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Texas A&M - Commerce is having Arkansas coaches at one of their things. That makes more sense. Highly unlikely that the Razorbacks would be stealing diamonds in the rough from DII schools. No FBS would do tha...whoops! Forgot about our 2016 class.
Carry on.
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How so? Houston returns Ward, a small QB like OU's small QB. So, they will see what they see everyday in practice - a small overachiever who runs when his receivers aren't open.
Houston's top RB and WR are gone. OU returns, perhaps, the best RB in the country, plus the kid who broke the girl's face. And, although OU lost their top WR, Houston graduated both starting safeties and CBs.
In the special teams, Houston's deep snapper, placekicker, and punter graduated; placekicker also handled kickoffs. OU returns everyone there.
Houston also lost their leading tackler, who also led in tackles for loss, and the starting nose from the DL. OU returns 3/4s of their secondary, their starting DT and one DE, and half their LBs.
The long and short of it is, on offense, Greg Ward will be facing an experienced defense which is accustomed to seeing - and, beating - talented QBs. In 2016, Houston has nothing else. That is fine against Tulane and Tulsa and the ACC. OU is a different story. They'll simply have a DE play home and shadow Ward with one of their OLBs.
OU's run game alone would be a load for Houston's defense even had the Cougars returned the top tackler and starting nose guard. Expect OU's kid from the Austin area to open his Heisman campaign with a huge game against Houston.
Throw in that Houston is replacing its entire secondary against a pretty accurate Baker Mayfield in the Sooners' high percentage passing offense, and you are looking at a long day for the Cougar DBs...as well as their coaches and fans who will have to watch it all go down.
Finally, Houston will be breaking in an entirely new kicking units. Again, OU returns all of their starters there.
The only hope Houston really has is for OU to fall asleep. However, because they have national title aspirations - and will have a house full of fans cheering them on there - the likelihood of them falling asleep on Houston is pretty much zero.
Or, they could do what BYU did in 2009 - injure OU"s starting QB early in the game and squeak by the Sooners in the end. That's about the only way Houston will even keep it close.
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2 hours ago, NTXCoog said:
Define vastly for attendance difference. I've shown that UH has over 1/3rd of the tickets already taken despite season ticket sales not being finished and individual tickets not going on sale yet. If not another ticket was sold to UH fans (unlikely), the max difference would be 2 to 1. Even if UH had only it's average attendance from last year at the game and not the higher attendance for the last several games (that SMU Thursday night game when the Texans were playing in town the same night did bad things to the average), UH would have half the seats.
I've shown my numbers on why UH won't be vastly out attended. Can you refute them or show why you think otherwise? Or are you just pulling your attendance thoughts out of your ....?
Vastly will be OU fans at least 2 to 1 over Houston fans. OU Club of Dallas and OU Club of Houston are their two biggest alumni groups in the United State. Add to that the generations of Sooner players from the Houston area, that OU had been on the radio in Houston for half a century, etc.
This is basically a "neutral site" home game for OU that they don't have to split ticket for, like they have to for the Texas game.
Plus, if you think Houston fans a jazzed about 2015, OU just made got finished making the playoff and return most of the offense that got them there. Their fans are just as juiced, and probably more (realistically) so than Houston fans.
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I feel this way about it: you are inviting the Big Boys to look over borderline 2-/3-star kids they may sweep in and steal if one of their other recruits falls through on or near Signing Day.
I don't buy the, "You'll get better athletes at your camp to look at" angle because your chances at those recruits are not good anyway.
So, to me, it's just a way for Tulane to let Texas A&M have a look at the New Orleans "diamonds in the rough" that they would otherwise not lay eyes on.
Smart for TAMU; not so much for Tulane. This is Sumlin taking advantage of Fritz.-
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Maybe Willie Fritz just isn't man enough to run his own camp?
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With Jerry Jones, the question is always, how many millions will it cost us?
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20 hours ago, NTXCoog said:
OU may have its way with UH. Maybe not. But i bet you thought the exact same thing when UH was about to play #9 FSU last year. Everyone except UH fans and some AAC fans thought the same. Boy were they wrong
And you're missing this is not a moved UH home game. This is the Texas Kickoff game. The same game that aTm and ASU last year. The same game as LSU and Wisconsin the year before. It may be a recruiting tool for OU, but was it less of a recruiting tool for those schools? Its also quite likely the attendance will be higher than the aTm game last year. Might be highest of any of the Texas Kickoff games. If so, it wont solely be because of OU unless you think OU has a higher following than aTm and LSU in Houston (they dont)
And if ou fans outnumber uh, it will be by a negligible amount. This game is included in the uh season ticket package. We've already sold about 20k season tickets not counting 5000 student tickets that will be available for the game. Since NRG holds 72k, UH already has over 1/3rd of the seats before season ticket sales are done and before individual tickets go on sale.
OU fans will vastly outnumber Houston fans; and, the Sooners will vastly outscore the Cougars. Houston can then go back to dominating the AAC and having the restaurant guy keep trying to beg his alma mater's way into the (dying) Big 12.
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Is there a way for us to pair up with some other school's coaches? Is this the "New Wave," letting other coaches look at guys in your own camps?
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1 minute ago, Harry said:
Interesting article. Thanks for that.
SEC.
Gotta look at Texas and OU since Texas A&M basically invited the SEC into Texas. It's been pretty ugly for both of them, slightly less for OU because they have traditionally recruited pretty well nationally. But, still...only three Texas recruits for OU this year was pretty eye-opening. -
11 minutes ago, UNT90 said:
Funny how you don't get what a HUGE recruiting tool it is for UH. OU doesn't need to play in Houston to recruit Houston. They are a powerhouse P5 that is extremely well known throughout the State of Texas.
OU does need it because their Texas recruiting has fallen off a bit:
http://newsok.com/article/5476577
http://blatanthomerism.com/articles/2016/2/sooners-recruiting-update-moving-on-to-2017
http://stormininnorman.com/2016/02/15/oklahoma-football-sooners-get-bad-rap-for-dearth-of-texas-recruits/
Texas and OU may have scoffed at A&M going to the SEC. But, whether or not A&M has been a champion there, they have brought many more schools into Texas more often than before. Both OU and Texas have been bit.
OU at the Texans' stadium is nothing more than a showcase for the Sooners. It's more of a shot at keeping up with the new SEC recruiting there than the Cougars.-
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On 5/15/2016 at 0:54 PM, Ben Gooding said:
Well, I could give a laundry list of "why not North Texas." It sounds slightly belittling and for him not to know that was the same BS uttered by old man mccarney is him not doing his research. Also, our social media presence has fizzled away like a fire on a rainy night. Things, and I hate to say this, have lost the little bit of monentum that was built up upon the hiring of a new coach. Tom Herman comes to mind. He took the monentum upon his hire and did everything right going into his first season at UH. He took over social media, connected with former players, got local celebrities to buy into what he was doing, uniforms, billboards, catch phrases/slogans, etc. etc. etc. etc.
This new staff has already kind of grown stagnant, unfortunately.
Having now met and heard Coach Littrell, you have to say, he's a good guy. But, is he the right guy? We'll soon know. He is 180 degrees different than McCarney in that he's not the type to fire up a crowd with a speech, that's for sure.
There are been any number of coaches who were not outwardly rah-rah/overly emotional who coached well. Tom Osborne. Tom Landry. Chuck Noll. If this rosterful of kids is one that responds more to a lowkey coach that a loud coach, we're in good stead, that's for sure.
The important things are going to be the same as always:
-are the assistants worth a damn in getting the new systems programmed into the current roster, and
-are the players going to give a damn enough to buy into the new systems and go at it full throttle.
Those are the things remaining to be seen. If not, we're cooked. If so, we have better recruiting, at the least. to give ourselves a chance at becoming consistent winners.
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On 5/13/2016 at 4:29 PM, UNT90 said:
Could anyone every imagine the Hattiesburg Hustler saying these words? Ever?
Take a look, folks, that's what a real program does.
I have a feeling you are completely wrong.
Houston is coming off a win over Florida St., the previous season's national champion when Houston beat them.
Plus, Houston is actually playing a big boy in their home city. Alums will travel back to Houston for this game in droves.
If you want to know why UNT is such a failure, it's demonstrated in the mindset of this very post. "Hey, we got SMU at home. I mean, it just can't get any better" and then trying to make fun of a program that is light years ahead of where UNT has ever and will ever be.
Just...
They are playing Oklahoma at the Texans' stadium. Oklahoma will have its way with Houston, you can count on that. And, the Sooners will have more fans in the stands, you can count on that. That is why they are playing it at the Texans' stadium - Houston's stadium wouldn't hold enough OU fans for OU to bother scheduling the game.
It's a pure recruiting tool for OU.
2 hours ago, untjim1995 said:I think a lot of posters here look at UH and think we should be equals with them in football or basketball, just because we are both large, public universities that serve the two largest metro areas in the state. But that cannot be more false. UH has focused on athletics for its primary window to their school--Yeoman's Veer Offense of the 70s and 80s that turned them into a power that kicked butt in the SWC when they finally got admitted in 1976, Phi Slama Jamma was a national phenomenon, Elvin Hayes and UH beat Lew Alcindor and UCLA on national TV in the Astrodome, and then you've got the recent success under Briles, Sumlin, and now Herman, which has gotten bigger and better with each coach. Their alumni that give back do so because of the athletic pride the school has delivered to their degree value in Houston and in the state. Our primary windows have always been music and the arts, as well as cheap cost of attendance. Those windows don't deliver $$$ back to your university, but they do allow for your school to provide a lot of job security when thousands attend every year out of convenience and low cost.
It just boils down to the philosophy of the leadership of your university. One felt that athletics was a better way to go because their students and alumni wanted it that way. The other felt the exact opposite, which is what the overwhelming number of its alumni and students prefer. None of this should be all that surprising as to how it has played out...
Agree. And, Houston did not drop down to I-AA for over a decade either.
We've never had the visibility in football or basketball as Houston, no matter how far back you go. If you are going to complain about the leadership now, go ahead and include the leadership way back when as well when we didn't get into the SWC.
To me, the key was not understanding the ramifications of the OU/Georgia suit against the NCAA for TV rights. We were mired in the I-AA back then. After the win by OU/Georgia, television rights became the thing. Notre Dame jumped in feet first, along with most major conferences. Us...nowhere to be found. We were hiring a high school football coach from...Marshall, TX.
People can beat on RV all you want. Where we find ourselves took decades of mismanagement. Rick's got us facilities and on track academically, and has continued to guide all the programs without drawing any penalties from the NCAA. We're clean.
After his contract runs out, then we'll see what the next guy can do. Hopefully, he'll take the clean program and great facilities Rick leaves, and take it up a notch.
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At the Plano Caravan, these words, first spoken by Dan McCarney, came out of Seth Littrell's mouth:
"Yeah, why not North Texas?"So...
...there's that. They are of the same mind in, at least, one regard. Which, is nice?
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Hmmm. Trying to compare his school to Clemson and Alabama?
We'll see what happens right out of the chute this year because they open with Oklahoma. Oklahoma alumni are all over Houston, same as Dallas because of the petroleum engineering jobs down there; OU cranks out tons of those and Texas companies snap them up.
I'd be shocked if there weren't more OU fans at NRG that day...thousands more as OU shows Houston how a Clemson- or Alabama-like fan base shows up no matter where the game is.
Houston might hang around for a quarter or two...but, I doubt it. OU returns the QB, RBs, most of their WRs, and plenty on defense. Houston coach is, I'm afraid, writing checks his team can't cash...and, pitifully/pointlessly, doing it at SMU's expense.
What a tough guy.
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Here's another thought to throw in with equestrian, beach volleyball, and bowling: rifle. Looks like about 13-15 member squads; although, UTEP only has five. Close to 40 year history as an NCAA sport. Surely, there are some girls in the DFW area who grew up hunting or shooting competitively.
TCU and UTEP are the only other Texas schools with rifle squads: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NCAA_rifle_programs
http://www.ncaa.com/sports/rifleTCU: http://www.ncaa.com/sports/rifle
UTEP: http://www.utepathletics.com/sports/w-rifle/mtt/utep-w-rifle-mtt.html...and, yes, Kentucky does have a rifle team!
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I know nothing about the equestrian set ups. Does anyone else?
UNT, for sure, is close too many horse farms. At the schools that have equestrian, where do they keep the horses and their equipment - on campus or off? We have plenty of room nearby, do we not? Am I correct to say the school owns lands up around the 288 loop - or, I am remembering incorrectly?
Looks like, from a coaching staff standpoint, you'd need a full-time keeper or two for the horses.
Here's Oklahoma State's site, four coaches: http://www.okstate.com/roster.aspx?path=equest#coaches_anchor
TCU, four: http://www.gofrogs.com/sports/w-equest/mtt/tcu-w-equest-mtt.html
Baylor, four: http://www.baylorbears.com/sports/w-equest/mtt/bay-w-equest-mtt.htmlAnd, I've answered my own question...four coaches everywhere it seems.
Facilities, equestrian:
Baylor: http://www.baylorbears.com/facilities/willis.htmlTCU's is in Springtown, north of Azle: http://www.baylorbears.com/facilities/willis.html
Oklahoma State's is in Stillwater, just west of the campus: http://www.okstate.com/sports/2015/3/17/GEN_20140101205.aspx?path=equest
Many horse farms along 380 and in around Argyle, correct? If we don't have University owned land up by 288?
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Bowling, Beach Volleyball, Equestrian...all good. Beach Volleyball seems like it would be lowest cost from the equipment standpoint. Although, there are only three other schools in Texas fielding teams, so the travel might be more expensive?
Houston Baptist
TCU
Texas A&M - Corpus Christi
In Louisiana, you've got: LSU, ULM, and New Orleans.Perhaps we could league up with them and the inland ones from Tennessee, Carson-Newman and Lincoln Memorial, and Mississippi State.
58 minutes ago, Greenrex said:This is the best idea. Ever.
Be sure to not make any comments on here that would let the adults know what we're doing it for.Nah, look...
They make the girls wear full shorts and shirts in college, so you can't perv them like the pro beachers who go out in tiny bikinis.
See, the difference:
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Good point. Although, I think the volleyballers come from player's whose parents spend endless amounts of money on year round stuff, these days, competitive leagues, travel teams, and whatnot.
How does equestrian jibe with the NCAA? Looks like they have their own governing body, the NCEA: http://www.collegiateequestrian.com/schools/main/
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True. Forgot baseball's 11.7 were spread across 35 players.
Forget lacrosse, then...beach volleyball's a no-brainer.
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It's good enough, but the roster's only have 16 players,need more for baseball. The costs look minimal, so add beach volleyball and, maybe, lacrosse?
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KA-POW! '95, you may have been joking, but apparently this really is a college thing. NCAA sponsored the championship for the first time this year! And, we've got locals already coaching up gals to do it.
http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/high-school/highschoolheadlines/2015/08/08/meet-those-behind-one-of-fastest-growing-sports-in-north-texas-beach-volleyballhttp://www.ncaa.com/sports/beach-volleyball
And, played in Gulf Shores, no less:
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9 hours ago, Ben Gooding said:
Well, actually, it's been proven that quality athletics drives academics, applications, set standards, etc. for a university. Ask the Ivy's how the opposite is treating their athletic programs.
Really? Explain Rice, any Ivy League school of your choice, Tulane, Vanderbilt, etc. You really think these schools are suffering because they lack great athletic programs. Go check their endowments. You think a kid who is accepted to, say, Brown, says..."gee, I'd like to go there, but the football is terribly average. Memphis is on a roll, surely I can get it there instead!"
Again, athletics will not be high on the list of my kids when it comes to choosing a college...I know because I'll be writing the tuition checks.-
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43 minutes ago, NorthTexan95 said:
I have the answer. Women's beach volleyball. build enough stands around the court and it have the second highest attendance of any sport at UNT.
Yes! Start a GoFundMe page for that. Match the baseball funds, and we're there!
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1 minute ago, MeanGreenTexan said:
You don't think if the SEC extended an invite to Miami/Clemson/UNC they wouldn't jump on it in a heartbeat?
Of course they might. But, it's not as likely or threatening to their conference as OU or Texas leaving the Big 12.
Houston's head coach doesn't think SMU is willing to pay the price for a winning football program
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Your devotion is admirable, but I'm not overselling OU. They have better players and more returning starters from a team that was in the Playoff.
I'm not undeselling UH; they lost half of their defense and most of the yards off of their offense. They'll be breaking in too many players on both sides of the ball, plus their entire kicking games, punting and placekicking, in front of 70,000+ drunk, cousin-kissin' OU fans. It will be ugly for UH, sorry.
You are making my point about Ward - he's all Houston has. OU doesn't care. They play against better lines week in and week out than what Houston will show them. Keep the DEs at home, blitz from the corners, and shadow with OLBs.
It's not rocket science.
Dalvin Cook would sit behind either OU running back you choose, Samaje Perine or Joe Mixon. Perine outweighs Cook by 40 pounds as well, is stronger and faster. Mixon is also bigger, plus faster and, even though a backup, caught more passes than Cook last year. OU sometimes lines Mixon up at WR. Doubt Cook is that flexible. As big a headache as Perine will be, Mixon will be a nightmare for UH's DC because OU lines him up all over the offense.
Cook's a nice back. But, Perine and Mixon are ahead of him. And, Houston will have to somehow find a way to stop both of the them. Behind them, where Cook would be on OU's roster, is four-star recruit Rodney Anderson. OU is embarrassingly rich at RB IN 2016. They are big, fast, and will both pound and dice UH's new defensive starters.
Having LBs try to cover Mixon out of the back field will not be pretty. And, because he's a big or bigger than UH's secondary players, they will be punished all day long when Mayfield flips the ball out to him and he gets a full head of steam going.
Look at the bright side...UH will find out early weather their safeties will be good tacklers...or, whether Perine and Mixon leaves their cleat marks in their chests on the way to the end zone over and over again.