[Former 4 Star Grad Transfer QB Jace Ruder Commits to North Texas]

1 minute ago, MeanGreenTexan said:

The comps are legit.

That remains to be seen. When Fedora lost Quise Williams and Trubisky, he couldn't develop another QB. That was his undoing on offense. We were trotting a guy out there who wouldn't start for UNT (Nathan Elliott) because of Fedora's archaic beliefs on playing freshmen. 

If he is another Fedora, he'll blunder this QB opportunity. I just have a gut feeling that he is getting the guy he needs. It's not everyday you land a former 4* grad transfer from a team with Heisman caliber QB room, who has experience yet also has 4yrs of eligibility left. Jace Ruder is a unicorn. 

[Former 4 Star Grad Transfer QB Jace Ruder Commits to North Texas]

1 minute ago, GreenN'walinsVet said:

Is it just me, or does the arguments made about Fedora seem almost identical to the arguments made here about Seth?

Having been on the receiving end of both, you can give me Seth any day. Seth made our 2015 team what it was. That offense was potent. Fedora fell apart  on the offensive side of the ball after Seth left and was fired in 3yrs.

For Seth, and nearly any offensive minded coach, I think he needs consistency at QB. If Ruder can take over the starting job, he'll get that for 4 years and I think Seth will take off in Denton.

[Former 4 Star Grad Transfer QB Jace Ruder Commits to North Texas]

4 minutes ago, TheReal_jayD said:

You know who came from North Carolina....

 

Can't blame Zack, it all fell on Lou Hernandez who would rather have ran an Olympic lifting team versus a football S&C program. We were strong, but couldn't bend without breaking.

[Former 4 Star Grad Transfer QB Jace Ruder Commits to North Texas]

19 hours ago, GrayEagle said:

First of all I hope that he can play up to his expectations.  But I am befuddled as to how he got such a high rating from the composite.  He came from a small school in Kansas where (I'll take a flyer) their competition was weaker than 80-90% of the high schools in Kansas.  His passing statistics were not very good and surely his receivers were not that poor.  Yet, he received a four-star rating from the average of three rating services.  His career at North Carolina certainly doesn't uphold that high rating.  In three seasons he competed in only six games, completing 7 of 9 passes for about a hundred yards with one touchdown and 0 interceptions.  He is no longer a dual quarterback.  He gained very few running yards and had season-ending injuries in two of those years.  He does seem to have some good basic quarterback tools so hopefully they can be developed to the point that we'd think Mason Fine was a long time ago.

There is a lot of misunderstanding in this post.

Many recruits do not earn their rankings for what they do during the course of a HS season. They earn their rankings at camp circuits where recruit analysts get to lay eyes on them. Sure, Jace came from a small Kansas school but he camped in many places to include Nebraska, UNC, Florida State, Oklahoma State, Kansas State, among many others.

https://www.tallahassee.com/videos/sports/college/fsu/football/2017/06/15/watch-three-star-qb-jace-ruder-fsus-jimbo-fisher-camp/102877470/

Second, his career at UNC has ZERO to do with Jace's potential. Jace committed to Larry Fedora after his successes with Marquise Williams and Mitch Trubisky but Larry had a very old school and outdated approach to playing Freshman that simply has no use in today's CFB when so many Freshmen are coming in prepared both physically and mentally to play from the start. It became the ire of many UNC fans when we knew both Ruder and Fortin were better than Elliott but Fedora kept trotting Elliott out there. Ultimately, it became Fedora's undoing.

When Fedora did finally give Jace his shot that Freshman year, the team was heavily injured and mentally defeated and yet still Jace provided a spark until he took hits he shouldn't have taken. Ultimately both Jace and Fortin ended up with season ending injuries, culminating a year when UNC likely had more season ending injuries than any program in the country. It was criminal how BAD our Strength and Conditioning program and how much more improved Mack made it. You can read a little about that here:

https://www.si.com/college/unc/football/heels-feeling-good-after-camp

None of the stats on paper are an indictment of Jace's ability. He is absolutely still a dual threat. Heck, I proposed among Heel fans that he make the transition from QB to LB like Chazz Surratt did, who after making the switch has played himself into a 2x All-ACC LB and a surefire NFL draft pick this season. They both have nearly an identical frame, athleticism, etc.  

The bigger picture here is that Jace is coming off his healthiest year yet and stands to be the most athletic and physically imposing QB you'll have in that room, at 6-3" nearly 230lbs, with 4.5 40yd speed. 

Jace just had some bad luck in Chapel Hill with a bad Head Coach his first year, 2 season ending broken bones in year 1 & 2, and then Sam Howell coming in and taking the CFB world by storm. Jace is brining a magnificent skillset to Denton and I fully expect he is going to play tremendously.

[Former 4 Star Grad Transfer QB Jace Ruder Commits to North Texas]

39 minutes ago, BillySee58 said:

I didn’t say he was injury prone. I was just explaining how he qualified for the medical redshirt.

I wasn't referencing you or anyone in particular, just the notion that "he can't stay healthy". He's never had those nagging injuries that come with overuse, non-contact, etc. My apologies if it felt like a call out.

[Former 4 Star Grad Transfer QB Jace Ruder Commits to North Texas]

20 hours ago, denton_days said:

damn this is a real trade up from what we got rid of. Looking at the Tar Heels forums, they seemed to really like him, they just had two other all-star qb's, and Ruder had some injuries. Let's hope he can stay healthy for us.

Jace had the reins in 2018 and would have likely been the starter going forward had it not been for that collarbone injury at Georgia Tech. He was playing really, really well in that game.

Fedora gets fired, in comes Sam Howell and the rest is history. 

I am telling you guys, you aren't getting the typical transfer who just couldn't cut it at the higher level. He's shown he can, he just needs to be in a place where he isn't getting recruited over by 5* QB's.

[Former 4 Star Grad Transfer QB Jace Ruder Commits to North Texas]

4 hours ago, manny777 said:

Thanks for the info.  I know Jace is gonna learn even more from one of the best offensive minds from Seth, who BTW was once the OC at NC. 

Absolutely, hence my second sentence. Seth was the reason for our 2015 success. The guy knows offense.

[Former 4 Star Grad Transfer QB Jace Ruder Commits to North Texas]

8 hours ago, BillySee58 said:

In order to get a medical redshirt you need to prove you missed enough of two separate seasons due to injury. Ruder had injuries in 2018 and 2019. 2018 he broke his collarbone against Ga Tech and 2019 had the broken leg that El Paso Eagle mentioned.

I alluded to this earlier. All of his injuries were in game contact injuries. He's a big, strong guy and had to learn the hard way that he can't try to deliver/take hits that he did in HS. He's not injury prone, he just needs to NOT be the physical player he once was. He has everything you could want in a QB: Tall, strong frame. Very strong arm. Great runner. Very smart as shown in graduating from the UNC Kenan Flagler Business School (one of the most prestigious in the nation) in 3 years. He has it all, along with quality experience learning under Phil Longo and Sam Howell. 

[Former 4 Star Grad Transfer QB Jace Ruder Commits to North Texas]

Tar Heel Fan here!

I love this move for Jace and for UNT. We always appreciate what Seth did for our offense in ‘14-‘15 and picking up Jace will be a huge compliment to the UNT program. Jace flashed a very good skill set before getting injured and contrary to popular belief, he’s not as injury prone as you’d believe as he’s had zero non-contact injuries. He just needs to learn when not to take hits. 
 

You guys are getting a really good one. He has a cannon for an arm, he’s mobile, he’s big. He’s also had the opportunity to learn from an offense that was one of the best in CFB and will have a preseason Heisman favorite in Sam Howell. Jace will be polished and ready to start from day 1, guaranteed. 
 

I wish him and you guys nothing but success!