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  1. 16 hours ago, MeanGreen_MBA said:

    Are you saying all religion based schools are not legitimate because of their philosophy?  

    No I'm saying that Liberty, a university who most of their credits don't transfer to other schools because a lot of their programs are not accredited by many of the larger accrediting bodies that matter, is not legit. 

    Add to that their abysmal graduation rate and their status as a perennial bottom feeder in the rankings of all universities in the US. 

    Their religious convictions and ideology have nothing to do with my objection to them being in C-USA. Them being an East Coast version of University of Phoenix but with a football team is what make me object to them being our conference mate.

     

    The hiring of all the Baylor athletics folks who should have been persona non grata to the entirety of the NCAA is a cherry on top. That shows me that they care about nothing but winning at all costs, an ideology which only leads to trouble and something I don't want us to be associated with. 

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  2. 13 hours ago, MeanGreen_MBA said:

    Will this shut those who hated the Liberty scheduling?  Liberty has been pouring money into the program the last 2 years. They are well funded. I think this makes the scheduling legitimate. 

    Scheduling and funding may be legitimate but their degrees still ain't.

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  3. Seth isn't going anywhere anytime soon. He's playing the long game.

     

    He's all but stated that his dream job is head coach at OU. What incentive would he have for going there now just for a coordinator job? If he went now and took an OC job, and The Sooners spend the next three years crapping the bed under Lincoln Riley, then SL will be let go just like the rest of the staff, and his chances of becoming head coach at OU are out the door. These school only move coordinators up if a coach gets poached or retires, not if they're relieved of their duties. (Yes I know it happens sometimes but that is the exception to the rule).

    Nobody, especially Power conference schools, hires head coaches who were their former coordinators from losing staffs that were let go. That'd be like us hiring Chico as the new head coach after SL leaves. 


    Litrell has WAY WAY WAY more to lose by going to OU now as a coordinator than he does by busting his ass to win now as a smaller conference head coach and making his way up to bigger schools and waiting until it's his turn to be hired as head honcho at OU, having proven himself a successful head coach elsewhere and then returning home to take The Sooners to the promised land as the prodigal Son.

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  4. 3 minutes ago, Wag Tag said:

    If you look at all construction projects across NT, delay is what they all have in common. One of the biggest issues with the high demand for projects is being able to get a firm number you can budget for or finance. I use the 25/25 rule.. it will cost 25% more and take 25% longer than the quote.

    Parking is a money maker for the school. You tear down Fouts and add parking with shuttles and make some $ !!

     

    Yeah... it's not like insane weather that causes construction delays or lowest-bidder public contract subcontractors who screw up work never ever happen. 

    Public entity construction projects always happen on-time and under budget. Remember when y'all went to the August 2015 opening of the new Union and got to Denton in record time thanks to the new 35 Express toll lanes? 

     

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  5. 14 hours ago, Harry said:

    I think you are dead on.  I read that they intend to add 6000 seats to their 21,500 capacity stadium.  Old Dominion will help them fill it up and in their mind give them a winnable game in front of the home crowd.  They hired Turner Gill and Ian McCaw the Baylor AD.  They have a clear plan and tons of money.  I would not be shocked to see them join C-USA at some point in the future as they have the type of budget and resources you can't ignore. 

    I would. 

    Their academic credibility (or lack thereof) is gonna come around to bite them in the ass the more they try to climb the ladder.

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  6. 19 hours ago, Aquila_Viridis said:

    I think this Liberty thing might be the last straw for me. We're clearly dealing with the kind of people who will stop at nothing to get what they want and who will silence any dissent from within. If that's what it takes to be regularly competitive, then that is not a goal for me anymore which means I just don't care about the athletics. The more I read about Liberty and its leaders the worse I feel about this association, even if it means some wow factor visiting teams somehow.

     

    19 hours ago, THOR said:

    So because your school is playing a school you don't like or agree with how they do things, you will stop supporting your school...makes perfect sense...damn some folks are high and almighty...ITS EFFING FOOTBALL!!!! Get over it

    I think you missed Aquila Verdis' point...

    His comment (I think) is about all of the people saying "Wow look at Liberty's facilities! Look at who they've scheduled!! Wow they're kicking our assess in the race to the top of college athletics!" Liberty is spending an assload of money on athletics because they don't spend squat on academics and they're going around hiring people like McCaw as AD. That action alone speaks volumes about the people, attitudes and culture in charge there.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2016/11/29/in-hiring-ian-mccaw-liberty-university-sends-a-chilling-message/?utm_term=.a31a29749599

    Liberty is the poster child for "Win at any cost" and when I look at what they do, and see that the only way to rise to the levels they seem to be attaining at the pace they are going, I too think "Nope, not for me. Not for my UNT. I don't wanna sell my soul and give up all that makes my school important just to get up to the next level." I can't even begin to imagine the horrific crap we're gonna hear about in the next 5-10 years about the inner workings and goings-on within Liberty athletics. I'm gonna call it now and say that the NCAA  will have to do some sort of death penalty or other major unprecedented program suspension or something similar. 


    Now, that being said, we can discuss the ulterior motives of trying to legitimize Liberty as an institution by joining the higher levels of the NCAA. Getting your ass kicked by SEC schools doesn't make up for the fact that most of their degree programs are unaccredited nationally. Most of their credits won't transfer anywhere else: Liberty for the most part is on par with those for-profit "colleges" that got shut down over the past few years because they were issuing worthless degrees. 

    I don't have a problem with Liberty because they are an ultra-conservative evangelical school. That's fine, you do you. Whatever floats your boat. People aren't forced to go there.

    What I have a problem with is them trying to masquerade as a normal D1 university. 

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