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You can bet that Graham Harrell sees himself as successor to Seth in the long haul if everything else works out
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On June 30, 2016 at 9:10 AM, Wag Tag said:
I have complete confidence that Prez Smak down will make the right decision. Fire Mc, hire Seth, fire RV, hire top AD search firm, hire independent consultants. Who was the last Prez that saw the importance of college athletics?
Norval Pohl
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On 7/6/2016 at 5:56 PM, UNTexas said:
I know the 94 team did. In addition to already having limited scholarships as a D1aa. We had a QB in Mitch Maher and receivers like Troy Redwing. Plus, a lot of guys who wanted to seriously play football.
I'm not sure what this team has or is made of. We'll see in 2 months...
Redwine not Redwing
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2 minutes ago, DallasGreen said:
Norval F Pohl President 2000-2006
Reply to who was the last Pres to care about athletics. If you do not have a true commitment from your President and Chairman of the Board of Regents nothing else matters. That means hiring an AD who is a fundraiser or who can hire and supervise one and be held accountable in the long term. In the short term it means redirecting University's assets to athletics until such funds can be raised ( see U of H). Waiting for potential donors to come out of the woodwork is NOT a short term solution at any G5. If we want only to be known for Music we should drop athletics entirely or at least go to non scholarship al la Austin College or Mary Hardin Baylor.
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Norval F Pohl President 2000-2006
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11 hours ago, UNTLifer said:
Because FIU is just filling up that dump of a stadium they call home.
Check FIU's enrollment and student athletic fee and you can see why they can pay a P5. Since we coddle our students we don't have the luxury of those extra funds. Even UAB will be better prepared to compete when it returns in 2017, and we should be well on our way back to FCS or w/o athletics altogether by that time but by golly we will still be the cheapest and that is all that counts here.
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The unanswered question is how do you pay the guarantee to get a P5 team to play in Denton? It is a gamble at best and a break the bank at worst. Denton has proven over and over that it does not understand that without fans in the stands no one wants to play here, and if it were possible to entice them they will want a huge guarantee that UNT can not cover putting even further strain on it's small athletic budget.
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3 hours ago, MeanGreenTexan said:
I think you need to DEFINE "competitive student fee", because ALL students who attend the University are shelling out $11/credit-hour (assuming 2 15-hour semesters = $330/year.) believe the existing student fee is "competitive" enough.... and it is. And if you're basing it off of UTSA's or TXSt's (which, in my opinion are ridiculously too high), then that's short-sighted and greedy.
Just take a look at the MGC #'s and you'll see that each and every student pays more per year in Athletic Fees than the majority of MGC members (at the $250/yr level or less). THIS is the problem sir. Not the Athletics Fee. Stop pushing the heavy burden on the students and demand more from your athletic director who is tasked with drumming-up this kind of money via donations.
And you're mis-informed on your point about paying off Apogee to stop the Athletics Fee. The athletics fee can be in place as long as there is a project where bonds are issued & it's needed. So once Apogee is paid off, if there is any other kind of facilities project going on... like say, an expansion of any building, or adding a new one, the fee stays in place. I certainly hope that there is continual growth for the remainder of our lives. If we sit pat for 15 years (isn't this how long the bonds are for? ...maybe longer) on ALL athletic facilities without touching a single one, we're worse-off than any of us thought.
Apogee bonds were called several years ago. I owned some. Apogee was refinanced with commercial paper. Basically I yield to the majority on this board, just do it quickly and repeal all the student fee and kill athletics at UNT. That is much better than the slow painful death of athletics through the inadequate funding that now exists. Find yourself a new whipping boy. I have better use of my time like volunteer service to UNT and the foundation. May the board and its administrator be wit you I am out of here.
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What untjim95 says above is well said, and I agree with all of it for the most part. In answer to others who would criticize development I would say look at the figures under our relatively new VP for Development. He is doing an excellent job. In fact our planned gifts area is the highest it has been in history. In answer to Harry's point on spending increased revenue that will never be realized from a competitive student fee. RV told me at WingSpan that he could build a baseball stadium tomorrow, but it costs close to $1 million a year to operate a college baseball team. The money is not there and never will be w/o a constant revenue stream that can be counted on each year. With a competitive student fee ( which will never ever happen IMHO) you eliminate the need for your revenue sports to have to completely subsidize your non revenue sports. An increased fee would allow NT to keep talented assistant coaches, generate money for expanded recruiting travel, allow us to upgrade scheduling ( there is no way we can assure we make the guarantee to get a P5 to play in Apogee), and finally pay salaries in the athletic department to keep talent rather than have the constant turnover that now exists. As I come up on 60 years of supporting this program with volunteer time as well as all the money I could personally comitt w/o taking from obligations to support my family I am highly insulted that I be accused of being hypocritical. To just give you an example of how stupidly this student fee legislation was drawn if the debt on Apogee is paid off the student fee reverts to $3 per hour. You can bet any new AD will be forced to keep it refinanced or there is no way our athletics programs can exist.
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Only 3 per cent of that large alumni base gives anything at all back to the university. With lack of a competitive athletic program even in a mid tier league like CUSA, there is no reason to think this will change. Unless you can count on the administration to continue to supplement the lack of an adequate student fee and become even more supportive than it is now, nothing is going to change with a new AD. He will become just as disenchanted as the last one when he realizes all the " potential " here is just an illusion. Apathy in the faculty, community, and students is too entrenched to allow the administration to continue to support an athletic program. The choice is to drop back to FCS or give up your major revenue sport. NT will definitely keep its title as the cheapest, but it will also be the least prestigious and least funded school by its administration and most of all insure that it will remain in the bottom tier of Texas university endowments. The most disappointing thing is we have chosen to be in this position.
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And look where U of H is today---better now than at least 1/2 of the Big 12-2!! When they were left out of the P5 they were "a commuter school" now they are among the most sought after expansion candidates in the nation. Our administration AND students have no clue as to what successful athletics can do for the profile of an instituion of higher education. The next AD will suffer from these same constraints. Hopefully he will come from a program that like North Texas had no support and a small time budget because that is all he will ever get here. Students and alumni would get on board if our administration would show even half the committment to athletics that U of H has shown. Endowments would increase expotentionally as well. We choose to be where we are by lack of committment.
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Yeah this only costs the athletic department $700K that it did not have to keep people from coming to games. But let's shed a few tears for our " special " students who unlike their peers in CUSA get a free ride for half the fee paid by other " normal" students.
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You must enjoy playing to empty bleachers. Go to Lewisville, Plano, Frisco, etc. if you want to see metro cities whom really support all their ISD teams. Denton just sticks to its artsy, fartsey ways as the rest of the metroplex yawns in observing its backward ways of community non-support. BTW how did that stupid fracking ban work out for you??
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Yes the biggest criteria at North Texas will always be that they come cheap and expect little help from the students, administration, or community. He would fit the criteria until he can find a real athletics oriented university to run. He and Seth should be here about the same amount of time---3 years max.
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All of you are kidding yourself if you think anyone wants to step into a job with no support from the top down. Fear of a competitive student fee shows the only way to go is down, we will soon be UTA II.
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2 hours ago, UNTLifer said:
You go to many HS games in Denton?
Why? They even returned tickets to Southlake Carrol a few years ago for a game on national tv. SLC bought those up immediately. Guess they don't have other entertainment options in SLC. Opps forgot that is a Denton standard cop out excuse!
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Denton does not support its own HSs so why would their players want to stay in a non football town like Denton?
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Very sad that University of Idaho is dropping to FCS. I was there this time last year and they have a large campus and are only a few miles from Washington State. May be small market but they have great fans and were greatly competitive for us in the Big West and the Sun Belt. Our attitude of refusing to provide a student athletic fee comparable to our competition will one day force us into this same move or worse?? Apogee can then be a big concert venue as many faculty and students now hope for
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22 hours ago, Ben Gooding said:
I was on this board for at least 2 years bitching about how bad of a recruiter Mccarney was leading up to his firing. He was awful and it pisses me off just thinking that the man who put him in place is STILL here. It truly is a pitiful state over in that AD. A cluster effing joke to be 100% honest.
The man who put Macarney in place was Lane Rollins and he is gone if you haven't noticed. RV wanted Chico.
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On April 15, 2016 at 1:41 PM, greenjoe said:
What about my personal favorite, Scott Davis ?
One season wonder in a subpar league! Could not even come close to DT who is the only one of these to post stats in a three year career. Only Steve Ramsey stands above DT all time at UNT,,,,
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What is a issue is there is NO support from BOR or administration for a competitive student athletic fee. The city of Denton is the other part of the problem. Ever consider why we draw 30K+ in Dallas and average 13K in Denton. Artsy fartsey Denton needs to attend to its jazz and pot heads before it can be bothered by somethings as mundane as a football team that can bring true recognition as well as bring Denton into this decade!
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On April 12, 2016 at 10:36 AM, casual fan said:
Scheduling P5s in Denton is not as easy as some seem to think.
The Big 12 with 10 teams played 9 out of conference games last year.
SEC in Denton? Don't think so. Pac 12? ACC?
Where is the incentive for them to play in Denton?
As you -1 me, go ahead and answer that question.
Denton games with a P5 guarantee a game that will lose $$$$$ The lack of knowledge of the college game is grossly apparent in any area around town and even more so on campus. Play in Dallas or put a lost revenue game in your budget. A student newspaper that bemoans a $1/ hr fee increase might as well proclaim we want this to be a cheap non-recognized school in Texas. If $15/ semester is a problem for a student do they really belong in college? Our student athletic fee is a disgrace and the main reason we can not compete when our fee is 1/2 what our competition is getting!!!
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5 hours ago, Rudy said:
Maybe we should all write an editorial in the DaMN.
Why not write The North Texas Daily instead? The rubbish that they wrote this week on the student athletic fee is much more damaging to UNT than anything RV has ever controlled. Apathetic even hostile coverage in the student news is a prime deterrent to everything that is athletics at UNT. Not once did they mention that our fee is less than one half of that of our competition. I was at WingSpan last night that raised over a million $$$ for UNT. You could triple the support that all those on this board give and not come close to matching this amount. Instead of spending time bitching, step up and support athletics. First show up at games. Support UNT Police in arresting for loitering at tailgates that last past the first quarter and discourage frats for serving minors by arresting for minor in posession and minor consumption. With respect to The North Texas Daily article these people were bitching about a fee increase of $1 / hr. or $15/ semester, If that is a problem they need to quit school and get a job!!! The horn tooters and pot heads who write this drivel need to get a clue that FB drives the bus. UNT will not be a great university w/o a decent FB program period end of story. Just the way it is in Texas. We are not located in CA or New England!!!!
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A.D.to add two new positions
in Mean Green Football
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Does anyone have access to this blurb? As I recall the positions were upper level in finance and development and completely new positions. If anyone has access please post it here. I can not find the posting of the job positions on UNT website.