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I read that FFR said at tonight's Pep Rally that is was announced that we were now the 3'rd largest school in Texas which means we surpassed the University of Houston but we would have had to had over 33,000 to do that! Did we do that this year?!?! (We will eventually but this year)?!? WOW! If we did...
Of course, we still have the 12 day class sit to see how many hang in there. I hope we don't lose any because of lack of dorms or apartments.
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Jeff, it was a number that came from one of this board's administrators (Cerebus) but lets see what happens after today's additions as today was the last day of enrollment.
I believe those numbers will be close to accurate as they are from our usual reliable sources (unless someone on campus is pulling a few legs and that is probably not likely).
After the 12 day class roll I believe (just as Cerebus posted in the football section) we will be just above 30,000 enrollment as a few students will fall thru the cracks and IMHO that will most likely be because of the lack of housing; but like Harry and I were talking today, this 30K plus enrollment is all happening much quicker than we anticipated if the figures given are even close to being accurate.
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Just curious as to what recent trends at UNT would say we could expect for today (Wednesday) as the last day for students to enroll. Would anyone out there tend to think it would be less or more than 100 students who would enroll? As I said, just curiuos...
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Ain't it nice to be green...
HAPPY DAYS ARE HERE AGAIN! WATCH OUT EVE!
(inside joke)
NOTE: I believe the official Fall numbers will come after the 10'th day of class as I recall.
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Uh, we will still need 2 or 3K to pass UHouston who I think sets around 32 or 33,000 last time I checked (unless their main campus has lost enrollment since they have so many satellite schools down there now).
The Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board has projected UNT's enrollment to be around 42,000 at the Denton campus in the next 10 years; hence a main reason present administrators are furiously shuffling around trying to prepare our alma mater and Denton for this growth. UNT President Dr. Norval Pohl in his own projections has us reaching around 45,000 plus. Any UNT enrollment in the 40's range will make us #3 with room to spare IMHO.
I don't see Texas Tech ever being able to pass UNT in enrollment and that is (still) because of Lubbock's west Texas outpost location and not being in a "growing" urban center such as UNT. I still say UNT's growth will be our greatest endowment (and ally) until our school's financial endowment catches up with where it should befitting a school with our scope and size. The new engineering program will indirectly help us not only in fundraising but in gaining (dramatically) more research dollars for UNT's main campus.
Like Gray (Jack Fincher) Eagle said, though, UNT is in the infant stages of endowment fundraising since we didn't officially start that until the early 1970's (if one could ever believe that). Our past "teacher' college" administrators were said to have told North Texas Exes almost up till the early 1970's to keep their money as their supposed philosophy was "if the alums send us their money they will want to start running the university." (We all know, though, what those older NT administrators said does, in fact, have some truth to their philosophy).
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Dr. Phil is "Doctor" Phil because he received his Phd in Psychology from the University of North Texas...That was mentioned a couple of weeks ago in a very lengthy feature article in the Dallas Morning News.
Ya' think somebody from the middle part of Tennessee may have written that article on our very visible North Texas Ex, Deep Green?
The only way most of us on GMG.com ever find out about all the rich and famous who are North Texas Exes is (amazingly enough) in our annual Mean Green football media guide that has a full page spread on the subject. Our football media guide is a most informative reference book (and covers more than just football) that any North Texas Ex would be proud to have in their library.
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I'm sure Harry will let us know if this is the case.
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Don't think we'll see in our lifetime the state of Texas pay for more dorms; but UNT has had private investors for the last 2 (Santa Fe and Mozart Square) and that seems to be a pretty fair arrangement for all parties concerned. The only negative to privately built dorms is they never seem to include a cafeteria.
Anyone heard of other privately funded dorms for UNT's future?
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I was also able to spot hott girls a mile away, and that is my favorite thing about the start of a new school year.
You mean we still have an abundance of hot girls at UNT?
Are our co-eds one of UNT's Top 10 greatest natural resources?
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Like FFR recently stated, I, too, am so darn jealous of all you present day UNT students!
You all are in Mean Green Country at a time it is on the threshold of more growth and greatness and as students you all can make such a difference with so many things you can do on that campus to influence so many others who just need a gentle nudge, a little inspiration to become full fledged Greenbackers.
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Wonder how both events turned out? Anyone who attended one or both have a report or comment?
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What? They used to have one whole week of late registration after the first day of school. Is that for sure about Wednesday being the last day to enroll or is that Wednesday of the next week?
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Anyone know when UNT's Fall registration is or has it already happened or is it happening now?
Wonder what the latest Fall enrollment projections are? Anyone heard?
Miscellaneous:
Read in today's DMN that Robert Dedman not only gave to SMU ($77 million) but also his undergrad alma mater, UT-Austin, & the University of North Texas!
It was Mr. Dedman who suggested (strongly) to Dr. Alfred F. Hurley years ago that NTSU change its name to the University of North Texas. Former Texas Governor and SMU alum Bill Clements signed the bill creating our new name not all that long after Dedman's suggestion. The power of suggestion with "movers and shakers?"
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In the August Reader's Digest article (page 70) on "Heart Attack: New Ways To Prevent It" UNT/HSC Associate Dean of Clinincal Research Dr. Michael Clearfield says concering the lowering of a person's cholesterol: "It's my guess that if we could magically have everyone in the country keep their LDL at 100 or less for their life span, within a generation heart disease would no longer be the No. 1 killer."
A good article (ever see a bad ones in Reader's Digest?) and as one who takes Lipitor a very topical article on cholesterol.
Wonder how many subscribers there are of Reader's Digest?
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First of all, all thanks to Stephen (ScreamingEaglesFan) West, his wife and others for putting this together tonight. There weren't as many at this evenings get together as the over 100 we had at the last Tarrant Count North Texas Exes meeting but there was a scrimmage tonight at Fouts Field at 7:00 PM. (Need I say more)? }:>)
BUT those of us there had a good time...Our new North Texas Exes Executive Director David Layton was also in attendance and urges all to join the NT Exes group (and who knows, maybe even help start one in your own area if there is not one)... See David on coordinating that part.
UNT AD Rick Villarreal and Mean Green Club associate Mandy McKinley were both also in attendance tonight and both were very upbeat about things to come in Mean Green Country.
Rick V said:
**It is imperative that we have thousands of Mean Greeners at the TCU game at Amon Carter Stadium on September 21'st. A time to make a statement to the entire Metroplex and region about what we all know is NOT our grandpappy's UNT and to make that statement on the road in Cowtown. (I plan on buying anywhere from 5-10 UNT/TCU tickets and take some of my Tarrant County friends/fellow alums with me for what I think will be just a dandy college football game on the TCU campus on the evening of September 21'st).
Rick V said:
**There are plans to get the word out to all the UNT Health Science Center at Fort Worth and the UNT-Dallas students to come up to Fouts Field and use their student Id cards to get in, uh, FREE, at ALL Mean Green home football games. To my knowledge, this has never been done (especially with our medical school in Fort Worth). We do have some present and future UNT graduated D.O.'s (and other medical professionals) from our Fort Worth school who we need to help support the Mean Green! (My own D.O. is one of them). GREAT IDEA, RICK V AND STAFF!
SPEAKING OF THE UNTHSC @ FORT WORTH: The postmaster of our med school's post office in Fort Worth has requested from me some more UNT Mean Green 2002 FB pocket schedules so she can put them in ALL of their staff, instructors and students mail boxes. (I will take her about 500 more schedules on Monday morning and may also stop off, Emmitt, at the West Seventh 7-11 store to see if they need some more UNT Mean Green FB pocket schedules as well. }:>)
Rick V said:
Negotiations are going on with some "un-named" school(s) for our future football schedule that will please many who read GoMeanGreen.com
Rick V said:
He will get with Harry Miers who owns this forum to let us ALL on GMG.com know which Denton area businesses are signed up with Mean Green Business Directory (I think Mandy McKinley said about 60 so far) so all of us who post or lurk will know who we want to do business with when we are in Denton for a football weekend from here on out. (Emmitt, you might let Rick V in on your experience at the Denton 7-11 store--I do believe he would be interested in hearing your story).
Rick V said:
It's time for all of our fans to step up to the plate as they are doing their part in giving us something that we will be proud of in Mean Green Country. ALL SYSTEMS ARE GO IN MEAN GREEN COUNTRY!
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We have all said and done things we wished we hadn't. I know I have even on this forum and have almost always regretted doing so. Sometimes our passion gets in the way of common sense or what we do and say yet that should (of course) never be an excuse. I've even been obtuse & terse with my own immediate family. (Feel bad every time, too, so I guess the conscience part of me is still functioning even in middle age).
Lets hope that UNT will be a fresh and new beginning for Stacey. It just sounds like she and her boss just had what happens to many in our work-a-day world and that's just that neither may have been members of each other's admiration sociey. Any of you ever have a boss or supervisor like that?
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Anyone can put a UNT "mini billboard" (car sticker/window decal) on their car and, trust me, people notice them on the highways because just think how most of us notice other school's. What better way of free advertisement. Wouldn't it be nice if all 100,000 plus area alums had something from UNT on their cars?
Even TCU's student parking auto window stickers look like a school spirit auto decal and I wish UNT would look into doing the same. All 30,000 UNT students this Fall should get something to stick on their car windows IMHO.
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Could it be that everyone gets their UNT fix on www.GoMeanGreen.com?
(just kiddin')
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Dr. Phil (lip) McGraw, who has a doctorate from UNT in Pschology, is featured in an very lengthy feature in today's Life & Arts section of the Fort Worth Star Telegram.
One of the questions asked "Dr. Phil" who lives in Beverly Hills yet maintains a home in Dallas was:
Q Do you consider yourself a Texan even though you weren't born there?
UNT Alum's Response: "Haven't you ever heard: Don't ever ask anyone if they're from Texas. If they are, they'll tell you soon enough, and if not, you'll just embarrass them."
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I have never heard that TWU was actually part of the A&M System since there was really no multi school A&M System (as we know it today) back in that era but hell, I learn something new from this board every day--guess that is why I enjoy reading most every post on this board.
I do know that before A&M went co-ed (what year?) that they had a special what I always heard was an unofficial male college/female college relationship since those 2 were the only such Texas schools with one gender enrollments and that (alone) being the the basis of their relationship.
I thought that in the mid 1980's when Larry Powell (?) led the Texas Select Committee on Higher Education was the most serious discussions I'd ever seen in this state with serious discussions of merging other Texas public universities besides TWU and UNT. They also kicked around the idea of merging Texas Southern U in Houston with the University of Houston.
All these talks in the mid 1980's were shot down by all the schools who would lose their identities (like TWU) and I really didn't think any of us in our lifetimes would ever see such a move on this matter again. I have always thought the merger would be a good and economical idea for the Texas taxpayers, though; plus, I am one that feels 2 universities in Denton has never been a good idea for either school as it divides the loyalties of a town that is divided enough in so many other areas with its local politics, IMO.
I think TWU and UNT's only relatioinship is what it has become now and that is TWU taking UNT's overflow students such as the reports on this board.
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Seems like the "buff" Scrappy of the 1960's with chest sticking out had an "N T" on his chest.
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I would love to see the athletic dorm's (Santa Fe House) peach colored spanish tile roof be painted dark green. Now that would look nice if you can just picture it. Wonder how much that job would cost; that is the paint and labor?
Traditions: I like what we have already and what we do have will be enhanced 100% when we start winning some football games on a regular basis. Hide--watch--and see!
AND YOU? What would you like to see change on the UNT campus; that is, cosmetically and/or our traditions?
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And a nice message board I must say, D of M !
I just registered on your board and I just know you (of ALL the 'Dawgs) look forward to my "gentle musings" over there!
A good season to the 'Dawgs...
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Quite a statement of quality and interest for this board and its main topic of discussion which is what is happening at the University of North Texas and with Mean Green athletics at the top of that list.
GMG!
"Hurley Administration Building"
in Mean Green Athletics
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I have been a supporter of Dr. Al Hurley from the "git-go" like many of you. I think he did all he could with what he had to work with beginning in the early 1980's (and the school had hardly any financial endowment in its coffers when he arrived on the scene). In fact, UNT didn't start its endowment fund raising until about 10 years before Al and Joanna Hurley arrived at UNT from the Air Force Academy. In fact, in the early 1970's, UNT's first attempts at financial emdowment fund raising among industry and its alums got off to a very shaky start and you can read about all that in Dr. James Rogers new book, The North Texas Story.
I believe it is largely because of Dr. Alfred Frances Hurley that we did not drop football in the dark days of the "post Bob Tyler" era. In a sense, we are playing the UT Longhorns tonight because of some actions taken by Alfred Hurley in the early 1980's. During that time, there was a move to do away with football on our campus and I don't think the man ever received his due in salvaging a pathetic athletic situation when there was no funding for it (also because there was hardly any Presidential discretionary fund to speak of to help supplement athletics to the extent that it was needed to save the program BUT Dr. Hurley and his staff saved football anyway). He deserves more credit than he has received in this matter IMHO.
I believe it is largely due to the quiet "low key" but aggressive lobbying style of "Brooklynite and New Yorker" Dr. Alfred Frances Hurley among some of our fellow loud, boisterous Texas redneck legislator "good ol' boys" down in Austin as to why TCOM is now among a group of schools under the umbrella of a school called: The University of North Texas Health Science Center at Fort Worth. (If you've never seen it, you owe yourself a favor to go see it now--its booming with growth and new construction just like its main campus in Denton)!
I believe the above described characteristics of one Dr. Alfred Frances Hurley is why a group of African American south Dallas County officials and politicians led by Texas State Senator Royce West (a former UTA football player) chose UNT over Texas Tech and Texas A&M to be the school of "their" choice and to eventually be the only public university located in the city limits of Dallas, Texas. BTW, a school that once it is free standing will be called: The University of North Texas at Dallas...
I believe I could go on and on about the virtues of our now Chancellor Emeritus Dr. Alfred Frances Hurley but I am most proud that I can call he and his lovely wife, Joanna, my friends. God Bless the Hurleys!