[DRC: UNT to unveil statue of Greene this fall]

2 hours ago, MeanGreen22 said:

The statue belongs at the entrance by the hill. The courtyard area is perfect for it and probably has the majority of foot traffic

I get your point but I disagree. I think the base of the hill would be the best location on gameday. But the other 359 days of the year, that area gets zero traffic and it's not convenient for people to "stop by." The gate #2 location has plenty of parking and is visible from the interstate. I would think the statue will attract visitors throughout the year at gate #2. Anyone visiting the MGSF office, spirit store, etc. 

[Will the 400 Member UNT Green Brigade Marching Band Go To Arkansas?]

2 hours ago, Cerebus said:

It is a cost thing.  They would not get any free tickets from Arkansas either.  I am sure if anyone wanted to donate the cost of the band attending the AD/Band Director would love to cash your check.  

THIS!! For sure. I would love for the band to go. I'm sure we all would. But the same people going nuts about this will be the ones griping when their tickets go up to cover this expense or when we can't match an offer Littrell gets. Power 5 schools don't give you free band tickets. The cheapest Arkansas ticket (lower level because you can't put a band in the upper deck) was $60 when I bought mine yesterday. Upper deck is $45. You'd need tickets for 400 band members plus instruments (probably another 25-30 tickets). Tickets alone would be nearly $30,000. They need buses. Probably 8-10 buses which probably rent for $2,000 per day each. There's another $20k. Bus drivers can only drive so many hours per day so you'll need two drivers for every bus. Then you need to feed the band. They'll be on the road for 16 total hours so that's at least 3 meals plus probably a snack. Another $16k or so (400 meals X 4 X $10). So that's almost $70,000. Who's in to donate? Because the truth of the matter is we don't get the $45 million that SEC schools get from TV so we can't do everything they do. It's a financial reality unless a donor wants to write the check.

[New Touchdown Terrace at Apogee]

There was a social media post saying they had sold out of them. 

[Seth Littrell Rumors Mega Thread]

I'm a huge fan of Coach Littrell and WB but I believe the most importance ingredient to our newfound success is buy in from the University. If we continue to invest the way were currently are, I'm convinced we can overcome personnel changes. 

[Start of something special Man of Steel]

12 minutes ago, Zeke said:

Sometimes I see Peggs, sometimes I see Locust Grove.  Help out a confused fan?

From Peggs, OK. Played at Locust Grove High School

[My how things have changed]

Just sitting here thinking about this weekend. Massive crowd. Team that plays at a high level with few self-inflicted mistakes. One of the best QBs in the CFB. A marketing promotion making national news. We've waited so long to see this and it gives me chills. The stars are aligned. Great coach, great AD, great President. Supportive chancellor and Board (led by an unsung hero for athletics in Brint Ryan). This is what "it" feels like and it feels so damn good. Here's hoping that we keep the team intact and that if/when we do lose any of them, the culture and resources are there to continue our trajectory. It feels different this time, like we may really have changed the future of our athletic program.

[UNT has record crowd for 2018 SMU win]

5 hours ago, FirefightnRick said:

I was at Fouts at its first sellout against SFA in 1988.

I was at its second sellout against SMU in 1990.

I was there at Fouts for the Baylor game in 2003.

I was at Apogee for the Houston game in 2011.

And I was there last night and that was BY FAR...HANDS DOWN...the largest collection of NT fans to attend on campus event I've ever witnessed.  

Congratulations to WB and company.  Y'all just set another bar never reached before.  Let's keep climbing!

Rick

My point exactly. I have no idea how many were there. But I have zero doubt it's the most that's ever been in Apogee. I'm not going to debate the "analytics for a living guy" on how many seats were open per 25. But if someone says there were more at the Houston game, they're delusional. Anyone at both of those games that was taking pictures would see the difference.

[UNT has record crowd for 2018 SMU win]

11 hours ago, KingDL1 said:

 

Not sure anyone is poo-pooing but the actual attendance was not  that  big clearly, there were way more people many more people at the Houston game opener. 

No way. I don't know how many were there last night but I was at both games and have pictures from both and there were more there last night. The wing was substantially more filled in this time. And we had people standing everywhere. The wing looks cool doesn't work in practicality. People refuse to go up there high and sit. I walked up there one time. I can't say I blame them. It's a long straight up walk that isn't worth doing if you plan to ever go for concessions or the restroom. 

[The Band]

9 hours ago, Got5onIt said:

They looked better with the back shorts tonight. SMU looked like Mr. Pepperment but they wore full uniforms. The football players aren’t complaining about the heat with 50lbs of gear on...

Not to state the obvious but one of those groups are well trained and conditioned athletes. The others, not so much. I don't have a huge issue with the shorts. Don't want anyone passing out and interrupting the game, LOL.

[Speaking of facilities......]

5 minutes ago, Venson said:

I understand that people are complaining about the track around the soccer field, but let's be honest. It is financially the right thing to do. Why? Because if we are honest with ourselves, soccer and track & field do not generate much revenue in the United States. If you want to make real money in those sports you have to leave the country. I bet you there are not 10 people on this board that can name 5 track meets outside of the Olympics and World Championships without using Google. I bet there are not 10 that can name 5 world class track & field athletes on the USA team. I am not saying that's bad, I am just being realistic. I could not name you one soccer team outside of the Dallas Stars. I want the Mean Green to be great in those sports, but they do not generate the revenue to justify each getting their own facility and I am a huge T&F fan. It's just a fact, the USA is all about football, basketball, and baseball. Everything else is so far behind those three that it's not even funny.

Agree 1000% I'm very happy for the track and soccer kids. But even at $14 million, I swallow hard. If they were split facilities, it would be at least $20. Probably more like $22 million. 

[DRC: UNT officials confirm SMU game approaching sellout]

Also, I just realized in addition to uniform watch and debate we now have ticket map watch and debate. What a world.

[DRC: UNT officials confirm SMU game approaching sellout]

23 minutes ago, Talon90 said:

We are going by the ticket map.  No student sections have available tickets. So the assumption is they will already be full.  Students that walk up don't sit or buy tickets on the press box side/endzone side of the stadium where the available seats are located.  Again, I hope I'm wrong.

I've been told typical walk up is between 1,500-3,000. I think this will be on the high side. So let's say 3,000-3,500. I've heard there's 8,000 tickets in the student sections. What if 10,000 show? Maybe they'd put them in some of those seats? Where are the free student guest tickets going?  Students and upper endzone (as well as lower endzone behind the goalpost) is all GA. I'm starting to wonder if they might not have oversold the cheapest tickets (GA). If you have 3,500 walk ups and they actually have to buy seats, it would be close. I guestimate somewhere between 3,000 and 3,500 actual seats remain. Who knows where they are on GA. I've checked the maps throughout the day. While many seats remain, several sections have large chunks gone from them compared to this morning.

[DRC: UNT coaches, players thrilled with wrestling matches]

49 minutes ago, TheColonyEagle said:

I have to stop obsessing over that map....😩

But there is still a full section and two corner sections that are completely empty and 205-208 are half empty along with the corner end zones

~3500 seats still available?

That's ~100 seats per hour from here to gametime

 

I looked this morning and thought the same thing. But I'm guessing 2-3k for a walk-up crowd. Reality is the walkup push at the end will be the deciding factor.

[WSJ: College Football’s Growing Problem - Empty Seats]

1 hour ago, outoftown said:

So, if only scanned tickets were counted (which is what it really should be), then UNT would be number2 in C-USA

Also too bad, the numbers are not available for SMU. I'd be really interested in seeing those.

Does it tell number of games so you can figure an average? That would be a good data point

[The Ticket at UNT]

40 minutes ago, NorthTexan95 said:

 

Yep.  

Spike Lee has a new movie that tells the true story of a black police officer infiltrating the KKK.  Sounds like a good story.  Then you have Craig Miller saying "If you're a Trump supporter then you probably won't like it."  Basically, he called all Trump supporters racists. 

Yeah but they also were making jokes of the #metoo movement which isn't a far left wing position.

[FYI - New Purse and Bag Rule for Apogee this year]

9 hours ago, EagleMBA said:

This rule SUCKS! Convenient for 100 people, inconvenient for 25,000 - 30,000.

 

I was told they would give reminders the first two games but wouldn't turn anyone away. That was from a member of the MGSF staff at the ticket pick up event. He also said we were pretty much the last venue (college or pro) in Texas to put the policy in. 

Personally, I don't love they have to do this. But they do have a responsibility to ensure everyone's safety. Many stadiums and venues have metal detectors so this seems less intrusive than that.

[Well, at least the new turf looks good from above...]

Huh? Outside of the Texas outline not being quite dark enough, I think it looks great. Even seems like the end zones are pretty popular now.

[How o make a GRAND ENTRANCE (revisited)]

I'm not about to email our leadership about this. I feel there are so many other things they should be focused on. The fans have more to do with the pregame atmosphere than the Green Brigade or ath department. I'd rather have them focused on keeping SL and staff intact, building financial support, improving facilities. Winning is the biggest thing our programs need and is the PRIMARY reason we don't have more fans and a better atmosphere. 

Lastly, I think the Green Brigade suggestions should go straight to the band director or dean. I doubt anyone from athletics has much input into the actual routine. They simply provide the time and WB would be nuts try and cut that time. That would go over like a s*&$ sandwich.

I think Virginia Tech has the best entrance in all of college football followed by Clemson. But those two places have consistent sellouts and as passionate of fans as anyone int he country. 

[Speaking of facilities......]

On 8/25/2018 at 10:42 PM, mgfan said:

Glad we are upgrading the facilities,  but I am not a fan of putting a track around the soccer stadium. Very high school-ish.  Just like in football,  it takes away from the experience.  I think the TCU soccer stadium is pretty good setup.  Wish we would have done something more along those lines.  

Originally, it was only going to be track so they could get track out of Fouts. So if anything, they would have just left soccer where they are.

[Speaking of facilities......]

4 hours ago, NorthTexan95 said:

I agree but space is limited and lots of colleges have to do this. 

I'm sure everyone would have preferred separate but right now at UNT I can't see spending the money to do both as separate facilities. My opinion is this was the right decision here. And the Longhorns have the same things so from a recruiting perspective, I don't think recruits will see it that negatively. 

[Ticket Purchase Question (Got em)]

4 hours ago, oldguystudent said:

Welp, I tried.  I had a code for 20% off, but it expired on August 17th.  

Somebody help me out here -- if you buy at the gate, do you save on fees? 

You might save on fees, I'm not totally sure. But tickets are more expensive on game day. I think the $20 ticket is $25 day of game. They do that to try and get people  to buy in advance and not create super long lines day of game.

[DMN thinks SL is Tech’s #1 choice to replace KK]

5 minutes ago, 97and03 said:

I don’t get the call for Harrell to take over. He has two years experience as an OC and only 4-5 years coaching experience period. I think we can bring someone in with more experience.

How about we bring in Brown from Troy?

I agree on GH. I love him but if we are willing to pay $1 million plus we can probably get a proven head coach. 

[DMN thinks SL is Tech’s #1 choice to replace KK]

1 hour ago, Salsa_Verde said:

Neal Brown...former offensive coordinator at Texas Tech and is 1-0 against Seth Littrell. You can also add a signature win against LSU in there as well. How is he not the front runner in this case? Sounds like DMN is trolling the North Texas fan base again. 

This. When people say Seth is frontrunner I'm like have you heard of Neal Brown. Listen, I love what SL has done. But we've been awful on D during his tenure. Neal Brown has been a HC longer, won more games, has been good on O and D. Beat LSU in Death Valley and beat the shit out of us last year. Why would SL be ahead of him? I get he has Filani and Graham on his staff but there's not guarantee they go (we could hire them here as HC and OC for instance) and if they did go, they may leave after a year or two. Plus Seth makes $1.4 now and Neal makes $800k so I assume Neal comes cheaper. Makes no sense to me. But then again, no ones asking me either.

[A Picture of the Endzone]

Was at Apogee today to pay for tickets and saw the endzones. The pics we've seen didn't have infill because they were just starting to put it in so that will dull it sum as will wear and tear over time. The rest of the field has already lost some of it's "crispness." When I read/saw pics of the design of I loved the idea of kelly green endzones. But I admit the contrast today was stronger than I thought and will take some getting used to. That being said I still think it was the right call. If our name wasn't Mean Green and we just had green as a primary color, I'd feel different. But when your name is "Mean Green" I feel like you got to own it and brand the hell out of it. Neon lights, obnoxious endzones, lighting towers, etc. Just one man's opinion.

[Details of new contracts for Littrell, Baker, McCasland, Mitchell]

23 hours ago, outoftown said:

The problem is, that compared to the last contract we are not really getting more upside, while the downside has increased. If SL goes 10-2 he is likely gone, and the new buyout doesn't change that or make it really financially attractive where it wasn't before. For that, the buyout would have had to be increased more. If he goes 9-3 and UNT keeps him, then I will assume having been wrong.

Not the way I understand Vito's article. At the end of the 18 season the previous contract had the buyout at $700,000. The new one at over $1.6 million. I'd love it to be higher but I'm sure Seth's agents weren't going to let it be too high. If Vito is correct and it would be top 10 all time to be paid, that seems fair(ish) relative to the salary.