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Good get. Seems like an auto 8/5 defensive guy from the jump. These are the pieces that allow teams to go from competitive to really good.
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19 hours ago, untjim1995 said:
The problem is that boosters will always pay to get players and the Supreme Court made that legal. This will never go away. I truly believe that universities will own their team and play in leagues that features paid players, players that don’t even go to school. They’re employees. Texas could sign Vince Young to be their QB for 7 years to keep him. Same with the Aggies with Manziel. You get the idea. They’ll have coaches and GMs and be able to trade players, sign players to extensions, and develop players in minor league setups.
The rest of us are the ones that have the chance to actually play amateur college sports. Players are students who play for scholarships and stipends, all of which is governed by a NCAA type entity. And I believe that there will be a market for this level of play. I believe that watching traditional college sports will get eyeballs. Even if the Power 40 play their own semi-pro league.
There is no way the media machine allows this hypothetical new level of play to grow legs. And I agree with you, there is a market for it. But it will get minimal to no exposure and wilt away. The media is the driver of all things.
Imagine the sports media marketing G5 athletics like they've been doing with women's basketball. Hell or high water, they're trying to make women's basketball a thing.
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19 hours ago, UNTLifer said:
Every school has a percentage of their enrollment that looks like this and could not care less about athletics. Contact all of them. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
UNT has a huge %. UT does as well. But unlike UNT, UT has a huge % of football nuts and t-shirt fans.
Historical conservative universities, a la Texas Tech, does not. Baylor does not. SMU does not. Nutsack does not. Etc. They're there, just not in a sweeping %.
I would say UNT and UT takes the cake in this race. Not a race I want to be a part of. And had I done better due diligence selecting a university from 1500 miles away while waiting to separate from the military, I wouldn't be. But I'm not a beta male and therefore can never be a t-shirt fan. Not in my DNA.
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1 hour ago, NT80 said:
Ask UTA how that worked out for them.
Dunno, don't care.
We ain't them.
However, as for all resources into basketball, no. But a lot more, yes.
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1 minute ago, Matt from A700 said:
You rang?
Ahhh, yes. Thank you. It's amazing.
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4 minutes ago, untjim1995 said:
I've said forever that the Cowboys aren't keeping someone from going to a North Texas game. Now, I do believe that Texas, A&M, Tech, OU, OSU, and Arky are reasons people won't go to our games, but that has so much more to do with the fact that we nuked our fanbase with the 1-aa debacle, which gave those schools tons of t-shirt fans with UNT credit hours and diplomas, as well as the fact that those schools play people that fans want to watch.
But I blame the fact that the university's history is to have a football team, but making it cool to not support it. That mindset has prevailed in every facet of the UNT Family and community.
Yeah... we need that protest photo reposted. THAT is the reason our athletic support sucks. When only 10% of your student body cares about sports to begin with you're set up to fail. Then when you give that 10% no reason to care about UNT sports you're destined to fail.
Here we are, right in between suckitude and failure with very minimal room for error.
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3 minutes ago, untjim1995 said:
You're correct in that this really has nothing to do with us, as our town, our alumni, our students, and our faculty/administration don't give a crap about our teams in any decent percentage.
But Tech does have a lot of advantages of having an entire region of a very wealthy state that has lots of oil money out west. And the biggest advantage to all of that might just be that West Texans like sports, particularly Tech sports. And they have legit school spirit amongst the folks that I listed above that either loathe our teams' existence or just flat out don't care.
Their isolation is definitely beneficial to them. But as to our lowly attendance figures, it has nothing to do with the cowboys during our football season and the mavs during our basketball season. If anything that should be beneficial to us. Do whatever it takes to get named players in front of our players, students, and alum. Partner with them like we did with Frisco, etc. But a Sunday afternoon Cowboy game has very little/nothing to do with our 14k in attendance on Saturday.
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9 hours ago, meanJewGreen said:
To be fair they are the only game in town
Dog shit excuse. It has nothing to do with anything. It's one of the same several excuses used in an attempt to put a curtain up and around the real problems.
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Someone post that protest picture...
It's exhibit A as to why interest is not in our programs.
And our Waldo lookin prez pats himself on the back for "growing" the university. Thanks, buddy.
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1 hour ago, untjim1995 said:
The next option is not what you want…to continue as a nomad that gets paid for OOC body bag games or play in a conference that gets no chance to ever win a title. Playing teams like the Power Teams in the B1G, SEC, most of the Big 12 and some of the ACC is not in the best interests of any G5 school anymore. The money is too much for them to ever let us fight fair.
I think patience is important here. The long game here is to wait until about 20 or so P5 programs have to come up for oxygen. They can't and won't be able to keep up.
Donor fatigue will eventually set in.... a drop in ratings will be met with that. Administrators will start looking for other options. The only option is us and our likings.
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38 minutes ago, UNTLifer said:
Not my point and that has the strong potential to be a satirical post, but he should be the face of the program. We need a coach that is out selling his program to the masses and drumming up interest.
This is a means to him. It's the highest living wage he has ever earned in his life. To hell with defense, because he knows if he keeps putting up offensive numbers he will parlay his HC job to a more substantiated P5 OC job than what Washington State had/has to offer... a la Seth Littrell.
It's not about winning anymore. It's about statistically doing well in what your perceived MO is while at the G5 level. This thought process has now even infiltrated the G5 head coaching level.
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2 hours ago, UNTLifer said:
Too selfish, very little loyalty for anyone but “me” today. Killing my passion for college football. They need to get rid of the scholarship program and just pay these kids. They can pay for their classes, food, etc. Treat them like employees and let them experience the real world. I could not care less if they go to class. Let them suffer the consequences of their actions. Silence out of the staff and administrators. Why would I want to buy season tickets when I have no idea if we will even have a defensive line?
Basketball gets gouged and has already refilled the pantry, better program, etc. I may just spend my money on that program and watch football from the cozy confines of my domicile.
No word on a roadshow this summer, coaches silent, but we’ve got face painters and Corgi races. You want my money? Put forth some freaking effort.
Man, it's always been like this out of that fake ass athletic department. Always. And you know they're all scrambling around poking around at other job opportunities every offseason just as much, if not more, than our players do/are.
Basketball has a couple organic advantages. And it's simple numbers. It takes way less players, coaches, and money to be successful.
The football program always has been kind of a joke. Reaaal bad when we're bad. Kind of flukey when we're decent. And a ton of mediocrity in between. The joke will eventually be the elephant in the room. Then, the program will be the financial liability. Frankly, if we're trying to be serious about turning athletics (in our case basketball) into a positive light on our university, the football program has been a huge financial liability for some time.
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2 hours ago, UNTLifer said:
The silence out of the football program is ridiculous. Nothing from Morris, nothing from anyone, just silence. Meanwhile, other universities have their coaches reaching out to the fans, alumni and boosters.
I even looked up the Light the Tower initiative website. Poorly designed, links don’t work, etc. Same old crap every year. They are pushing me away from coming for any football games. I may just switch over to basketball tickets.
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1 minute ago, UNTLifer said:
Again, it takes effort. Sadly, you hear as much about UNT Athletics in Lubbock, as I do in Midland and as everyone in the DFW market does. There is zero coming out of the department unless a game of some sort is being played. They kept pushing the football season ticket renewal deadline, but why? I am not in any danger of losing my seats even if I choose to renew the first week of the season. All you hear out of our AD is the whir of wind turbines and crickets.
Noooooo. Not true.
You didn't like the corgis race? What an EVENT!!!!
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1 minute ago, UNTLifer said:
It is the record for a coach sipping on Grey Goose.
It's still baffles me that UNT got put in position to buy that pos out and that UNT had to buy that pos out.
They could have easily hit him with dereliction of duties, but would have had to smear him to do it. So, to avoid smearing him and hiding facts, but also to avoid looking like an incompetent athletic director/department, UNT forked over 1.8M. Just.... wow.
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19 minutes ago, emmitt01 said:
So, I'm assuming you will reserve the same vitriol for any grad-transfer who comes TO North Texas?
Vitriol?
Let's not be a softie. He doesn't like the system. Outside of the players, who does? Broke p5 fans/alum is probably the other group.
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12 minutes ago, MeanGreenTexan said:
I love the sentiment, and I'm so glad she stayed, but:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CkmRO5SJz9L/?img_index=1...It's not true.
It's true for her.
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3 minutes ago, DeepGreen said:
I've always said if UNT Athletics could get an annual $25.00 donation from every living Teacher with a UNT Education Degree (I'm looking at all the teachers out there), Graduate or Postgraduate, Athletics would never have a shortage of money.
In theory, you are probably right. However, the mass email/twitter communication is not going to get it done. If they wanted to do this, they need to spend some money and create a UNT Teacher Day of Giving - Annual Reunion. Bring every single possible teacher that can make it to DATCU, cater to them with food and guests, and convince them that giving back is the only way to propel our university forward and see how many wallets they can open up. Market the event appropriately with a runway of at least 2 or 3 months. But this just arbitrary giving day with lazy and cheap marketing will most often times fall on deaf ears. But, hey, it's the UNT way.
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On 3/28/2024 at 9:31 PM, Matt from A700 said:
Here's my proposal:
Is there a place to sign up for this?
I know talks have went soft on alignment, etc. However, there is no greater time for UNT to be positioning themselves while it's not a national media event. UNT must be doing everything in its power to align itself with the best possible peer group it can snab. The ONLY thing about it I would dislike is getting away from the service academies, but they can always be on the non-con here and there. Outside of that, this would be a really good position for UNT to be in.
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1 hour ago, Jonnyeagle said:
It is truly sad to see many of our best posters come on here and try to pretend that we should be ok with our best players leaving to go to other schools. This system sucks and will ultimately kill college sports and I refuse to adjust my views on it,
By and large, people agree with your stance.
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15 minutes ago, Jonnyeagle said:
No, I agree with everything you stated up to that point. We cannot support HOF for players who voluntarily choose to leave. What next, will we start enshrining players from other teams to our HOF? Rubin will forever be considered a Michigan graduate in his professional career.
Assuming he graduates from Michigan. He IS a graduate of UNT.
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6 hours ago, 97and03 said:
They didn’t shut themselves down. The University of Alabama board did (hence my tongue in cheek post). They didn’t have a say - big Alabama tried to kill them.
Sure but they folded up like spineless cowards.
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37 minutes ago, GMG24 said:
You wouldn't take a new job if they offered you 400,000 more than your current salary?
I'm simply disputing the bullshit being typed and posted on this thread. But of course I would. But then I would tell you the truth rather than lying about it.
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What part is the biggest drop in awhile?