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1 hour ago, UNTLifer said:
My concern would be this comment from the article relating to his dismissal at Purdue:
“But, after a terrible year on defense and rumors of Coach Diaco having a complete disconnect with staff and other players - we are moving on”
I saw that too. But, I don't know what to make of it. It could be a cultural fit issue. Indiana isn't Texas. LT fans said he is an odd dude, but they loved having him for a DC and didn't want to lose him. Plus, Littrell has to hit a home run with this hire. If he wants to get a high caliber DC, he may have to take a guy with some baggage. Better that than add another buddy for a P5 that lives among the defensive bottom feeders of the FBS.
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Herman was only at Texas for 4 season. In that time he went 54-22 with 4 bowl wins... and it wasn't good enough to keep his job. Plus, it will cost Texas $24 million to push him out the door. I love their commitment to high standards. But, I agree. Sarkisian isn't going to get them Big12 championships, and certainly not playoff appearances. They should poach Matt Campbell from Iowa State.
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4 minutes ago, UNTLifer said:
Shows him as the DC at Purdue.
He has been let go.
Purdue fires defensive coordinator Bob Diaco after one season (msn.com)
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I think I have found our DC....
He was LA Tech DC in 2019 for their 10-3 season when they beat Miami (the U) in the Independence Bowl (They beat us 52-17 in Ruston that season). He has also been a DC at Notre Dame, Nebraska, Cincinnati, Central Michigan, and Purdue this past season. Daico also won the Broyles award when he was the DC at Notre Dame. Plus, he played for Hayden Fry at Iowa. Thoughts?
He was suggested by an LT fan on the conference board.
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Just now, peanuts104 said:Can't do that when politicians shut everything down. We must hold authoritarians accountable, whether their name is Biden, Trump, newsom, or abbott.
You can't hold them accountable on a message board. Just sayin'.
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1 minute ago, peanuts104 said:Nah. I'll be an asshole. Also F abbot.
Let sports be about sports, and leave the politics out of it.
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I'd like for UNT to take a look at Ron Collins. He seems to have a lot of the qualities we are looking for in a DC. Big time experience as a DC at Colorado. G5 success as a DC at Boise State. He is currently the DC at Ohio, where his 2020 defense held opponents to just 16.7 points per game (10th in the nation), and 389 yards per game. Of course Ohio only played 3 games this season. In 2019, his first season as DC at Ohio, his defense allowed 27 points per game and 401.5 yards per game.
Ohio University (ohiobobcats.com)
The MAC programs are poor. Certainly we could pay more. I'd look at the USA Today salaries, but they aren't including the G5 programs this year.
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10 minutes ago, GrandGreen said:
Rare to see someone have such insight into the inner working of CUSA.
Yes, every aspect of the conference have regressed since UH, SMU and others bolted.
NT is only in CUSA because those teams moved on.
So I fail to see how you see the breakup of old CUSA was a problem for NT.
I guess it would be if you really consider the SunBelt a better option for NT.
It is not unless you want to base your evaluation only on recent football success.
If Judy is not doing the job, than the league's administration can make a change. Apparently, they don't view her performance the same as you do.
North Texas got into C-USA because SMU moved on. That was the only move that opened up a spot for UNT.
Judy isn't doing her job well. Unfortunately, many the league's administrators aren't doing a good job either, and they are connected. We appear to the be only C-USA program that has retired the body bag game scheduling philosophy. ODU and a few other programs opening complain about being in C-USA. Plus, the Sun Belt is actually improving, which only magnifies the current shortcomings of C-USA. In my opinion, their is enough blame to go around.
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3 hours ago, RiseUNT said:
So last year we fire the OC and DC. Then during the year our QB coach gets arrested. Now our DC gets fired.
When is the HC held responsible?
You have posted the truth and asked a very reasonable question... that too many on this board don't want to address.
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31 minutes ago, UNTLifer said:
Don’t recall and am not paying to read an article from month’s ago. Honestly, predicting next year’s record right now is just plain stupid but it doesn’t change my statement that we are capable of beating anyone is CUSA.
Today is the first day of the Year, which means it is the first day of the month. You can read the article for free. I'd love to know how many wins you thought North Texas would have at the end of the 2020 season.
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16 minutes ago, UNTLifer said:
SMU, Missouri and Liberty will be tough although we really have no idea what SMU will have next year. As, I clearly stated in my post above, there isn’t a team in CUSA that we can’t beat. Thought I was pretty clear.
Okay. Just curious... how many wins did you predict for this past season?
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Just now, UNTLifer said:
Hell yes I am serious. There isn’t a team in CUSA that we don’t have the talent to beat, period. We need the coaches to put them in the position to win.
Show me the wins on next season's schedule.
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1 minute ago, MCMLXXX said:
Mike Stoops would be a good choice. Currently an analyst at Alabama. His years at Oklahoma should give him familiarity with recruiting in the State of Texas.
Be careful. I named Stoops in another thread and got a down vote.
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I hope Seth has some help picking the next DC. He has a bad track record of hiring for that position.
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On 12/31/2020 at 12:34 AM, UNTLifer said:
And what is we have a successful season next year? I currently see a 1 win OCC, but what if we win the West and the conference championship?
Sure in Littrell's system they have put up yards. Aune threw for over 300 yards against UTEP, Charlotte, and Southern Miss. Three teams that finished their seasons with losing records. And, we only won the game against UTEP. Bean didn't post a 300 yard game this season, but he ran for some big yards.
Looking at the yardage Littrell's high flying offenses post is misleading. Against any team with a pulse, it doesn't really get off the ground in the first half of games.
We put up over 500 yards against SMU, but most of those yards were gained in the second half of the game after SMU had put the game on ice. Remember the score was already 34-7 at halftime. Sure, Littrell's offense put up yards a scored in the second half, but the game was already over by that time.
Against UTSA, his offense never got off the ground. We were down 28-7 at halftime, before going on to lose by a score of 49-17. And, most of our 401 yards of offense came in the second half.
Seth's offense posted 479 yards against Charlotte, but only put 21 points in our loss. Charlotte, a team that only won 2 games this past season. And again, most of our points and yardage occurred in the second half of the game once we were already beat. Remember, we were already down 28-7 early in the 3rd quarter.
We showed some fight against LA Tech, but Littrell's system only posted 386 yards in that game. Not enough to win against a winning program.
In our bowl game we were down 35-14 by halftime and Ap State was cruising to an easy bowl win. Again the majority of our 497 yards of offense and half of our points were gained in the second half of a blowout loss.
The data clearly proves that Littrell's offensive system isn't as effective as its national ranking would indicate. Our problems are bigger than just the defense.
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28 minutes ago, dml7007 said:
I think next year will be the year to determine if Seth has it to succeed here. I that if we get a spring season and normal off-season that we may see a big improvement. I think his early success may have hampered our development. I think this year was tough to implement and we know lots of our missing players weekly we’re on defense.
Every coach faced these same issues. They were not exclusive to Littrell. UTSA was without their defensive coordinator for the second half of their season, but they still managed to develop that unit under a first year head coach and new DC (that was suspended). By the way they pounded us 49-17. UTSA had a more abnormal year than us, but still improved their program. Another year won't fix our problems. Fixing our issues starts with hiring a new head coach.
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On 12/31/2020 at 12:34 AM, UNTLifer said:
And what is we have a successful season next year? I currently see a 1 win OCC, but what if we win the West and the conference championship?
Serious? Where do you see the wins that would give us the western division title?
Right now, @SMU, @Missouri, Liberty, @LA Tech, UAB, and UTSA all look like loses to me (maybe @Rice, @USM, & @UTEP too). I'm not saying I think we go winless in the west, just with none of our easier games at home, going winless in the western division next season is an actual possibility. Certainly more of a possibility than winning the division.
We have 5 seasons of data on Littrell's coaching. It is far more likely that Littrell leads the team to another losing season. Maybe next off season more fans will open their eyes and raise their expectations, instead of holding on to the failed belief that Seth will figure out how to beat a team with a winning record, learn how to use the transfer portal, and build a real defense.
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I'd like to pick up a name hire with a history of quality defenses. Just spit-balling a few off the top of my head, and in no particular order...
None of these guys are currently working as defensive coordinators.
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1 minute ago, El Paso Eagle said:
So a disastrous 9-20 tenure in Arizona is not a reflection of his coaching? His last 5 years at A&M he was under .500 in conference. Based on your comparison, his best two years at A&M (2012-2013) were with talent from another coach.
I'm as pissed at Seth as most, but I'm not so sure what people are seeing that leads them to think Sumlin is the answer other than the "anyone but Seth" feelings.
I don't see it as a complete refection of his coaching. Even within the bad steak at Arizona, Sumlin managed to upset a #19 Oregon team along the way. When factoring in his success at Texas programs A&M and Houston, yes... I think he is better than Littrell. Plus, I don't think Sumlin is the only answer. I'm sure there are other options out there too. I just know I have no more faith in Littrell to lead our program.
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You opt out during the week before the game. At halftime that's called quitting on your team. Sad.
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26 minutes ago, Cr1028 said:
I had no idea that Creighton Barr, Nate Brooks, James Grey, Roderick Young, Kelvin Smith, Jeff Wilson, Trevor Moore, and James Jones could play quarterback at a NFL level but I will take your word for it.
And while you are tooting your horn about a 7-win season at Texas A&M being success, consider 1 of those wins was against FCS Nicholls State, 2 were against G5 schools (ULL and UNM) the other 4 were SEC wins (4-8 Arkansas, 6-6 Ole Miss, 4-7 Florida, and their one quality win over 9-4 South Carolina).
A failed attempt to redirect and change your argument....
Those players I named were all major reasons why Littrell's teams were successful in 2017 and 2018. You can overlook their contributions if you choose, but the facts remain, Littrell hasn't posted a winning season since Mac's old players ran out of eligibility.
And, Sumlin is a better coach.
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Yeah, I could see waiting until after the Christmas and New Year holiday to fire coaches... unless there are bonuses for still being employed by the university in 2021.
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1 hour ago, Cr1028 said:
So he won some bowl games with the one of it not THE largest budget in all of college football? He only has one bowl win that didn’t include a Heisman-level quarterback someone else recruited. He beat OU with JFF aka Johnny Manziel and his only bowl win in Houston was with Case Keenum. His bowl record in Houston was 1-1. Bowl record at A&M was 3-2. At Arizona it was 0-0, fired after 3 seasons and no bowls. In 13 season as a head coach, how many conference championships does Kevin Sumlin have? Zero, zero is the answer. That is the same number as Seth Littrell, even after Art Briles and Mike Sherman left the pond stocked for him. Littrell has to start from nothing. Sumlin has one more division title in 13 season than Seth has in 5. Seth didn’t need to inherit an NFL quarterback to do it either. Seth found his own.
Sumlin has 9 winning seasons in his 13 years as a head coach. Littrell has 2 winning seasons in 5 years as a head coach. Plus, Sumlin won against much better competition.
You can claim Sumlin's success was due to the talent he inherited, but it isn't the truth. Sumlin coached for 6 seasons at A&M, the players he inherited graduated, and he was still winning at least 7 games a season with his recruits for the last few seasons in College Station. By contrast, Littrell's most successful season were when he still had some of Mac's players on the roster. So, Seth didn't start from nothing. In fact you are not giving credit to some players that were brought in under Mac. Creighton Barr, Nate Brooks, James Gray, Rodrick Young, Kelvin Smith, Jeff Wilson, Trever Moore, and James Jones; were all Mac recruits that were key to Littrell's only successful seasons (2017 and 2018). Now that all of those old Mac players are gone, Littrell's teams can't even reach the .500 mark. The bare cupboard defense of Littrell just doesn't add up when you look at the facts. The truth hurts, but until we get real about where we are and what needs to be done nothing is going to get better.
Ha! I got a down vote for giving credit to some great North Texas players. Someone's triggered. I guess at least one person just doesn't want the truth to be known.
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34 minutes ago, Cr1028 said:
He wasn’t trying to help us. He was trying to demean Sumlin as has everyone I’ve ever talked to who was a fan of a program he ran. We would be worse off with Sumlin than we already are. Thank goodness this will not actually happen because it would be devastating. You guys think he would have been let go by both the Aggies and Zona if he were such a good coach? He won’t be hired by anyone this year unless someone dumb like us picks him up. It would be the North Texas thing to do.
Sumlin has a 95-63 record as a head coach, and he never posted a losing season while at A&M. He won 4 bowl game, beating teams like Oklahoma, and West Virginia. Littrell is 31-31 as a head coach and hasn't beaten a team with a winning record in over two seasons. Plus, Littrell hasn't won a bowl game in 4 tries. Sumlin is obviously a better coach. If you honestly believe .500 Littrell is better, well I just can't help you.
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UT Fires Herman
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They haven't hired him yet. If I were a Texas fan, I'd hope they look around more. I agree Sark is a lateral move at best. No reason to throw away $24 million just to have a new guy of equal or even lesser quality.