to watch us potentially steamrole to sub-100 yards of offense? No!
Only game I may attend is La Tech. The rest of my tickets and parking passes will be mailed back to the Athletic Department.
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I agree with everything Grand Green said with the exception that DD doesn't have official visits until the last six weeks of the season. That would make since since most before that are OOC games and he wouldn't want to see us lose.
I do not understand how or why we recruit the way we do. Why do we not go after the top players even if we don't get them. If any of you spent a lot of time in sales then you know that a 20% acceptance is generally considered good. I'm not saying that we have to offer the #1 in the nation, or even state, but go after some top-rated prospects. The worst is that they say no and that's already the answer when you don't go after them at all.
Why do only a minimum number even list North Texas as an interest? If we tell others not to list us, how can we certain that they would keep that promise? Do we really think that other Division 1-A schools don't rank several humdred recruits as well? With blessed few exceptions the CUSA and MWC have a very similar list to our own. I believe the truth to be that no one is just sitting there saying let's raid North Texas. They would go after the next person on their ranking regardless of whether that person had publicly made a verbal commitment or not. In fact, it seems that they might be more prone to go after the highest person on their list who had not verbaled to a 1-A school because precious few change their commitments once they've been made.
As to us not being interested in some, or even all, of those who show interest in us, I've got a new flash....that applies to every Division 1-A university. TCU, SMU, Houston and UTEP have more interested in their program than they could possibly take. Rice will probably join them soon. But, it's publicity. It puts our name before the public.
Yes, there is a caste system in the number of stars that an athlete gets, depending on who is showing interest. The players that initially show three stars and above have been selected by the top recruiting services so most will be strong contributors. If we get one of those I don't care if they reduce it by a star we will still have a major producer. Don't let the number of stars get to you but the majority on that list will be bona fide Division 1-A players. By the way, the star system also works in reverse. They now usually give us two stars for anyone that signs with a 1-A program, even when not previously listed.
I'm aware that we've been doing this all during Dickey's tenure and he's not about to change now but I'd rather see us go after some of the top talent than continually picking the majority of our classes from those "under the radar." Not that there isn't some good talent that doesn't get noticed but the majority of the recruiting class?
GreyEagleOne, you think like I do when it comes to recruiting. Let me add that our recruiting methods may get us a handful of good players like Quinn, JaMario, Kennedy, Spencer, etc. The problem is our depth. Not enough of the truly good players to man the 2nd team.
And the way I look at it, you reap what you sow. Our talent and depth may be just the ticket to compete in the Sun Belt.
Why not offer and get committments from some of the top recruits. Hell, now I see Boise State is after a top receiver in the Metroplex. And Tulsa, ULL, ASU, UTEP do quite well in recruiting.
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I'm assuming you mean SLC. Theres a little bit of a difference between South Oak Cliff and South Lake Carrol.
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Why not? Even Tulsa has these guys.
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Tyler Pistoia
Ray Romano
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Robert Latu
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I've been watching for a total of five minutes and Riley Dodge (Todd's son) has already thrown 3 TD passes during that time. The kid is unbelievable. Wonder if NT recruiting has already made him a scholarship offer?
Anyone besides me think that the SOC uniforms are really good looking with the black piping/accents on green?
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Yes. Chad, the owner, supports and attends UNT games including trips to New Orleans. Isn't his ad still on the side of Fouts? I thought his support was commonly known.
Question? Do they only work in the Denton area? How about Los Colinas?
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And don't forget, Johnny "The Jet" Quinn will not be wearing a cast on his hand.
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Isn't that the job of the sports information director at NT?
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Go Dolpatrickfins
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How big would it be for North Texas to defeat the 2005 CUSA Champions? Whether or not Tulsa has as good a team as last year does not matter. It would be a huge win for us.
Growth of a Football Program
in Mean Green Football
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"This is an interesting article about Louisiville and how they grew their football program. It talks about how the football team has elevated the entire university while going to eight straight bowl games."
This is what athletics mean to some universities. And don't forget, Louisville use to be in the same league as North Texas. Amazing how some schools get the picture. And then there are those who..........oh, never mind.
September 16, 2006
At Louisville, a Big-Time Program Without the Tradition
By JOE DRAPE
LOUISVILLE, Ky., Sept. 15 — It will be different for the Louisville athletic director, Tom Jurich, on Saturday when the Cardinals take the field against Miami. First, the game will be played in daylight. Second, it will be televised on ABC. Best of all, a Louisville victory means thoughts of a national title will live here another week.
The Cardinals, after all, are a team with little tradition, a team that entered the nation’s consciousness recently by agreeing to play Tuesday, Thursday — any night that ESPN asked. When Jurich came here in the fall of 1997, he had to plead with Adidas to let him buy shoes and gear for the team at retail prices.
“I offered them signs and billboards that they didn’t want just so my coaches could tell recruits that we were an Adidas school,” Jurich said.
No more. Louisville, which now plays in the Big East Conference, has gone to a bowl game eight consecutive years.
The rise of Louisville football has more to do with 21st-century marketing than 20th-century tradition.
The most famous Cardinal of them all, the late Hall of Famer Johnny Unitas, played on teams that won only seven games over three seasons in the early 1950’s. The ESPN analyst Lee Corso was 28-11-3 as the coach from 1969 to 1972. Howard Schnellenberger’s record was below .500 over 10 years, but he gave Louisville one of its most memorable seasons, going 10-1 in the 1990 season and beating Alabama in the Fiesta Bowl.
When Jurich arrived from Colorado State, he had the good fortune of inheriting a new 42,000-seat stadium, and the foresight to hire an old friend, John L. Smith, who had been the coach at Utah State and employed a wide-open, high-scoring passing game. Smith, now the coach at Michigan State, brought along an innovative offensive coordinator, Bobby Petrino.
“It was by plan,” Jurich said. “We needed to play entertaining football on the field, and off it we needed change — no shock — to our culture.”
Just as he had wheedled a deal with Adidas, Jurich offered his high-scoring football team to ESPN programmers. Of Louisville’s 44 television appearances since 1998, 36 have been on ESPN networks.
“We’ve been on television every night but Monday,” he said. “It was tough on our fans, but we were reaching potential recruits and football fans.”
Soon, however, the Louisville faithful embraced nighttime tailgating, and sellouts became the rule.
Whether or not the 12th-ranked Cardinals ( 2-0) defeat No. 17 Miami (1-1), the university president, James Ramsey, says the team’s impact on campus goes far beyond the 71-30 record the team has posted the past eight years.
On Friday, Ramsey held a celebration for thousands of faculty, staff and students on the lawn in front of Grawemeyer Hall. It honored goals that were met more than a year early on a 10-year academic plan. Among them were doubling the university’s endowment and increasing the number of endowed chairs and professorships.
“The football team, and the athletics program, has helped transform this university from a financially struggling metropolitan commuter school to a major research university that is attractive to the best faculty and students in the country,” Ramsey said.
“They have helped us raise our profile and opened up new markets for recruitment,’’ Ramsey added. “This is a very different institution than it was eight years ago.”
The success of football has also helped Jurich raise $200 million privately for the athletic department; $16.5 million of it was spent on Cardinal Park, a multisport complex. It not only helped 12 of Louisville’s sports teams earn national rankings last year, but it increased the number of sports available to women and has become a focal point in the city because it is used by local high schools.
The university built new dormitories and doubled the number of students living on campus. It was Louisville’s entry into the Big East last season, however, that has increased donations for academics and athletics.
“Those two areas fuel each other,” said Harry Jones, a Louisville native who is also a former chairman of the university’s board of trustees and a major donor. “Now you’re not only catching the eyes and ears of potential students, you’re being put out in front of top-flight faculty and researchers. By raising the money and spending it, it lets them know that we’re committed to being the very best that we can be.”
Louisville demonstrated how willing it was to pursue elite status in football last July when it signed Petrino to a 10-year, $25 million contract. He was 29-8 over three seasons, including an 11-1 mark in 2004 when the Cardinals led the nation in total offense (539 yards a game) and scoring (49.7 points a game).
Each season, Petrino has attracted the attention of premier football schools like Auburn and L.S.U. He turned down a lucrative offer to coach the Oakland Raiders.
“We think he’s one of the brightest minds in coaching, and we weren’t going to lose him because of dollars,” Jurich said.
Petrino said he got the message that Louisville was committed to him, and so did the rest of college football.
“We want to win a national championship here,” he said. “I know I can see that level of commitment, and I know the resources are here.”
It was considered a recruiting coup when the junior quarterback Brian Brohm and the senior running back Michael Bush — each considered Heisman Trophy contenders until Bush broke his leg against Kentucky in the opener — were persuaded to stay at home and play for the Cardinals.
Next year, another highly rated quarterback will play for Louisville: Matt Simms, the son of the former Giants quarterback Phil, and the brother of the Buccaneers quarterback, Chris.
To Brohm, the program’s present and future seem bright, and national titles seem to be in reach.
“I talk to recruits a lot, and they see that we have as good as talent as any other school, and as good as facilities,” Brohm said. “We’re on television, the stadium is packed and wild. Instead of living up to somebody else’s history, we have everything in place to make our own.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/16/sports/n...int&oref=slogin