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  6. The SBC will kill our program...

    in Mean Green Football

    Posted · Edited by rjmunthe

    I thoroughly love how only the stupid trolls are the ones who disagree. What does it matter if I didn't know what conference we were in? It is FCS. It doesn't matter. I was living in Houston wanting to be a Cougar when we were FCS. I didn't know we existed because we played irrelevant teams. Anyway, I have stats proving our attendance is much better versus regional teams. I'm shocked at how out of touch a lot of you are. People in Florida know UNT. Yet, the people in Florida who know UNT are not going to drive eight hours to watch FAU get massacred here. People in San Marcos would come to Denton to watch Texas State though because they are within a day's distance. Furthermore, people here recognize Texas State so would want to see them play. Why do you think our attendanattendance sucked with Dickey? NO ONE WANTS TO WATCH MTSU. Fact. We don't draw fans just because we're UNT like A&M or UT. Good lord.

    Like, seriously, the stupidity here makes me wonder why I came to UNT at all. Denial levels are shocking.

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  7. WKU Official Attendance

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    --- Name, regional opponents. Especially as we are rebuilding having teams that draw interest and bring fans are important.

    --- Winning against recognizable opponents. I hate to remind people here but even in our Sun Belt heyday 2001-2005 we rarely won non conference games. As we improve our program we have to approach every non conference game as a chance to better the perception of our program. The Indiana game - as crappy as they are -- was one of the best feeling wins we have had in a Long Time! Those type of home wins against recognizable opponents fuel your fan base.

    This is what I've been saying in the other thread and getting blasted for it.

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  8. The SBC will kill our program...

    in Mean Green Football

    Posted · Edited by rjmunthe

    I assume that since your claiming the Sunbelt will be the end of our program that your new around here and missed out on what happens when we actually field a winning team.

    But then you supported with facts against your own claim, so I guess you do get it.

    We do have a solid core of about 8 to 10,000 fans that turn out rain or shine, Tuesday or Saturday. We saw them there last night(No way in hell there was more than 10k there last night). If we want more we have to field a winning team.

    Stop crying about the Belt. It's helped us get where we are now. New Stadium, more money in the program and a beautifully restored smoothbore, 6 pound cannon that the few who showed up in red last night won't soon forget.

    Rick

    Fielding a winning team in the Sun Belt...15-18K attendance. Difference now? Nothing.

    If you were at the game, then you'd realize there were about 17K at the game. A little less than homecoming.

    The Belt hasn't helped us do anything other be disrespected and increase our irrelevance in the D/FW market. We will never move up because conferences go "UNT has the D/FW market" then see on all the websites us at the very bottom with one or two stories and any research will prove to you that we don't. Why? Because we play teams no one cares about. We play Indiana. Everyone knows Indiana. Even though we lost one game in typical UNT fashion and one in heartbreaking fashion, we still draw 20K+. Idaho, yeah, no one knows them or really cares. Texas State, UTSA, etc. people do know them. New Mexico? Yeah, they suck but people know them. Shall I go on?

    Go ask people about the opponents we play. No one knows/cares. Even alumni. Those are the people we need to sway. Like it or not, WKU/MTSU aren't getting that done.

    MAC crowds still have 20K+ in much smaller markets.

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  9. The SBC will kill our program...

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    Posted · Edited by rjmunthe

    The WAC and Southland are even more terrible. You're right, we need to get out of this conference. But we have to start beating the teams in it like they just slept with your sister. Especially the ULM, ULL, WKU, MTSU, FAU, FIU of the world. Ark St and Troy, for some reason are the only 2 other schools they seem to recognize.

    The WAC would have Texas State, UTSA and a few other well-known regional schools. Southland may be terrible but we drew when playing it. I'm not really for SLC. Just stating a point. I realize it's a down-step to the WAC. But moving down there to win better and dominate while bringing up attendance will work. Not to mention the WAC doesn't have to have as many money games as the damn Sun Belt. I don't see us moving to the MWC or CUSA.

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  11. The SBC will kill our program...

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    Posted · Edited by rjmunthe

    Says the person who missed the 10-15,000 Mean Green fans that gathered in New Orleans on a TUESDAY NIGHT, four years in a row.

    Rick

    What does that really have to do with anything? UNT has a core die-hard fan base of 13,000 who go to the game no matter what and would go to New Orleans to watch us at a bowl game.

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  12. No lance tonight?

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    Posted · Edited by rjmunthe

    Yeah, like all season long, he instead just ran into the pile and fell down. Instead of making moves like he hasn't done all season, he just tried to push the pile with a young offensive line. Makes sense. This is why he will go undrafted and may play a down for the Carolina Panthers then get released.

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  13. WKU Official Attendance

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    Posted · Edited by rjmunthe

    I still get questioned and looked at cross wise when people find out that UNT and all the schools in our conference are in the same football "division" as UT, OU, LSU, Bama. Most just assumed that all the schools in our conference are D2.

    Exactly my point. Thus the SBC is killing our program. A good % of people on here are really blinded by UNT's irrelevance.

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  14. WKU Official Attendance

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    To label this an outrage shows that you have no historical perspective of this program and the attendance issues we have experienced especially in mid to late November. And no I'm not ashamed as a fan, disappointed at times but never ashamed of this program.

    Why would there not be outrage? Attendance like this is not OK. Our apathetic students and alumni don't get the extra push to go to the game when they look at the ticket and see a Middle Tennessee State University game.

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  15. The SBC will kill our program...

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    Posted · Edited by rjmunthe

    I get what you are saying. I agree with the fact that people are not interested in seeing us play the likes of FAU and ULM. I get it. But the Sun Belt is not our problem.

    Our problem is us.

    UNT should not have to rely on others schools' fans to fill our stadium. We have a very small stadium, especially considering our student population, size of local alumni base, and number of residents in Denton. Apogee should be the toughest ticket in town. Our students and alumni base alone should be clamoring for seats. And it should not matter who we play.

    The regional team argument is losing steam for me. We opened one of the nicest stadiums in the country with a regional, highly-regarded opponent as still didn't hit a sellout. I think it was only the 3rd largest crowd for an on-campus game. That is pretty sad. We no longer have the "Fouts is holding us back" argument to fall back upon. We hired an experienced coach, built a palace of a stadium, and brought in a regional opponent. Still can't fill a game.

    This tells me the problem isn't our conference. We get solid crowds for more well-known opponents, to be sure. But if we get into CUSA or MWC, what will those crowds look like in November and December when the novelty of playing better opponents has worn off?

    Maybe winning is the final step. Winning in another conference? I don't know. I do know that winning the SBC four years in a row didn't do it. The new stadium and winning? Probably a good combination.

    But I do know this. It all starts with changing the culture of UNT. We have to reconnect with those alumni that haven't thought twice about UNT since graduating. Send them all a free ticket or a 2 for 1 coupon for football and/or basketball. We are making the right steps with our new students, but frankly I don't know that we have the time to wait for them to graduate and start earning. We need some immediate alumni support from those that have forgotten about UNT. Things are headed in the right direction. But I just hope that 30 years of neglect and apathy towards athletics has not left us with too large of a hole to dig ourselves out of. The Dr. Hurleys of the world have put us in a dark place.

    Sorry for the Plumm-like rant. The bottom line is this: UNT students and alumni should come to UNT game because it is their school, not because of the name on the other teams jersy.

    Winning + Playing regional opponents + not playing WKUs and FAUs = good attendance. None of which we have accomplished. Look at UH as a good example. Historically terrible attendance. Move to CUSA...little jump...around 22/23K...they start winning...sell out.

    You can neg me all you want. These are facts. This is simple and proven. Look, accept it or not, we don't have a strong enough fan base for alumni on the fence to go to the game when they look at the ticket and see "Middle Tennessee State University" as our opponent. They just look at the ticket and go "WTF LOL". My pitch to some of my girlfriend's friends to get them in the gate was "We're not half bad..." Their response: "Who are we playing?" My response: "Western Kentucky." Their response: "Who?"

    Everyone keeps bringing up the Dickey years and the poor attendance. Well, let me tell you this..."DUH." This proves my argument.

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  16. The SBC will kill our program...

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    Posted · Edited by rjmunthe

    Completely not wrong. Go take a poll of people's opinions of the schools we play. Bringing ten fans along? Completely ridiculous. Why was the attendance so good at Houston and Indiana, then? Because people know these schools. I'd put $50 on a bet that if we played Texas State, UTEP, UTSA, or even U of H again we'd break 25K again. A decent football team versus teams people know=recipe for good attendance.

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  17. The SBC will kill our program...

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    The Sun Belt has killed us since the SLC? Wow...a bit unfair to blame the Belt for the years we were in the Big West. Then again, I guess historical accuracy shouldn't stand in the way of histrionics though.

    Were we not in the SLC before the Belt? The Sun Belt is making people apathetic and our program a joke.

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  18. WKU Official Attendance

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    Posted · Edited by rjmunthe

    And when you come see UNT play you get to watch an irrelevant opponent who is from the other side of the nation. "Middle" Tennessee gets me giggles and a "LOL wut" from everyone. People assume we play FCS schools. Look, UTSA/UTEP may be inferior to a WKU but they'd bring fans, and they'd bring respect, which would consistently bring 25K+ no matter the record. UH's attendance was so good because UH brought fans and people wanted to see Houston play us, because they know UH. Such the case with Indiana. If we're 0-9 the stadium will still have 25K+ for SMU.

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  19. The SBC will kill our program...

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    Posted · Edited by rjmunthe

    And eventually shove us back to the FCS. Students and alumni don't want to see the freaking Hilltoppers come play. When your opposing team brings five fans total, your opposing team lives too far away. The SBC is just slaughtering our program, and has since we left Southland. This is completely ridiculous. I mean, there's no rivalries with these schools, and ALL the students laugh/joke around about the schools we play because no one's ever heard of them. Furthermore, unless we start tearing it up in the Sun Belt for years, attendance won't rise. People laugh and put us down when we play WKU or FIU or ULL. There are only two schools that are well known nationally. Us, as NTSU, and Troy. I could care less if we went to the WAC or even went back down to Southland. At least I'd care about who we're playing.

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  25. Greeks on the Hill (NT Daily Letter to the Editor)

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    WOW! I figured GMG would be full of a bunch of people talking about how THIS IS THE WORST THING EVER and North Texas fans should be all polite, never curse, drink, yell at opposing punters, don't rush the field, and do proper "NORTH TEXAS" fans because there are kids around but also to show that UNT is a righteous and upstanding college like Oxford. Oh, and act like Nebraska. What a high aspiration we have. :thumbsd:

    This forum... :lol:

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