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  1. 26 minutes ago, TheColonyEagle said:

    OK....looking back at the graph...I see what you're saying now...where your conclusion comes from.

     

    I would be curious to see Texas excess deaths compared to Covid Deaths. My assumption based on that graph is the trend would be the same. Comparing US numbers to Texas numbers doesn't make sense....considering all the excess deaths that came from New York...also would like to see how many of those Covid deaths had pre-existing conditions. No I'm not trying to kill grandma but it's still important.

    Are there a TON more deaths? And in an unrelated note....why do so many people die at the start of the year? Hangover?

     

    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm#dashboard

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  2. 10 minutes ago, SteaminWillieBeamin said:


    There are not shifting around of deaths here - there are still a TON more deaths. What accounts for that if not COVID? You think magically there is some other thing killing people? 

    OK....looking back at the graph...I see what you're saying now...where your conclusion comes from.

     

    I would be curious to see Texas excess deaths compared to Covid Deaths. My assumption based on that graph is the trend would be the same. Comparing US numbers to Texas numbers doesn't make sense....considering all the excess deaths that came from New York...also would like to see how many of those Covid deaths had pre-existing conditions. No I'm not trying to kill grandma but it's still important.

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  3. 5 minutes ago, SteaminWillieBeamin said:

    If they were near proximity to a positive COVID person, they are showing symptoms and but the FDA (other less accurate test) comes back false .... but all the other factors point to a COVID diagnosis, it should be noted as such. 

    The problem is the symptoms of Covid are identical to a sinus infection ,a cold or bad allergies...and the state has said they will count it as a case. So OF COURSE the numbers are going to explode...and we're supposed to expect policy to be made based on your above assumption?

    If that's the case...I really don't have anything else to say. The cases are never going to come down if that's their criteria...how could they?

     

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  4. 44 minutes ago, Coffee and TV said:

    Official Covid death toll versus excess death tolls

     

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    OK...so why do you believe this graph? Sincere question.

    At the 47:00 mark of the video I posted above....the very entity which is your source #2 in the above graph is telling you the numbers in that graph aren't accurate and don't tell the complete story. Meaning, no one knows what "official Covid death" means....because according to the State of Texas, you don't have to have a confirmed positive Covid test to classify the death as caused by Covid. And per the bottom of the slide: "The number of Covid-19 related deaths is going to increase due to the new case definitions."

    Again...if I'm missing something here tell me. Maybe I'm looking at it wrong.

    As for the eye rolls...did you watch the video? I don't understand how anyone can believe the numbers. I didn't get that video from some wacko right wing conspiracy theory site...it's Collin County meeting on the guidance from the State of Texas regarding reporting Covid cases.

     

    Are the CDC numbers supposed to separate "associated" with Covid? What does that mean?

     

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  5. https://collincountytx.new.swagit.com/videos/62477?ts=5216

    start at the 15:00 mark 

    you think maybe this has something to do with numbers in Texas “exploding?” And isn’t it logical to think someone without COVID is now considered to have COVID? Based on the changed definition, not a positive test  

    Maybe someone smarter than me can explain this....

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  6. 10 minutes ago, SteaminWillieBeamin said:

    I am glad you recognize and don't put stock in his words. I wish all were so strong. Because his own people, that he "employs", are still out there (with much better language) trying convincing people that this is blown up and fake. 

    Pence in his own op-ed: https://www.wsj.com/articles/there-isnt-a-coronavirus-second-wave-11592327890 

    Or Trump's pressure to make sure there is no 'mask mandate' - Pence is out there swinging for the fences: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/01/trump-says-coronavirus-masks-are-good-but-doubts-national-mandate-is-needed.html

    Dr Fauci also said this isn't a second wave....because we're still in the first. Not sure what difference it makes...

    And right there in the headline! Trump says "masks are good" So going by our discussion....you should be happy with that and expect everyone to go out and wear masks now...

    “But I’m all for masks, I think masks are good,” the president said, adding that he has been seen wearing one in situations where he was in a group of people.

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  7. 3 minutes ago, SteaminWillieBeamin said:

    Yeh - know you didn't say "best words." Obviously that is using Trump's own best words to show his use of best words. And for the record - I am terrible and counting lines on a cell phone screen. To err is human, no. 

    But really - it kind of rubs me the wrong way how you can wave your hands in the air and seem to indicate that his words just are just not well placed - that he can do better. Like he is just mumbling or just not conveying how he really feels accurately.

    His words are actions. It takes actual effort to be so wrong on so many things. To pick up and tweet for often. To send out his press secretary to lie so often about the obvious. To have Pence peddle some half-truths about how we are sooooooo lucky that young people are getting it now. To press the point that "99% of people who get China-Virus is completely harmless" ... it is dangerous. Those words are actions.

    So yeh - stopping those actions is a starting point. 

    Man...I just don't get hung up on what he says.

     

    I know exactly what I'm getting with him so I don't base my life on what he says... he's the worst communicating President in our history. 

     

    I know that someone probably showed him this site: https:/www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

    and he rushed out and based his "99% of people who get it are harmless" comment on the below graphic. Because...that's literally what that says. It doesn't mean I should not wear a mask when I go to the store....

    ACTIVE CASES
    4,497,843
    Currently Infected Patients
    4,439,813 (99%)
    in Mild Condition
    58,030 (1%)
    Serious or Critical
     
     
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  8. 36 minutes ago, SteaminWillieBeamin said:

    I re-read my list and five of the seven listed items do not involve Trump's words. They are actions. Simple actions -- to not be a brazen ass. So, I don't agree at all that "most of this list" is about the President using his "best words" - we know he knows the best words.

    Ok technically 3 of the 7....and I didn’t say “best words”

    But I’ll walk back my “most” comment being that it would require 51% of your list to refer to “words.” I stand corrected. 


  9. 21 minutes ago, SteaminWillieBeamin said:

    For starters:


    Lead by example.
    Clearly state this is not a hoax and the dangers are real.
    The top leaders need to be seen wearing a mask and showing the recommended protocol. 
    Do not have mass gatherings (rallies?) in locations that have no met the CDC recommendations for public gatherings.
    Enforce a mask policy at your gathers (SD, DC 4th celebrations).
    Offer as much assistance as required and wanted by the states with an outbreak (without saying - this means to not threaten 'liberal' states that don't align with the President's ego).
    Don't lie! Stop saying that everyone who wants a test can get a test. Stop lying about the capability of tests. 

    That is just the baseline what I would expect from an administration when so many people are affected by this sickness. 

     

    All that sounds nice, but that doesn't seem like that would actually slow the physical spread of a virus to the majority of the country. Most of that list involves what the President can do better with his words...he's not that powerful

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  10. I've seen this elsewhere, but seriously, why can't we just call the football games a protest? The scientific and medical experts have told us you can't spread Covid at a protest and actually there are articles out there that say protests actually DECREASE the spread of Covid. The logical thing to do to slow the spread would be to have MORE football games...I mean protests....at Apogee....

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    Just put all those folks in green and teach them the "NORTH" "TEXAS" chant. Turn the fists into claws....(three fingers or four fingers depending on your generation...I'm assuming that crowd would go with the more modern, three finger eagle claw) With masks, the sound may be a tad muffled but there's virtually zero risk of spreading Covid if the crowd is labeled as a "protest" vs any other crowd. It's all about the label...

    We could break attendance records this year....

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  11. 10 minutes ago, TheColonyEagle said:

    I don’t really give a rats ass now...

    I was just making an observation....

    And most of the “outrage” is fake anyway being that it’s the usual folks being “outraged”

    I don’t think you have to have to be left or right to agree that “red skins” is kind of shocking. And it’s more shocking today....

    The question is....do a large portion of Native Americans even care?

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