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Those pokes sure are profuse about that emotional connection. What are they doing to them in freshman orientation?
http://union.okstate.edu/campcowboy/index.htm
I know that Tarleton has something similar to this, but Texas State really doesn't. What about UNT? Do you have a "fish camp"?
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We are pretty excited to have Bleil on staff this year. Our defensive staff was young and inexperienced last fall. We tried to play some "Desert Swarm" defense and got torched in the secondary more times than not.
Bleil seems old school. If that tightens up our defense, I will be grateful.
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I don't know how many of you like metal wall art / rustic decor / lamps & things, but I recently purchased a couple pieces of Tarleton metal work from the JC Jones Company out of Hamilton.
While their website does not show any UNT stuff, the owner said that they are glad to do custom work and they are always interested in doing more universities. All you have to do is send them the logo that you want and they can take care of it.
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Wait so let me get this straight-
The Pac-16 includes Texas Tech, and UT goes to the SEC? Really??
I forget, but didn't UT consider the Pac10, and snub the SEC, at the end of the SWC due to academics?
That would seriously piss some people off.
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Video your memory is good.
USC and UCLA are generally the best gate receipts for most Pac-10 schools and it has been long assumed that Washington, Washington State, Oregon and Oregon State would always oppose expansion because it is highly unlikely that they would end up in the same division as USC and UCLA. These were the schools who were strong proponents of the nine game schedule.
BYU does not play on Sunday. The Pac-10 plays a lot of Sunday basketball and baseball as well as playing Sunday in most every sport except football. Most of their championship tournaments play on Sunday as well. Now I happen to think BYU might have a different stance toward Sunday play if the Pac-10 were asking but we can always act like they are actually devoted to their beliefs and assume Sunday will remain an issue.
Here's the thing when you look at Pac-10 expansion. First look at how the members see themselves. Seven out of ten members are also members of the Association of American Universities (all but Arizona State, Washington State and Oregon State). The 60 AAU schools pull in 58% of all research grant funds in the US and 52% of all doctoral degrees. In the last decade nearly half of Noble Prize winners were affiliated with one of those schools and three fourths of all US winners. There are only three schools that play I-A ball that are members of the AAU that aren't in one of the six BCS auto qualifier leagues (Buffalo, Rice, and Tulane).
The Pac-10 is going to be very hesitant to look to a school that doesn't have a very high national profile academically. Not saying they will totally exclude lower tier school but it is an extra hurdle to clear.
Next look at the pool. Let's say the Pac-10 excludes Central and Eastern time zone schools from the candidate list. That leaves like 17 schools in I-A.
Now look at the TV markets of those schools. Denver is #18 but it's on the front range, you've got to cross the Rockies to get there (but Colorado is AAU). Next is San Diego at #27 but by all reports, the Pac-10 is already very strong in that market. The networks are unlikely to give more money for adding San Diego State because the impact would be minimal in market the Pac-10 dominates already (that's like the SEC adding ASU to improve in the Arkansas market or the B12 adding UNT to improve in the DFW market). Salt Lake is #35. Las Vegas is #43. Albuquerque is #45. Fresno is #55. Honolulu is #72. Spokane serving Moscow, Idaho is #77 and Washington State is in that market already. El Paso is #99. Reno is #110. Boise is #118.
All the way around there just aren't a lot of TV eyeballs to attract other than by adding the University of Colorado and a Utah school.
BYU with its huge influence in Salt Lake City and huge average attendance makes perfect sense but do you see West Coast colleges welcoming a college that deems homosexual behavior or advocacy for homosexuality to be an honor code violation that can result in expulsion?
That leaves the University of Utah but its support while outstanding among the non-BCS crowd still pales compared to most BCS schools and it generally struggles to attract top in-state students (academically) when BYU wants them.
If you pass on them next in line are UNLV and Fresno and neither come close to fitting the Pac-10's academic image of itself.
The core problem for Pac-10 expansion remains finding two schools that fit academically, athletically and bring eyeballs.
That can't be true, they have a softball team!
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I would love to put them on our schedule in football and in basketball on more of a regular basis.
I know we play a UNM in baseball quite a bit. If (and when) we move up, I would not mind playing those teams. I think they would draw better in San Marcos than Florida International or Eastern Carolina.
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Not a very "splashy" hire for them. I expected a bigger name.
Cmon? Would you really want to live in Beaumont? I know I wouldn't.
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I know that this is not the site you are looking for, but I find it to be a great tool for comparing one school with another.
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Could you imagine how embarrassed we all would feel if UTSA or Texas State pass us by in terms of Division I-A football? I believe that my UNT degree will always carrry more weight than a degree from either of those places, even if they move forward and make all of their football dreams come true, but the level of donations and prestige for those schools would soar compared to where they are now--which could really raise the view of a degree from either of those places. Meanwhile, back in Denton....
Jim,
Not to attack you personally, but I have never understood this philosophy. How does FBS football make your UNT degree more valuable than my Texas State or Tarleton State degrees? For example, Texas State's geography and Tarleton State's agriculture programs are considered some of the best in the region (if not the nation), and therefore it can be assumed that their degrees carry more weight than similar degrees from North Texas.
All of that being said, I agree with Green Mean. It does not matter if you went to the best program in the nation if you only skated by, and did not retain any information after you were finished. The education you walk away with is more important than the piece of paper on your wall.
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Here's the article from the SA Express News-
http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/localco...en.37bc6ea.html
Local Colleges: UTSA seeks 'green light' for footballWeb Posted: 05/17/2008 10:54 PM CDT
By John Whisler
jwhisler@express-news.net
UTSA president Ricardo Romo expects approval of a business plan that could lead to the kickoff of Division I football at the school as early as 2011.
If the plan is approved by University of Texas System Board of Regents next month, Romo said UTSA could start interviewing coaching candidates by this fall.
“We could find someone who can't start right away,” Romo said. “Or, we may find a coach who says, ‘I'm there in September.'”
In any case, Romo said the hope is that a coach could be hired by February 2009. That would give the coach a chance to sign recruiting classes in 2010 and 2011, setting the stage for the Roadrunners to tee it up at the Alamodome for the first time that fall.
But the president cautioned this is a “best-case scenario,” pending approval of UT system chancellors and regents.
“They've given us all green lights so far,” Romo said. “We're anticipating a green light on this, too.”
UTSA
In March, regents agreed to raise tuition and fees at its system schools over the next two years, a decision that included the approval of a student-generated proposal to increase the athletics fee at UTSA.
The increase, decisively supported in a campus referendum last fall, was a major step in UTSA's quest to field a Division I team.
Equally significant to UTSA athletics upgrades was approval by voters in a Bexar County election last week to extend the venue tax for amateur sports facilities, a proposal that ensured UTSA would receive $15 million in funding for a proposed multi-sport complex.
The addition of football and the construction of the complex are part of an overall plan to elevate UTSA's status in NCAA Division I.
Previously, athletic director Lynn Hickey has served as the primary spokeswoman for the plan, since the university released results of a feasibility study 18 months ago.
Now, the addition of Romo's voice in the discourse could be viewed as a positive to those who would like to see higher-profile athletics, including football, at a university that has sponsored sports teams since 1981.
Hickey applauded Romo's leadership.
“It's an honor to be part of his program,'' Hickey said. “He's the one who keeps our priorities in check. He makes sure we are an academic institution first. Hopefully, in athletics, we can match what he's done with the total university.''
The proposed athletics complex would serve as a competition site for UTSA teams in track and field, soccer, baseball, softball and tennis. It also would be a practice site for football.
A core building on the property is planned for locker, training and office space.
In addition, the facility would be shared with the public, utilized as a venue for events that would attract tourist dollars to the city. The facility would be built on UTSA property, a 125-acre tract west of the Loop 1604 main campus.
Romo said the total price tag for the athletics complex, at first estimated at $60 million, is now expected to be $80 million.
UTSA already has acquired the land for about $20 million and, over the past five years, has raised another $22 million in public financing.
Romo said the rest of the money for the project likely would come through private fundraising efforts.
The immediate plan for the complex, Romo said, is to begin construction on phase one — a track and field stadium that would meet international specifications, and a soccer stadium capable of hosting major events — within two years.
Romo said coaches in those sports already are beginning to use the proposed stadiums as recruiting tools.
“They're showing them artist renderings and saying, ‘This is where we're going to be playing,'” he said. “We want to be playing our first games by 2010.”
In April, Romo led a group of UTSA officials on a fact-finding trip to Orlando, Fla., to view facilities at the University of Central Florida, a member of Conference USA.
Central Florida's $107 million multi-sports complex includes a commercial development with university dormitories and 100,000-square feet of retail space.
“It was impressive,” Romo said. “But there were some aspects of it that wouldn't work for us.”
The expansion of UTSA athletics is part of a strategic plan “to build a premier public research university,” said David Gabler, assistant vice president for university communications.
“And football,'' Gabler said, “is an important part of that.”
Online at: http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/localco...en.37bc6ea.html
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We have played Texas State more than any other team and hold a commanding lead in the all-time series. I'd be happy to play them, however there is no reason for us to play at Texas State until they are Div 1. They are welcome to come up here as often as they like.
I can understand why you wouldn't want to travel to an FCS stadium, just as Texas State wouldn't go on the road to Tarleton or A&M-Kingsville. However, if you time it right, you can still get a trip to Austin, a toobing trip, and your wives could spend all of your money at the outlet malls.
That being said, I would love to come to Denton to play a game. Hopefully we can start to schedule some games as we get closer to the FBS move.
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As someone who completed his MA one year ago, I think it is horrible not to honor those students. I spent countless hours in my office reading, researching, and writing to complete my degree. I chose to attend the ceremony because I wanted the public hooding. As someone else said, Academia is all about Pomp and Circumstance. There is something special about the university taking the time to recognize the accomplishments of those students who put forth all of that effort. Not only did I do my own research (and resume building), but I also helped the university do historic preservation which was incorporated into their 10-year masterplan and I helped several of my faculty research for their own topics.
Maybe UNT should consider adding a graduate degree-only ceremony.
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Not a fair comparison because the Rangers are a professional team and teams like Anaheim, Seattle, and Oakland are well known. If you ask me, I'd rather play WAC teams than Sunbelt teams. Its a lot more appealing to play Fresno State rather than ULM....just my opinion. And if we have a true fan base then they wont mind watching games starting a little later than normal. And by the way...winning cures everything. If you win, they will watch...simple as that no matter where or what time they are playing.
The only thing I like about the WAC is that *some of* their teams have national name recognition. Everyone knows Boise, Hawaii, and Fresno, but aside from that can you name the rest of the conference.
I guess to be fair most outsiders can only name a handful of Sunbelt teams, so it wouldn't be that much different.
UNTLifer makes a very good point. I am a Rangers and Stars fan, and it really sucks that all the rest of our divisions are two hours behind and on the west coast.
People say that Texas State should look at the WAC, but I would hate to think that our closest Regional opponents are Louisiana Tech or NM State. Can you imagine cost associated with road games to Idaho and Hawaii regularly?
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They are not TSU. They are officially TSU-SM, Texas State University - San Marcos.
I agree, Texas State is not TSU. TSU will always be Tarleton State for me. This is a screen name that I have used since my time at Tarleton State University.
People from Houston will see Texas Southern as TSU. The abbreviation for Texas State that I usually see is TXST.
Just for the Record
My undergrad is from Tarleton
My grad degree is from Texas State
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Wow!
After moves like that, I am really worried about our game against the Ponies in September.
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I would prefer to actually be able to see my team play an away game every now and again without traveling halfway across the country.
Honestly,
I would look forward to games against North Texas.
From lurking around this board, I get the impression that you guys would welcome more Texas opponents to develop a rivalry.
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I had Kansas winning from the beginning. I am in the lead on a couple of my brackets, but Memphis making it to final game hurt me.
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I am new to this board, but I am have been lurking for sometime.
In answer to the initial post of this thread, I don't think that presenting yourself as a "College Value" is a bad thing. For many people, especially from lower-to-middle income, first generation families, cost of attendance is a major factor. I know I concerned when I started looking for colleges at 17. My family did not make a lot of money and I was the first one to consider college, so we had no idea how the financial aid system worked. I looked at a variety of institutions (never UNT because they did not market in the wastelands between Waco and Abilene). In the end, I chose Tarleton because they provided the best financial aid package. One of Tarleton's missions is to provide a quality education at a reasonable cost. This draws quite a few people.
Even though I have only been out of school for a short period of time, I am a proud alumnus. I am a member the alumni association, I donate money to the university, and I frequently return to Stephenville for Athletic events. I am not however season ticket holder because I cannot convince myself to drive 500 miles each week to return home. Instead, I purchase the annual online web-stream package. We have pretty good teams, so it makes it easy for me to give money back, however we play D2 so nobody gives a rats ass. That does not stop me from being just as boastful around the coffee pot as everyone else.
The problem is that either need to have a perennial winner or you need to brainwash your fans. The Aggies have the right idea, and Tarleton has copied them in that respect. We send our freshmen to brainwashing... I mean Duck... Camp the weekend before school starts. They learn University traditions, lore, and history. The hope is that by they time to return to campus Sunday night, they are not freaked out by the Purple clowns running around, the guys in purples chaps, and they are familiar with all of the cheers. It makes them feel like part of the university from the beginning and benefits student retention.
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DALLAS (AP) - Four Texas metropolitan areas were among the biggest population gainers as Americans continued their trend of moving to the Sun Belt in 2006 and 2007, according to Census Bureau estimates to be released Thursday.
Dallas-Fort Worth added more than 162,000 residents between July 2006 and July 2007, more than any other metro area. Three other Texas areas - Houston, Austin and San Antonio - also cracked the top 10.
Atlanta saw the second-largest population jump with just over 151,000 new residents. Phoenix was third with more than 132,000, and was followed by Houston, Riverside, Calif., Charlotte, N.C., Chicago, Austin, Las Vegas and San Antonio.
Of the 50 fastest-growing metro areas, 27 were in the South and 20 were in the West. Two were in the Midwest, one - Fayetteville, Ark. - straddles the South and Midwest and none was in the Northeast.
Detroit lost more than three times as many people as any other metro area - its population declined more than 27,300. Other areas losing more than 5,000 people were Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Columbus, Ga., Youngstown, Ohio, and Buffalo, N.Y.
Experts credit much of the growth in the South to relatively strong local economies and housing prices that are among the most affordable in the U.S.
"People are running away from unaffordable housing, from the economic slowdown," said Karl Eschbach, a state demographer in Texas. "I would expect Texas to stay at the top of a slowing game."
According to figures compiled by Eschbach, 16 percent of Americans who moved to other states between July 2006 and July 2007 came to Texas, which led the nation for the second straight year in that category.
Home prices continue to be a big factor. A report earlier this month by Global Insight found that housing prices in the Dallas area were undervalued by as much as 30 percent.
Ann Sekesan, a pharmacy technician, moved her family from Pennsylvania to suburban Fort Worth last June after seeing spacious homes in Texas for under $200,000 on a television show.
"After we saw that on TV, my husband and I looked at each other and said, 'Have you ever been to Texas?" Sekesan said. "It's amazing the size of a home you can get down here. It's just incredible."
The Metroplex is great. Is there any wonder why people wouldn't move there.
More & More Are Doin' It
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Posted · Edited by Chrisattsu
First, Don't schedule a D2. There is no point for any FBS team to schedule a D2, especially with the number of FCS teams around.
Second, I really hate it when people treat FCS as if it were equal to D2. They are not the same thing. While FCS may be perceived as a step below in the pecking order during football season, they are peers when it comes to everything else.
Now on to your questions--
Scheduling a 'lesser' team?
From what I have seen, Tarleton schedules a lesser D2 school (and they have scheduled NAIA teams) for their first home game of the season every year. Fans and alumni are starved for football, and they want to get new students excited about the team from the git-go. It may be an Blowout win, but it is a WIN none-the-less. Texas State and the other Southland teams play a D2 team early every season for the same reason.
Big XII teams do the same thing with FCS or lower-tier FBS teams. This happens at every level of play and for the same reason. People like to see a winning product. It reminds me of an old Coach-ism, "Be the Hammer". You can be a nail and walk away with your money in a bodybag game, or you can be the hammer and host a lesser team.
What if you lose?
Someone has to lose, and upsets occur every year. However, the odds are stacked in the favor of the host team. Aside from a few FCS fans, how many people remember that Nicholls State beat Rice last year? Texas State lost to Abilene Christian (D2) last year and all hell broke loose. Is it deflating? Yes, but nobody cares once you start winning games.
Will it affect recruiting?
Not really. Everyone expects you to have a tune-up game. Now, you might have a problem if you changed all of your money games from FCS games, but changing one won't hurt.