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You must be a MUTS fan if....
You think that Dom Perignon is a Mafia leader.
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You must be a MUTS fan if...
The Halloween pumpkin on your front porch has more teeth than your spouse.
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North Texas 7, Texas 56
North Texas 24, SMU 6
North Texas 3, Tulsa 28
North Texas 13, Akron 33
FIU has been playing 1A ball for what, 2-3 years now? Is there something wrong with this picture?
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I am new to this board. How often does RV post? What is his user name? I'd like to read some of his past posts. I'd love to hear another side of the story.
Glad To Be Green
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Pillow fight time!
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Here, frustrate on one of Scotties posts from the "Dark Side" board. He sums up the Akron game pretty well.
"Akron had a punt blocked on their own 5-yard line, missed two extra points, missed a field goal, shanked a punt onto their own 20, allowed an onside kicked to be recovered at midfield and didn't score a point in the second half....and they beat UNT by 20 freaking points.
Dickey is indeed...the Sun Belt coach of the year."
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I have been down this road before and when they aren't talking it up, they could care less.
Very good point Stebo. It's not what they say, it's what they don't say that could be worrisome.
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Outstanding!
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Should they be ashamed? Have they ever been held liable for allowing the endowment and athletics to be so bad? I hope everyone who reads this thread will take the time to let them know you think this is unacceptable and should be fixed.
Cerebus, who do these people answer to? You, me, Rob, Oldtimer? And emails won't get it either. Too easy to delete without reading them. The best way is the written letter. How about posting the addresses for the BOR, Chancellor, and President for those that won't take the time to look it up.
We have to get the masses involved to make change-athletically speaking and for the endowment.
Hey, I'm just a frustrated fan that sees no end to his frustration.
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Actually I though a messageboard was a place to exchange ideas and yes, rave and rant if that is what you want to do. And being a contributing fan for over 30 years, I don't think I need your advice on who, when, or how to communicate. Frankly, I see a lot of excuses in the above response. Poor NT does not have a traditional giving fan base, has to compete with pro sports, historical indifference to the athletic program, etc. IMO, this is the type of thinking that has held NT back for decades. I am sure there were masses of people that thought Louisville was crazy to think they could compete with the great Kentucky University and the local fan base only cared about horse racing and basketball.
Good post GrandGreen. All I hear about are past excuses. Poor ole NT. No wonder our Endowment is a embarassingly paltry $40 million. NT leaders should be ashamed.
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I think you mistake "team" with the word "program".
Just because we had a couple of good teams like in the late 60s and mid 70s doesn't mean we had a better program in place.
Just playing in Fouts alone made us a worse program. We've never had a big donor base or season ticket base. Hell, we were, maybe still are behind a school like Idaho in donor and season ticket base. We still are behind programs like Boise and ULa La.
I'm not making excuses and I would much rather look forward than look behind and i'm certainly not feeling sorry for good ol NT.
O.K. Rob, time to take it outside!
Seriously, Idaho should be interesting to watch with Erickson at the helm. Not saying he's a Price or a Petrino?, but he has been around big time programs before.
I know NT is behind so many programs, but how or can we get out of this endless rut? If there is no way out and we don't even try, why bother to even support what little we do have. I'm aging fast with this program.
Oh, and BTW, I emailed the article to NT's new President.
Geeze, I'm starting to sound like Plummer on this thread!
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I'm not making excuses, i'm just telling you we can't do it the "Louisville way".
At least not in the short term. We don't have a nationally known/NCAA championship BBall program to help fund our athletic department.
You want to follow Boise's plan, I'm all for it. But if you want to say "why can't we do this" and post that article, I can give you a bunch of reasons. Starting with, our BBall program costs us a lot of money, theirs makes them a lot of money.
You guys want an overnight fix, well sorry it ain't gonna happen.
The article said it took Louisville 9 years, one year ahead of schedule, to meet their goals. This is not an overnight fix. Ten years is very reasonable to me. Point is, at least they new the direction they wanted to go, created a plan, and worked the plan.
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While an interesting article, their situation was/is nothing like ours.
They were drawing 15k per BBall game. They are the only game in town in a major metropolitan area. That's a lot of money to draw from.
Rob, with all due respect, we can always come up with excuses and reasons why NT can't do it and so and so university had this going for them. So how did Boise become the next darling of D1A like Louisville? It certainly wasn't their 15K fan basetball attendance. And no, BSU is not a Louisville. Yet.
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"The rise of Louisville football has more to do with 21st-century marketing than 20th-century tradition."
Whether or not the 12th-ranked Cardinals ( 2-0) defeat No. 17 Miami (1-1), the university president, James Ramsey, says the team’s impact on campus goes far beyond the 71-30 record the team has posted the past eight years.
On Friday, Ramsey held a celebration for thousands of faculty, staff and students on the lawn in front of Grawemeyer Hall. It honored goals that were met more than a year early on a 10-year academic plan. Among them were doubling the university’s endowment and increasing the number of endowed chairs and professorships.
“The football team, and the athletics program, has helped transform this university from a financially struggling metropolitan commuter school to a major research university that is attractive to the best faculty and students in the country,” Ramsey said.“They have helped us raise our profile and opened up new markets for recruitment,’’ Ramsey added. “This is a very different institution than it was eight years ago.”
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"This is an interesting article about Louisiville and how they grew their football program. It talks about how the football team has elevated the entire university while going to eight straight bowl games."
This is what athletics mean to some universities. And don't forget, Louisville use to be in the same league as North Texas. Amazing how some schools get the picture. And then there are those who..........oh, never mind.
September 16, 2006
At Louisville, a Big-Time Program Without the Tradition
By JOE DRAPE
LOUISVILLE, Ky., Sept. 15 — It will be different for the Louisville athletic director, Tom Jurich, on Saturday when the Cardinals take the field against Miami. First, the game will be played in daylight. Second, it will be televised on ABC. Best of all, a Louisville victory means thoughts of a national title will live here another week.
The Cardinals, after all, are a team with little tradition, a team that entered the nation’s consciousness recently by agreeing to play Tuesday, Thursday — any night that ESPN asked. When Jurich came here in the fall of 1997, he had to plead with Adidas to let him buy shoes and gear for the team at retail prices.
“I offered them signs and billboards that they didn’t want just so my coaches could tell recruits that we were an Adidas school,” Jurich said.
No more. Louisville, which now plays in the Big East Conference, has gone to a bowl game eight consecutive years.
The rise of Louisville football has more to do with 21st-century marketing than 20th-century tradition.
The most famous Cardinal of them all, the late Hall of Famer Johnny Unitas, played on teams that won only seven games over three seasons in the early 1950’s. The ESPN analyst Lee Corso was 28-11-3 as the coach from 1969 to 1972. Howard Schnellenberger’s record was below .500 over 10 years, but he gave Louisville one of its most memorable seasons, going 10-1 in the 1990 season and beating Alabama in the Fiesta Bowl.
When Jurich arrived from Colorado State, he had the good fortune of inheriting a new 42,000-seat stadium, and the foresight to hire an old friend, John L. Smith, who had been the coach at Utah State and employed a wide-open, high-scoring passing game. Smith, now the coach at Michigan State, brought along an innovative offensive coordinator, Bobby Petrino.
“It was by plan,” Jurich said. “We needed to play entertaining football on the field, and off it we needed change — no shock — to our culture.”
Just as he had wheedled a deal with Adidas, Jurich offered his high-scoring football team to ESPN programmers. Of Louisville’s 44 television appearances since 1998, 36 have been on ESPN networks.
“We’ve been on television every night but Monday,” he said. “It was tough on our fans, but we were reaching potential recruits and football fans.”
Soon, however, the Louisville faithful embraced nighttime tailgating, and sellouts became the rule.
Whether or not the 12th-ranked Cardinals ( 2-0) defeat No. 17 Miami (1-1), the university president, James Ramsey, says the team’s impact on campus goes far beyond the 71-30 record the team has posted the past eight years.
On Friday, Ramsey held a celebration for thousands of faculty, staff and students on the lawn in front of Grawemeyer Hall. It honored goals that were met more than a year early on a 10-year academic plan. Among them were doubling the university’s endowment and increasing the number of endowed chairs and professorships.
“The football team, and the athletics program, has helped transform this university from a financially struggling metropolitan commuter school to a major research university that is attractive to the best faculty and students in the country,” Ramsey said.
“They have helped us raise our profile and opened up new markets for recruitment,’’ Ramsey added. “This is a very different institution than it was eight years ago.”
The success of football has also helped Jurich raise $200 million privately for the athletic department; $16.5 million of it was spent on Cardinal Park, a multisport complex. It not only helped 12 of Louisville’s sports teams earn national rankings last year, but it increased the number of sports available to women and has become a focal point in the city because it is used by local high schools.
The university built new dormitories and doubled the number of students living on campus. It was Louisville’s entry into the Big East last season, however, that has increased donations for academics and athletics.
“Those two areas fuel each other,” said Harry Jones, a Louisville native who is also a former chairman of the university’s board of trustees and a major donor. “Now you’re not only catching the eyes and ears of potential students, you’re being put out in front of top-flight faculty and researchers. By raising the money and spending it, it lets them know that we’re committed to being the very best that we can be.”
Louisville demonstrated how willing it was to pursue elite status in football last July when it signed Petrino to a 10-year, $25 million contract. He was 29-8 over three seasons, including an 11-1 mark in 2004 when the Cardinals led the nation in total offense (539 yards a game) and scoring (49.7 points a game).
Each season, Petrino has attracted the attention of premier football schools like Auburn and L.S.U. He turned down a lucrative offer to coach the Oakland Raiders.
“We think he’s one of the brightest minds in coaching, and we weren’t going to lose him because of dollars,” Jurich said.
Petrino said he got the message that Louisville was committed to him, and so did the rest of college football.
“We want to win a national championship here,” he said. “I know I can see that level of commitment, and I know the resources are here.”
It was considered a recruiting coup when the junior quarterback Brian Brohm and the senior running back Michael Bush — each considered Heisman Trophy contenders until Bush broke his leg against Kentucky in the opener — were persuaded to stay at home and play for the Cardinals.
Next year, another highly rated quarterback will play for Louisville: Matt Simms, the son of the former Giants quarterback Phil, and the brother of the Buccaneers quarterback, Chris.
To Brohm, the program’s present and future seem bright, and national titles seem to be in reach.
“I talk to recruits a lot, and they see that we have as good as talent as any other school, and as good as facilities,” Brohm said. “We’re on television, the stadium is packed and wild. Instead of living up to somebody else’s history, we have everything in place to make our own.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/16/sports/n...int&oref=slogin
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And guess what, UNT will still be irrelevant as long as we keep getting blown out in OOC games and can't get into a better conference. So if you really don't care about the celebration of mediocrity that is UNT football, then thanks a lot, people like you are why we are at best and afterthought in college football. Pardon us for wanting better.
Heck, I'm to the point now that moving to a better conference is on the backburner. As is a new stadium. We need to fix what we have. That is, start winning the OOC games, being competitive against top BCS competition, and winning the SBC. I'm talking NT becoming top dog every year with an exciting brand of football. Right now and for the past eight years, it's just not getting done.
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I would rather see how NT fairs against BCS competition by comparing our record to those of our immediate peers like Tulsa, La Tech, Houston, Boise, etc. I really don't care how Buffalo, Ball State, and other low brow non-BCS programs do in similar matchups.
I know, NT is now part of the low brow, but you get my point.
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How about sending a letter to Dickey with the questions we want answered and with the (real) names of those who want their names attached to it?
Would be hard to ignore if it was sent to C®apper, RV, DD, RF, etc.
Cool, I just accidentally learned how to make the registered trademark symbol.
Running the football is a ™ of dickey ball.
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Has anyone reported an overall slowdown in the response of this board? I've noticed that the speed is just not as responsive as it was before the software changeover. For the record, I'm on business roadrunner(digital cable) at the office and regular roadrunner at home.
Just curious.
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I am walking down Waikiki Beach this morning wearing my toothpaste green "North Texas" shirt. This dude sees me coming and makes a face of disgust. He says "I lost a lot of money on your team." We passed each other and he turns around and says, "Can't you all even score?" I smiled and said "at home!"
moral of the story - NEVER take UNT on the road to cover because in an OOC game Dickey is going to treat a road OOC game as a scrimmage to get players playing time for conference play. I am convinced he does not care to win these games. He knew SMU was our Fiesta Bowl this year and mission accomplished. Playing competitive in conference (I can't even say "winning the conference") would be the icing on a good year. Next year it's win at SMU a tougher task.
For the first time ever I didn't find myself glued to the radio to listen to the game. I stayed busy cleaning my office with the internet on, but did not hang on every play. I have the same level of energy towards Mean Green football going into Akron. Just feel like a burned out fan after last season. The NATION needs a spark!
gmg
Good post NMGreen. Sadly, I concure.
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13. At the next home game, when we have amassed a total of 42.5 yards of total offense at halftime, will you be on the lookout for Silver Eagle when you're leaving the pressbox and hearing "you're being outcoached, Ramon"?
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