[Mountain West or AAC?]

40 minutes ago, MeanGreenTexan said:

That is not a popular opinion sir.   Most here would be more than content to travel with at least 1 other school.  
Going it alone would be rough though.

I just remember a lot of discussion in the OLD WAC expansion and Some MWC talk when Boise and SDSU were thinking of leaving a few years ago.  The thought from many Texas schools fans, not UNT if I remember, was you had to invite 4 Texas schools to get any of them.    TCU did break that mold though

[Mountain West or AAC?]

3 hours ago, Legend500 said:

Moving from the kitchen to the smoking lounge won't change the fact that we're all on the Titanic. No moves unless a majority of Texas schools are included with us.

tough choices

[Pros & Cons of the CUSA/AAC Realignment]

20 minutes ago, untjim1995 said:

There was a negative chance that the AAC was ever gonna do this. 

Smatresk and Judy were doing this to get the SBC on board. That’s their only hope.

It appears as if the MWC has decided to hold steady until someone else gets picked off by the Big XII or PAC 12. That could be years away. I suspect that AAC will add Army (football only), and three of the following CUSA teams (Charlotte, UAB, MUTS, FAU, and I guess UTSA or Rice). And I bet the SBC adds Marshall and USM. And we get stuck with an even more watered down CUSA.

I believe Army already told them no

[Pros & Cons of the CUSA/AAC Realignment]

18 minutes ago, untjim1995 said:

If UTSA turned down the MWC or the AAC, they deserve CUSA forever…

it was 2013 and here is an article.  rumor was they did not engage with the MWC at all at the time.  But who really knows what happened behind the scenes.  Like I said Thompson is quiet and not a carnival barker like Aresco.

San Diego State did not join the Big East and expansion never happened

 

https://www.mwcconnection.com/2013/1/8/3849464/mountain-west-expansion-tulsa-ut-san-antonio

[Pros & Cons of the CUSA/AAC Realignment]

25 minutes ago, Jonnyeagle said:

Thank you for spending time with us.  Would you personally be ok with UNT joining or would you be against it?  I have no problem either way just interested in your personal perspective.

I have always thought the WAC or MWC was better with a Texas presence like UTEP or TCU.    The WAC 16 went overboard and had too much concentration in Texas making divisions difficult to achieve. I do support an expansion of 1-2 teams in Texas.  Partly to help balance the conference and partly as a buffer if Boise and another school leaves..

I know little about UNT at this point and that is why I joined to listen and see your viewpoints.  I know UTSA was briefly courted by the MWC a few years ago but they turned the MWC down was the thought at the time.  

[Pros & Cons of the CUSA/AAC Realignment]

Here is a press release on the  MWC TV deal just for information from a Casper Wyo paper.

 

https://trib.com/sports/college/wyoming/football/mountain-west-strikes-six-year-270-million-tv-media-rights-deal/article_71eded22-561e-5ba1-81da-ffc9913fe301.html

[Pros & Cons of the CUSA/AAC Realignment]

1 hour ago, MeanGreenTexan said:

Hello Billings,
I see you're new around here.   Welcome!
Are you a fan of a MWC school?   If so, who?   (Assuming due to what you're choosing to post about, and Billings being in Montana, deep in the heart of MWC country... maybe I'm off)
Does the idea of adding North Texas interest you?  Can you speak to the pulse of other MWC fans regarding the same?
Do your media deals with CBSSN & Fox appease everyone, or are there regrets not going with ESPN?   Does it affect bowl placements, since ESPN owns a lot of those?

I am a Wyoming alumni and fan who has just retired from Montana to Hawaii and I have been watching/attending WAC and MWC games since the 60's.  I have seen a lot of changes since the Arizona Schools left the WAC.

From a Wyo perspective, and I believe most front range schools, an add in Texas is fine. CSU and Air Force really want a Texas presence.  TCU was a valuable member in the MWC and is missed.  SMU is the preferred add but they are not joining and everyone knows that. UNT and UTSA are who I hear discussed most often.  Tulsa and Rice get some mentions.  I used to watch Don Haskins bring his great UTEP Basketball teams into Laramie so I have a soft spot for UTEP but I don't hear much support for them.  

We get a few ESPN games but most Wyo fans do not miss them as the main TV partner.   Yes the exposure was a bit better but ESPN was famous for crappy game starting times. Local attendance suffered as ESPN wanted so many early AM, very late games, and weeknight games.  Witness how the MAC sold its soul to ESPN and it has not really helped them.  Home crowds are better with CBS and Fox while exposure is Ok.    Boise fans might disagree with that but they have more ESPN coverage then the rest of the conference.

MWC always seems to get 5-6 teams in bowl games and I don't think there is a real problem there.  So many bowls these days.

I post regularly on the MWC board and UNT is mentioned as an expansion candidate. Frankly, I don't think most MWC fans know much about UNT.  Unlike Aresco, Thompson is quiet and works behind the scenes.  Their management styles cannot be more different as conference commissioners. 

[Pros & Cons of the CUSA/AAC Realignment]

32 minutes ago, WanderingEagle said:

The AAC, MWC and Sun Belt all have mega million deals with ESPN for broadcasting. CUSA doesn't. That's the only pro that matters. Get into a conference where people can watch our games.

MWC TV deals are with FOX and CBS. Not an ESPN conference

[SI: Sources: C-USA Asks AAC to Consider a Reorganizing of Both Conferences]

Just curious.  The MWC has not lost any teams and is renegotiating a new TV deal soon. Negotiations may start in 2022 and be concluded by 2024 when the current deal expires.   Most MWC fans think we will see a modest increase in TV money in the next deal as long as the conference remains intact.  (looking at Boise).   Why do so many post the MWC TV deal will go down?     We have no clue what additions would do with riders and clauses in the contract though.  Boise would like to move to the West and the Front range schools, mostly Air Force and CSU, would like more schools in Mountain and Central time zones.