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There are 2 ways to move up.
1. You get lucky and a conference needs someone in your footprint, or your market is large enough to get you in.
2. You win and build up the quality of your program, generating interest and national recognition.
Currently we are doing #1. If we want to be invited because we are wanted, not because we are needed we need to put a good product on that field and support it. Not just added because they have a spot to fill. People talk about how playing in CUSA will boost attendance, and it may, but after a while that attendance will slip if we have years of going 2-10 or 1-11. The risk is there for a conference to take someone like us as well as the potential to do great, which is why teams that already realize that potential get the invites. We should not depend on the conference to bring in fans, the TEAM should be what brings in fans. Boise St. did it, and if we can have a record like stAte last year we will go places and BCS bowls.
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Who freaking cares about endowments? We're talking about football, sports. And no, they don't have good facilities and the market is saturated with GTech and GA...no one cares about GAST. I have friends there.
Funny that sounds very much how other conferences view us. DFW is saturated with UT, A&M, Tech, OU, SMU, TCU, the Cowboys, etc. No one cares about UNT, its a commuter school.
The best thing to do is win, that takes care of all perception problems, no matter what your conference is.
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Why do you place any great significance on endowments which has next to nothing to do with athletics? Unless of course, the endowments are to the athletic department. The reason the Belt is considered the bottom of the heap is that it is largely a collection of fc move-ups and/or little known teams. Something that is continuing with the inclusion of Ga St. Resources are a key issue, but that has to do with athletic facilities and budgets, not a school's endowment. You do know that endowments are mostly restricted funds that are seldom spent but generate investment income that is primarily used for scholarships, faculty compensation and research.
A poorly funded school will lack in all departments. Better funding means better teachers, better students, better alumni, higher prestige for your school, and ultimately better donations. It all ties in together. Sure endowments aren't a direct reflection of athletics, but are you going to say that the school that has 7.6 million in the bank is better prepared than the school who has 160 million?
They have the funds to make a good financial investment in their school, be it facilities, academics, scholarships, etc. Or do you disagree?
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Did no one see my previous post?
Not that endowment is everything but look at where ours is and we have done some great things.UNT: 100 million
Georgia St: 166 million
UNC Charlotte: 140.9 million
(my personal favorites)
Old Dominion- 136 million
VCU- 349.7 million
VS current Sunbelt teams
UALR- 7.6 million
ASU- 9.6 million
ULL- 58 million
ULM- 20 million
MTSU- 34.9 million
Troy- $389, 466.... I hope that's wrong.
any way you slice it thats pretty pathetic. Only 4 other schools beat the "start ups". If they can compete so can these others.
Only these teams have comparable endowments
FAU- 156 million
FIU- 138 million
USA- 384 million
WKU- 109.9 million
But I guess its hard to face the facts with numbers. Georgia St. was voted in because they have a good chunk of change to draw on, good market, good facilities, good name, etc. The same reason we built our facilities, to move up.
Wake up people, THE REASON WHY THE SBC IS AT THE BOTTOM IS THE LACK OF MONEY/RESOURCES THE TEAMS HAVE! Look at those endowments. $389,000?? Seriously? If we can contribute with our funds and build up our program so can they. Only two programs have a higher endowment ,TWO. So how is it that we can be putting this team down already?
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The refs definitely called a different second half than a first. They were letting them play and then it seemed to me that every little thing was called in the second, or is it just me? Not saying the refs took it from us, they just changed the style of play. I blame our players not keeping the foot on their necks more than them playing great.
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To qualify as a D-1 football subdivision conference, eight teams are required. Utah State needs to get on the phone and try to get a new conference constructed of the following schools: Utah State, Idaho State, Boise State, Colorado State, Wyoming, Air Force Academy, Brigham Young University and University of Nevada, Las Vegas.
I love how people throw around teams with out a remote chance of getting them to move. Boise St. is Big East bound, if not just staying in MWC/Alliance. Does this guy really think they will say "Sure, we would love to make a new conference with Utah State." Why would BYU, CSU, AF, and UNLV do that? This is USU's desperate plea of "Everyone do what will benefit me, and help me!"
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Can we call it the Big 14?
Numbers don't really matter when it comes to conference names...
No. The Big12 has the Big14 and 16 copyrighted I believe.
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I would love to take the name "The Big South Conference" but thats already taken.
What about"
The Great South Conference
The Gulf 12 Conference
The Big Gulf Conference
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I wouldn't be surprised if he goes for UTSA and TSSM and leaves out LATech because I'm sure the Texas Schools voted to extend Benson's contract, if they had a vote. I could see him lifting the middle finger to those who voted against him. I don't see any other elaborate plan.
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Now that we are with Nike are there any plans to go the their Pro Combat uniforms in football? and Hyper Elite in basketball?
Are there any renderings or a timeline to expand Apogee?
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I think we really need a new member in the East if we add any of TXST, UTSA, Tech, etc.
Someone like Appalachian State, or Old Dominion.
I see many people here pushing for UTA as a non-football but what about VCU? I think that would be a better choice.
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If he destroys the WAC without us going further west than NMSU I'll be fine with it.
Funny how the WAC talked about bouncing back and rebuilding. Even their commissioner ditched them.
PS i hate the term "Commish." It sounds like you have limp wrist syndrome.
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I would love someone like Old Dominion or VCU as a non-football member. Helps with the teams out west and adds a great team. Eventually ODU could move their football in.
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Some of you may be confused because you don't know the context of the picture. Just ask if you don't.
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Some more good ones from that FB page. Most aren't BB related but still hilarious.
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With all the CUSA defections and if they don't merge with the Mountain West is this still a better conference then the Belt? While there might be some name recognition with these schools is the conference long term viability better then where we are?
The only value CUSA now has is Tulsa, ECU, and USM. To a lesser extent for us UTEP. I still think that those teams hold more name recognition than most SBC schools.
CUSA has truly been gutted.
Memphis has some mega-huge boosters that are highly influential (CEO of FedEx) and the basketball program is nationally relevant. The word on most of the Big East message boards is that adding Memphis was done in attempt to quell the fire about Cincinnati and Louisville leaving the conference. Pitino openly promoted adding Memphis long before there was talk of adding Houston, SMU, Navy, San Diego State, and Boise State. Memphis can turn their football program around if Fuentes (former TCU offensive coordinator) can recruit some local talent. Basketball-wise, while not what they were under Calipari, are still a solid addition to the conference.
I'm not thrilled about adding Memphis but if it helps in any way to keep Cincy and UL in line I'm all for it.
I hear from Memphis fans that their local radio reported that it was Notre Dame and Louisville that lobbied for Memphis to get in. I can almost bet that those schools both threatened to leave the BE if they weren't added.
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The rush is how they plan to make this work. They want to form a completely new conference and get a new TV deal. We are in one of the largest markets and would give them a significant boost in negotiations.
Yes, and I am sure they are looking over it now. If we get chosen to move up we will, if we don't it proves that we aren't a big enough draw to justify splitting the pie up more. That unfortunately is the hard truth.
The way I see it its win win for us if we play our cards right.
1. The merger fails and CUSA/MWC want to get to 12 teams and we have a good chance with 8 spots available.
2. The merger goes through only if they need more members, we are selected.
3. The merger goes through with current members, or they add other teams that aren't us. The SBC expands to 12 or 14 and comes out strong. Now only 9 FBS conferences remain.
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The C-USA/Mountain West is starting to look really really weak from a media market perspective. There is just not much population in most of these areas. I think they're going to have to risk adding some large market teams even if those teams haven't drawn well historically.
I think the following teams would be the only ones considered
UNT (5th largest market)
San Jose State (6th largest market. Does Fresno help cover this market already?)
FAU or FIU (16th largest market. No need for both)
Middle Tennessee (26th largest market)
Utah State (36th largest market)
San Antonio (37th largest market.
Hmmm....my take would be to take UNT and one of the FU's to get to 18 (move UTEP West). If 20 is possible, then I'd also add MTSU and Utah State.
The problem is there is no rush to add us. Where else are we going to go?? If the merger goes through they could have a few years to work it out and see if they need the extra teams. There is no rush.
Now I'm sure they are running the numbers and seeing what all the options are but if we don't bring enough/the TV partners aren't pushing for it. we aren't going anywhere. That's just the truth.
If the Merger does happen the SBC needs to kill off the WAC. FBS going from 11 to 9 leagues is a huge boost for us and suddenly our conference gets more name recognition. The SBC could come out very well in the end if we can hold and add some teams.
Imagine
NMSU
UNT
ULL
ULM
LA Tech
stAte
WKU
MTSU
South Alabama
Troy
FAU
FIU
If NMSU is too far out west and I'm not even sure I would want LA Tech replace them with UTSA and TXSTSM, or mix and match any of those programs.
If I had my way I would want to push for something big and also get
Appalachian State
Old Dominion
not to mention it would and to accommodate our brothers in the west.
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