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14 hours ago, UNTexas said:
Good post. I do think you guys are in the same boat with us these days as far as being ouutside the P5 world. Both our programs aren't doing really well these days in football. Arguing who's more prominent is a bit much. Both programs have destroyed themselves from the inside out. UNT through straight up neglect by the university and SMU debacle back in the 80s that it has never recovered from. I think its a good thing that our schools our playing each other. I really enjoyed the game at SMU last year.
We definitely have been our own worst enemy. We were in great position in 2011 but June quit on us and that set us back at least five years.
Glad you had a good time last year. I met a lot of great people from UNT. I am hopeful to make it to the pre-game Saturday but I might have to work during the day. Either way I'll be at the game.
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3 hours ago, UNTLifer said:
MJavierSMU, you seem like a pretty good guy and reasonable in your points. Historically, you are as rare as the mythical chupacabra, so pardon some of us for our dislike.
No worries. We're not all bad. It's no differebt than some of the fools on ponyfans. lol l'm looking forward to a good game Saturday.
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I liked the super pit and enjoyed the game. Your team had talent but seemed unsure of what to do late in the game.
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5 minutes ago, UNTFan23 said:
Announced attendance was 1903. I don't recall the game as to whether the attendance was factually reported or not.
Sorry, I was a little high with the guess but my point is the official number was obviously tickets sold and not butts in seats. Every school does it that way.
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8 minutes ago, Army of Dad said:
Which game?
Western Kentucky. That is why I came to this site to ask about the game. And I was not greeted kindly, which really surprised me. I found out that I'm a d-bag, I pop my collar and my rich dad got me into SMU. lol
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19 minutes ago, Silent Eagle said:
I think you're in denial at best, delusional at worst. Look, this is not a personal attack against you, but it's going to describe your entire fan base (all 11 of them)... Nobody cares about the "National Championship"- it's looked upon with the same level of legitimacy as TAMUs. The only time since the 1940s that you had a respectable football team, it was because you had a payroll higher than the Miami Dolphins. So, when I read on your posting board that you are curious as to why you're not ranked as high on the list of college football blue bloods, it leads to me spilling my coffee on my lap as I'm laughing so hard. Secondly, you have the same garbage attendance woes that we experience. You can't get people to go to the games that are not students. And, your ticket counters become task force Enron and cook the numbers to try to keep up with TCU's attendance numbers. Third, we both struggle to get talent to stay home, especially with the big red threat emerging down in Houston, on top of TCUs continued success. You had a string of bowl appearances for four years (granted more recent than ours) and we had a string of bowl appearances. The only difference between the two programs is yours has a story of success (which nobody but you remembers) and that manages to carry you to a better reputation than us. You had the death penalty because you cheated your collective @$$e$ off and still didn't get a NC out of it (still laugh about the holiday bowl- who blows a lead that big). Your program cratered, and still has not recovered. We dropped to 1-aa and still haven't recovered. We have a young, energetic staff that came from successful stints everywhere he went, you have the same.
Face it- we are the SAME program. WE are rivals. You guys just don't want to admit it because if you do, it means you're no longer the pony express-which, come on guys, let it go. It's no longer the late 70s, early 80s. Get over yourselves. Embrace it. Your coach does.
I never mentioned the national championship. You did. I never mentioned football blue bloods. You did. Our attendance in football is terrible unless we're playing a former SWC rival, there is no denying that. As for cooking up attendance numbers, it is the same practice at every school - UNT, TCU, Baylor, Texas St, Rice or name any other school. They count tickets sold. I went to a UNT basketball game last season and there might have been 500 people in the place but the announced attendance was around 3,000. Y'all act like SMU is the only one who does this. The cheating thing has been beat to death but again, everyone was doing it, SMU just got caught. We deserved what we got but so did UT, A&M, TCU.......
SMU and UNT are at the same level of success right now but we are not the same program. We are coming from vastly different places. History does count for something. The value or meaning of that history is debatable. SMU and Rice is a better comparison as being the SAME program. Based on the comments on this board most of the hate of SMU has nothing to do with athletic competition. It seems to have more to do with the broad brush you paint anyone associated with SMU. That alone doesn't make a rivalry. Has one of our games (football or basketball) ever sold out? Two schools located an hour apart and a game has never sold out? That's a rivalry? The TCU game in a few weeks will be sold out, and we are terrible. The TCU basketball game at Moody in November will be sold out, and they are terrible. That's a rivalry because of the history and similarity of the schools.
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3 minutes ago, Ben Gooding said:
Yeah, UH was a blunder question. But to note, smug and UNT have many of players in their final 3. Truat me I know, we lose many of those recruiting battles. But I have a feeling that might be changing in the very near future.
It could change. I think Littrell was a good hire. Time will tell. One thing SMU and UNT do have in common is there is nowhere to go but up in football.
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15 minutes ago, Ben Gooding said:
Uh huh. Oooook.
Smug and UNT often recruit the same football players. How could you not know this. And when was the last time smug played UH or Rice in anything?
UNT and SMU may offer some of the same players but how often does it come down to SMU and UNT in the recruit's final group? Pretty sure that is rare. With SMU and Houston it is almost every recruit. And I can't ever remember SMU and UNT after the same hoops recruit. Lately our biggest competition on hoops recruiting has been OU and TCU.
When was the last time SMU played UH in anything? Last year, and the year before, and the year before........you play the schools in your conference. Same goes for Rice before we left C-USA three years ago.
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47 minutes ago, GreenTexan13 said:
Maybe someone forgot to tell him to ask what his coach thinks of SMU's top 5 rivals?
I copied and pasted from my other post......
What do you think Morris is gong to say when asked that by a reporter? No, I don't think of them as a rival. It's just another game. Or....no way, we are looking forward to next week against Baylor. Of course not. He would've had the same response if asked that about Texas St or UTEP. It's game week and he's got to get his team fired up. Hell, June Jones used to call everyone a rival.
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51 minutes ago, UNTLifer said:
No. I was talking about the schools I placed in bold. Pretty clear if you read it.
Might want to see what your head coach thinks. Oh wait, here you go.
What do you think Morris is gong to say when asked that by a reporter? No, I don't think of them as a rival. It's just another game. No way, we are looking forward to next week against Baylor. Of course not. He would've had the same response if asked that about Texas St or UTEP. It's game week and he's got to get his team fired up. Hell, June Jones used to call everyone a rival.
1 hour ago, UNTLifer said:None of those schools, except maybe TCU because you all play for a cooking implement, considers SMU their rival...none. So, your first sentence fits here too.
You honestly don't think UH considers us a rival?? We go head-to-head with them for almost every recruit in football and lately basketball. And you don't think Rice considers us a rival?? With UH and Rice we have conference history, recruiting history and a long history of competing on the field and court but they are not our rivals. With UNT we have never been in the same conference. We've rarely played you in football, very rarely played you in hoops and we don't recruit many of the same kids but that is a rivalry?? Okay.
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On 8/27/2016 at 9:27 PM, Side Show Joe said:
SMU is our rival. Just because they live in denial doesn't change the facts.
We certainly aren't their only rival, but I believe we are the best one they have right now. They have lost most of their old rivals since the death penalty. TCU has moved on since joining the Big12. Now Houston is trying to make a move and seems to be viewing SMU as being beneath them. Sure they still have rivalries with the likes of Tulsa and Tulane, but our battle in DFW certainly means more to their fans then games against those private schools. I can't remember any SMU coach stepping down after a loss to Tulane or Tulsa.
SMU needs to realize they have a unique football history. They need to learn to separate the pre-death penalty years from the post-death penalty years. They just are not that program anymore. They want to pretend they are still that old Southwest Conference program, with rivals like TCU, but they just aren't.
In the past 10 seasons North Texas is 2-2 versus SMU. We compete with them for attention in DFW. And, we also target many of the same recruits.
SMU is our biggest rival, and we are theirs, regardless of what they think.
I don't think you can tell someone you're their rival and suddenly it is true. I'm not sure if you are joking about UNT being SMU's biggest rival, or not? But what do you base that on, seriously? If you asked any SMU fan (current student, young alum, old alum) who are SMU's rivals, I don't think anyone would say UNT. And that is nothing against UNT. It's just that we have never been in the same conference and we've rarely played each other. If I had to name SMU's top 5 rivals they would be TCU, UH, Baylor, Rice and maybe Texas Tech since we have continued to play them post SWC.
TCU has moved on and they are doing well but we continue to play them every year in most sports and just as important is the schools are very similar - private, compete for the same students, similar student bodies, 40 miles apart and we were in a conference together for over 80 years. Also, despite the recent success of TCU football the all-time records in football and basketball are still close. Football - TCU leads 48-40-8. Basketball - SMU leads 109-89.
After visiting your board for awhile now, there are many posters on here who seem to really hate SMU for whatever reason, and I'm not asking why as I've read the many stereotypes posted about SMU over and over. Honestly, before visiting this board I had no clue there was any animosity between the school's fans. Most of my SMU friends I stay in contact with love Denton and have nothing bad to say about UNT. Also, the UNT people I know and work with have never once mentioned that they dislike SMU in anyway. I'm not trying to change your opinion of SMU because I know I'm not going to but I have no idea where all the hate comes from, and we have never blackballed you from a conference since I've been at SMU (mid-2000s). That's a myth.
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19 minutes ago, UNT90 said:
I don't think so. Pretty sure the out clause was after 4 years. I don't think SMU would sign anything like you are suggesting. Unlike the last AD, they understand college football is a constantly changing business and realize this wouldn't benefit them. Plus I distinctly remember it being after the 4th year (when Vito found out about it, because it wasn't announced at all at the time the contract was done).
Maybe Vito can give us the answer.
I was told the out clause is after four years, too. With the expansion mess, I haven't heard anything recently from Morris or Hart on our OOC schedule other than keeping TCU on the schedule. This is our last year with Baylor.
One last thing on what we offer to the Big 12. This was just released by ESPN. SMU is the toughest building for opponents the AAC. This saying something in a basketball conference with UConn, Cincy, Memphis and Temple.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/
Also, I just read about your new AD. I think you guys made a good hire - young, energetic and from a P5 school.
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25 minutes ago, UNT90 said:
You don't have the bolded, which is huge.
The UTSA reference was them getting into CUSA based only on a TV market and not EARNING their way by building facilities (and they still haven't). Just like SMU hasn't EARNED a promotion to any P5 by failure to excell at football.
It doesn't matter what your Scout rep thinks, it matters what your President and AD think. I'm not one of the big conspiracy theorist on here and I harbor no ill will toward SMU. I don't even consider us rivals. But is doesn't make sense for the AAC to want UNT when they have SMU. Same for the Big 12, TCU, and SMU.
Win. Then ask for a promotion.
I agree with you. The Big 12 suddenly deciding to expand now is the worst thing for SMU. Unfortunately, we didn't get to choose the timing of the promotion process. We could either sit quietly in the corner and get left behind, or throw a Hail Mary and hope for the best. Of course, we'd prefer this was on the heels of a Houston type season.
You're right that our Scout rep's opinion is meaningless but it I have a couple of contacts in the administration and I've never once heard them say anything about SMU trying to keep UNT out of a conference. Plus, we only have one vote like all of the other schools. Now that TCU has made it back to P5, they have publicly stated they would like to have SMU in their conference again. They know there are a lot of benefits of having a true natural rival in the conference.
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18 minutes ago, UNT90 said:
Larry Brown has left the building. If history is any indicator, recruiting violations and probation are right around the corner.
SMU is a high G5 in basketball and a turd of a G5 in the program that matters: football. They have a 31k seat stadium that isn't anywhere near what a P5 wants and are 30 miles from TCU, which is in this market and the Big 12.
SMU fans should ask themselves if they are ok with UNT entering the AAC assuming SMU remains. All of the same reasons you are diametrically opposed to UNT coming to the AAC are the same reasons TCU will be opposed to your inclusion in the Big 12.
And, seriously, stop being UTSA. You haven't earned your way into the Big 12 like TCU did.
So just stop...
We have served the probation. Other than a possible APR issue which I've heard will not be an issue, we're fine moving forward.
As for the stadium, we can get it to 45-50K by adding a 2nd deck if that is required. Before TCU's success their attendance was no better than ours. Baylor, too, unless they were playing UT or OU.
I've stated this before, never heard any truth that SMU has tried to keep UNT out of any conference. Even if we did, we simply don't have the power to blackball a school. In fact, our Scout publisher listed his top two schools today to replace UH and Cincy in the AAC and they were UNT and Marshall.
I don't get the UTSA reference, so I guess I've got nothing on that.
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5 hours ago, Green Mean said:
Bear in mind it's just an editorial. SMU offers a P5 conference zilch at this point. All they can say is they have the funds to do whatever they need and want to do and that they have a history being in the SWC. Other than that SMU offers nothing.
I'll argue that we offer zilch. I have no idea why people think SMU basketball is about to tank. It is actually the complete opposite. Our team this year might be our best during this stretch. We have three, possibly four, NBA players on the roster (Shake, Semi, Ben Moore and Sterling Brown who is the brother of former NBAer Shannon Brown). Jank will open the offense up a little more than LB and every game will once again be a sellout. Even though we wont start the season ranked we have been ranked 29 weeks in the past three season and we should add to that.
As for the Big 12, l don't think we get in but we offer a top 25 level basketball program with excellent fan support, planned upgraded facilities in football, another game every other year in football and every year in basketball in Dallas, huge corporate sponsorship possibilities and excellent soccer, golf, volleyball and swimming programs, we do offer a little.
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3 minutes ago, greenminer said:
what recruiting policies were in place that handcuffed program development?
Until a couple of years ago, a recruit had to be admitted to the school before he could take an official visit.
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I hope everyone at UNT is doing well and having a nice summer. After the HUGE day for your conference mate I thought I'd stop by your board to see the reaction but there's nothing??
W Kentucky landed 2017 5-star center Mitchell Robinson today. He's a top 20 player in the class. And W Kentucky got an invite to the 2017 Battle for Atlantis, SMU did as well. The eight schools are Arizona, Nova, NC St, Tennessee, Purdue, SMU, N Iowa and W Kentucky. This is huge for your conference because each school gets $2 million for participating.
Anyway, great day for W Kentucky and a good day for C-USA.
Sorry, I thought I was posting this on the bball board. I'm not sure how to move it....
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9 minutes ago, pastorgrant said:
Regular visit on a school day, and I wasn't wearing UNT gear, either. My wife left there on the verge of tears.
Well, I hate to hear that. Sorry for your unpleasant visit. I wouldn't think wearing UNT gear would have mattered. I had no clue there was any animosity towards SMU from UNT people until I visited this board. I only asked that because visiting fans during a football game at just about any school will catch a little grief but on just a regular visit, that's strange.
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2 minutes ago, pastorgrant said:
I don't know about racist, but SMUg is a fair nickname, based on my experience on campus.
2 minutes ago, pastorgrant said:I don't know about racist, but SMUg is a fair nickname, based on my experience on campus.
Fair enough but was it during a football against UNT, or just a regular visit on a school day?
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1 hour ago, Ryan Munthe said:
Cool. I'm really glad that you had a positive experience at school.
http://college.usatoday.com/2015/10/30/southern-methodist-university-racist-greekrank-sorority-post/
http://www.smudailycampus.com/news/race-still-an-issue-at-smu
In fact, minorities feel so ostracized at SMU they started a hashtag about it:
http://interactives.dallasnews.com/2015/blackatsmu/
Is it possible for you to post without insulting someone? Then after someone throws it back you get all "oh insults I see".
I'm curious. Are you 40 and single? I don't understand how anyone could possibly deal with you.
Again, I said there's still a lot of room for improvement at SMU, and at similar universities like TCU and Baylor but I can only speak to my experience.
I've got plenty of black friends who also loved their experience at SMU but you make it sound like SMU is full of racist, hateful people based on a few isolated incidents reported in the media. I bet if I did a little research I could find reports of racial incidents that have occurred at UNT, and at TCU, and at Baylor. A couple of weeks ago a group of students from Dallas visiting A&M were harassed by A&M students based on their race. Does that make everyone at A&M a racist and College Station a cesspool? Sorry, I know that example does not help your SMU/Dallas hate argument but I thought it was worthy to bring up.
I just find it funny that someone constantly condemning a group for their supposed hateful ways does nothing but throw out hate himself. Kind of ironic, huh?
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17 hours ago, Ryan Munthe said:
Because SMU is pathetic. I've met a disproportionate amount of douchebags from SMU.
0% chance SMU cancels. Rick may do a lot of things wrong, but he's not going to let you out of the contract. He hates SMU more than we do, and wants to see you guys get your ass kicked repeatedly or barely beat a 1-11 team. Sorry, bud. You'll continue to have to rely on us to fill your shitty stadium.
Also, admit it. Your school is a cesspool of Dallas racism and classism. I once read an article with a killer punchline; "Dallas's culture only stems from when white men are shot in it." F SMU and everything it represents.
Wow.
In the few times I visited this board over the past year and a half your posts have stood out, especially if the topic is SMU and/or Dallas with the supposed racism and lack of culture. There is a definite common theme and agenda with your posts.
As a middle-class minority I had a great experience at SMU and living in Dallas. Most all private schools still need to improve with diversity but I never felt out of place and neither did my close group of friends.
That was my experience but apparently you know more about racism at SMU than I do because you bring it up, A LOT. I'm sure I'm not going to change your opinion of SMU or Dallas because message board bullies rarely back down. So continue your hate message and good luck with it.
BTW, I've enjoyed my trips to Denton and UNT, great college town and a great school. The only times treated poorly were my few trips to this board and a couple of people with rude comments at the Super Pit recently (I was wearing my SMU basketball hat). But most UNT people were very friendly and we had a great time at the game.
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18 minutes ago, Eagle-96 said:
Wow. Dallas could not care less about SMU sports. They really couldn't. If you think Dallas cares about SMU athletics then I can't help you. I really can't.
National Championship? Seriously? You're really gonna claim that? I'm embarrassed for you.
"The 1935 Mustangs were crowned national champions by Frank Dickinson a nationally respected economics professor at the University of Illinois. Although Minnesota was proclaimed the 1935 national champion by the AP and UPI polls, SMU usually claims the 1935 national title without qualification, even though they lost the Rose Bowl."
That's the weakest argument for winning a National Championship ever. Bar none.
SMU basketball made the Final Four 60 years ago. 60 YEARS AGO. Might want to put that one in the attic and stop puffing your chest out about that one. Larry will ride off into the sunset
For the record, UNT athletics is abysmal in the revenue sports. We get even less attention in DFW than SMU if that is even possible. I am not saying we are better than SMU, because right now we are not. But don't come here claiming how great SMU is. We're the last two kids on the playground getting picked for teams. Just because you are less terrible than we are does not make you great.
Honest question, where did the serious hate for SMU from some of the people on this board come from? I really don't understand it. I get that some of you may have run into a few d-bags at one of our games, or just had a bad experience with something SMU but wow some of you are bitter. There are a-holes, d-bags, sorry people at every school, and there are also really good, smart people at every school. As much as I dislike TCU, I don't pigeonhole the entire school. You can judge and stereotype all you want. That's up to you.
Anyway, back to the sports discussion. Dallas cares about a winner. And currently Dallas definitely cares about SMU basketball. It shows in the people going to the games and the tv ratings. Similar to FW with TCU football.
Another question, where did I ever say SMU is great? One of your posters claimed the greatest success SMU has had in football and basketball was a result of cheating. That is absolutely untrue and I just pointed it out examples of each. I don't see how that is me puffing my chest out about anything?
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3 minutes ago, TreeFiddy said:
MJ, what is the story with the TCU series. It is not on the schedule past 2018. Is there a high likelihood that it doesn't get extended?
It looks like this year's TCU game and the one in 2018 are the only P5 programs smoo currently has scheduled at home. Otherwise, it's a steady stream of TxSt, Liberty, Stephen F Austin, and Abilene Christian outside of the UNT series at home. Is it getting tougher to get the P5's to come to Ford?
I was told Hart and Del Conte have agreed to extend the series. It just hasn't been announced. Del Conte is on record saying as long as he is the AD, TCU will play SMU every year. Baylor and Tech are the two we are trying to get moving forward. The D2 schools you mentioned are sprinkled in to get a supposed easy win, but that isn't always the case, see James Madison.
It's not tough at all getting schools to come to Ford. They see it as an easy win and the chance to play in front of Dallas area recruits. It's the compete opposite with Moody. It is next to impossible right now for us to get a P5 school to do a home-home. Arkansas, Michigan and Gonzaga (not a P5 but an elite bball school) are the only three during Larry's tenure to visit Moody and we are having a lot of trouble finding takers moving forward.
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2 minutes ago, emmitt01 said:
Sure. Tell yourself that recruits (who would have historically never given SMU a second look) all of a sudden wanted to come to SMU because of a new coach...and that the fact he left TWO schools holding the bag after his cheating was discovered isn't relevant.
Again, WAY overpaid for that hilltop learnin'
The coach is a legend, who is like a father figure to Allen Iverson, so yeah, it definitely gets SMU second looks from elite recruits.
As for Larry's history, you must not be aware of what happened at UCLA or Kansas. This recent article tells the story that most don't know, or don't want to know, about those stops.
Who is UNT's football rival?
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Wow. You seem to bring race into a lot of your posts. In my short time on this board, I've read several threads when you bring the topic up out of nowhere. Strange. But since you brought it up, I'll address a few of the many inaccuracies you've posted in this thread. I apologize for using facts to get in the way of your message.
1. SMU is far from the easiest private school in Texas to get into. TCU and Baylor both are easier and have lower SAT/ACT scores and average HS GPAs.
2. Being a 'white dude" as you put it does not make it easier to get into SMU. And SMU is actually less white than its peer privates except for Rice. Baylor and SMU have almost the same percentage of whites, but SMU is more international. Per Forbes demographics for the 2015-16 school year:
SMU: White - 65%, Hispanic -12%, Black - 5%, Asian 7%, International/foreign - 7%
TCU: White - 74%, Hispanic -11%, Black - 5%, Asian 3%, International/foreign - 5%
Baylor: White - 64%, Hispanic -14%, Black - 7%, Asian 6%, International/foreign - 3%
Tulane: White - 71%, Hispanic -6%, Black - 9%, Asian 4%, International/foreign - 3%
Rice: White - 38%, Hispanic -15%, Black - 7%, Asian 22%, International/foreign - 12%
Rice is easily the most diverse of the major privates because it is an incredibly great institution that gets many international students due to its reputation. SMU is second in international students and almost equal with Baylor in overall diversity. TCU and Tulane are the least diverse by quite a bit, but I guess for some reason it is a benefit to be a "white dude" at SMU over other schools.....
Lastly, you mentioned in another post in this thread that SMU has "dry businesses around campus." Can you please name one? I'll wait..........
It might take you a while because there aren't any. You're about a decade late with statement. I know haters are gonna hate, but at least know what you're talking about when you throw out supposed facts.