[Maniacs to extend their presence to football in 2024]

11 hours ago, emmitt01 said:

Wait, you're telling me my asparagus is being grown on the moon??  

Talk about wasteful bureaucracy...now we're using NASA to fly farmers into space (or did we create yet ANOTHER space farming organization?!).   Are they using that new branch of the military, the "Space Force", to harvest these crops?   And are we blowing taxpayer money to grow only asparagus?   Shouldn't we be at least growing corn, carrots, or some other crop as well?   

And are we even really on the moon when we're doing this farming?   Is this yet another CGI lunar landing?   Did we create another government bureaucracy to film this fake space farming??   How much is that costing?  

Rest assured... if taxes are being paid then assume it's being blown. 

[Looking to discuss, or debate: the future of CFB.]

1 minute ago, NT80 said:

It's lipstick on a pig.   6-5 USC playing 7-4 Wisconsin doesn't move the needle for me to even attempt to watch, regardless of how they spin it.   Records matter.   And Lincoln Riley is in hot water with their fan base if USC is 6-5, lol.

When 8-4's and 9-3's are in the playoffs, 7-5 will be spinned as "almost there." 

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3 hours ago, THOR said:

back in my day, it was cock-fueled coeds...

[Looking to discuss, or debate: the future of CFB.]

8 hours ago, NT80 said:

The record is the issue.  Fans and networks only support winners.   These super powers are used to no more than 3 losses in a season, max.  When they start having 5-6 losses in a season, then they become the new "second tier" or lessor programs of the power schools.   None of those fan basses want or will support second tier.   

They'll normalize the losing. That's a fact. The media (fox and espn) will lead that charge. Believe in that. 

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12 hours ago, golfingomez said:

What is this based on?

Additionally, if you want to take a fatalistic view to all this, I would say that either way it won't matter much, because football will have run it's course in the next twenty years as it gets slowly ravaged/undone by rule changes, safety regulations and a growing impact on the health of those who play it.

The NFL will never not play the game. Colleges... that's a different story. They're currently playing this dog and pony show with the players while trying to appease the courts, but it's not sustainable. Even for the elites. 

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15 hours ago, Udomann said:

I have a diversive opinion on the pro side. We are about to see a generation of spoiled overpaid college kids demanding more as a rookie than ever before. They will work less and expect more because now they have expectations that can't last in terms of money or respect/experience 

The CFB correction will happen when pro teams realize they are getting a lesser product from universities that have enabled a the next class of spoiled kids.

I don't understand this angle. 

Where are the NFL teams going to go when they don't want any more college football players? 

And how is the NFL going to catch this cat and put it back in the bag? 

[Mason Fine and KD Davis Updates]

1 hour ago, 97and03 said:

 

Time for young fella to get into coaching. He has all the tangibles to be a good one. 

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Greater than 0. Less than 3. 2? 1? I have interest as it is UNT related. 

[Looking to discuss, or debate: the future of CFB.]

Yeah... because the minor league baseball teams are killing it in attendance, revenue, tv slots, etc. 

[Christian Moore/Terrence Dixon]

2 minutes ago, UNTLifer said:

It is really sad.  I have quite a bit of family history from my mother's side in Pine Bluff.  I would love to take my kids there for a day, but have been warned.

Back on topic, I wish both of them well.  I hated that Moore never really seemed to develop his game and Dixon seemed to be just a throw in for the roster last year.  I wish them both well in their new destinations.

We played White Hall High School when I was in high school as a district opponent in all sports. White Hall is considered the "nice" suburb... Pine Bluff is certainly a cesspool. 

[House v. NCAA settlement winners and losers: Athletes take monumental step, non-revenue sports at risk]

12 minutes ago, untbowler said:

which means serious Title IX implications

Lol... hardly anyone abides by that. 

[Weather (5/28/2024)]

My house in kiowa dodged the tornado in Valley View. The loss of the life over there is tragic, I think it was 7 total, 4 children. 

[Jared Mosely upset and rightfully so]

On 5/26/2024 at 9:38 AM, NT80 said:

Bilas sounds like another P5 suck-up.  Athletes will have to accept restrictions on compensation if they want roster spots on some programs.  Deal with it or join the military!

Jay Bilas is a douchebag. Always has been. 

[EA NCAA 25 payouts by school]

59 minutes ago, emmitt01 said:

UL-Lafayette and Utah State getting $50M more than us…let that sink in. 
 

Dickey used to beat them down en route to conference titles.  

50m? Uhh? 

[EA NCAA 25 payouts by school]

2 minutes ago, NT93 said:

Okie St in Tier 1 and UT in Tier 2???

Okie st has been better than ut this past decade. 

[Group of Five Coaches Ranked - CBS Sports]

31 minutes ago, NT80 said:

This^  It's all about the patch.

$mut used to have a SWC patch before they got kicked out of the group.

They saw another chance to "buy-a-patch" with the ACC, so they will spend $40 million for it.  To them the value of the patch is what it is all about....image, and nothing else.   $40 million won't make them P5-quality, even if the patch says they are.

P5 quality is very subjective. Is Boston College p5 quality? Is Rutgers? Etc. Etc. Well, according to their conference commissioners... they are. Smu is no less than those middling/cellar p5 programs. Many of g5 programs could surpass those type programs with the proper patch/tv revenue. 

[Group of Five Coaches Ranked - CBS Sports]

22 minutes ago, untjim1995 said:

I’ve never seen us ranked in football, much less ranked 2nd like Tech did. I’ve never seen us advance beyond the 2nd round of the ncaa tournament, much less lose a title in overtime like Tech did. 
 

They are FAR better than we could’ve ever dreamed of since we gave up in 1982.

It's all relative in terms of who we are and what they are. Put a sunbelt/cusa/MVC patch on their jerseys for their premiere years and see where they are. If you think they're a lightly supported program now (vs their "peers"), imagine doing that to them out there in Lubbock. Then, put a big12/SWC patch on our jerseys since the 60s. 

See what I'm saying? Their little success is created by their opportunities. 

[New TP Commitment (5/19/24): Derek Burns Jr]

Coach o reelin' them in...

 

[Mason Fine update]

57 minutes ago, Censored by Laurie said:

six-figures
complete job autonomy
ownership stake
time for 60-70 rounds of golf a year (in a place with about an 8 month season)
a month or so of remote work in south america every winter
one of the most vibrant food and drink scenes in the country 
living in one of the prettiest states in the country
and the liver of someone 20 years my elder

all with the self-awareness that a D1 athlete has invested a lot more hours and energy into their craft than I have. 
 

Uh huh... but what is it that you DO. 

[Mason Fine update]

1 minute ago, Censored by Laurie said:

you're the one not wiling to share what you've done for a living that has clearly been more intensive than what a D1 college football player has invested in their trade. until you want to do an actual examination of effort, than ya...imma stick to bits

This isn't about me. This is about the debate in which we're having. It's a debate you easily lost and you chose bits as an off ramp. But keep to your bits, buddy. 

[Mason Fine update]

Just now, Censored by Laurie said:

so you haven't even mastered Excel? damn. that's rough, dog. 

Yeah..  no reply of worth. No refute. Now you're going to insults because you're standing there with nothing to say with substance. 

[Mason Fine update]

Just now, Censored by Laurie said:

imagine if Mason put in as much effort as @NorthTexasWeLove did at learning Excel spreadsheets. he'd be a Hall of Famer

That's just it dumbass... Mason did put in a ton of work... and his reward is holding a jockstrap in Canada. Work has some to do with it, but you imply that it has everything to do with it. If it did, Mason Fine, and players like him would be NFL HoF. But Mason is short with pedestrian arm strength and no amount of "work" was ever going to change that. Your other dumbass implication that people don't work hard at what they do is just a very you thing to say. 

[Jared Mosely upset and rightfully so]

2 minutes ago, TheColonyEagle said:

Why don't the G5s work together and say "we're not paying....we didn't create this mess" and force the Power conferences to sue....P5s, state your case and convince a jury or the public you have a legitimate complaint. 

You don't.

 

That's the logical thing to do. 

But they aren't standing up for their stepping stone job and blacklist themselves from their dream of coaching/administrating at a p5. And that's why little vague comments on social media from these people faking outrage is beyond irrelevant. 

[Zach Orr video]

Awesome stuff. 

[Jared Mosely upset and rightfully so]

2 minutes ago, Mean Green 93-98 said:

It seems the solution was the "alternate plan" that the P4s rejected.

It seems we've been wanting an AD who would stand up for us rather than bending over and grabbing his ankles for the powers that be.  He may not have the power to override the P4's decisions, but at least he's standing up and calling out their garbage.

Sure. And I'm not blaming him. It's not his fault. But don't post vague disappointments. Air the dirty laundry and be very specific in the wrongdoings.