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  6. UNT lost to LSU 41-14

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    This is one of the VERY few "body bag" games we looked like we belonged on the same field as our ranked opponent.

    I'm guessing more than a few of the LSU players are licking their wounds and reciting that famous line from Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid..."Who are those guys?"

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  21. Further CUSA Expansion On Hold 12-15 Months ?

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    it is not my dream that 16K fans will need to be there to fill half the stadium

    it is basic mathmatics based on your statement

    oldschoollefty, on 25 June 2012 - 02:00 AM, said:

    just wait until the first game in the upcoming series when half (maybe more :P ) of Ford Stadium is decked out in green

    you clearly said just wait until half of the stadium is there decked out in green.....you did not say half of the fans at the game you said half of the stadium......that would be 16K fans

    and 7k/20K = 35% that is not roughly 40% that is exactly 35%

    and 20K fans at a game for SMU is still 2K more than unT averaged last year in their brand new stadium so I am not sure I would be bagging on SMU for getting 20K to a game against anyone.......and if that many fans showed up it just goes to show that someone cares about SMU because that is 2K+ more than the season average for a much larger school, with a new stadium, and tens of thousands more alumni in the area........that appearently get more excited about showing up to see a game at SMU vs at Apogee...

    also you don't seem to have a clue what point you are trying to make.....you say that SMU must have regional fans to survive and they will need unT more than evAR to survive and then when it is pointed out that SMU will have 4 regional OOC games for the next several years you suddenly start saying how fans never showed up to those games....which pretty much defeats your origonal "point" that SMU needs regional games to draw fans and to survive as a program

    SMU has slightly over 50% of their student body from outside of Texas with California (SDSU) being the next leading state for enrollment then Florida (UCF USF) and Connecticut being #7 on the list of states that send students to SMU......so the Big East teams will be very familiar to a large number of SMU students and playing in those locations will help SMU recruit from places that they already do very well recruting students from

    I wouldn't expect you to understand much if any of this because well you are you, but SMU and their administration understand it and that is what matters to them not the false reality and BS that is bantered about on this forum and so easily refuted and made to look like the BS that it is

    Score one for the troll... You got me on semantics there. The next dry cleaning of your pink polo is on me.

    My intended point was, half or more OF THOSE IN ATTENDENCE would be clad in green, whether it be 10, 12, 15, 20, 30 thousand. I think you saw my intended meaning but just chose to ignore it like you ignore other clear facts about your beloved little ponies.

    Still don't think smu needs regional games to survive? It's absolutely laughable that the only significant live gates that smoo attracted over the last 4 seasons were regional games where the visiting team supplied 30-50% (or more) of the crowd in attendence i.e. Texas Tech, UNT, TCU, etc. You still really think that your "fan base" turns out to support smu athletics? Enjoy that dream if that's what keeps you going.

    Now here's the shocking part of this post... I'm going to play a little devil's advocate here. I believe that UNT attendence will improve from 2013 forward also due to an improved slate of regional games on the CUSA schedule. I may drink the green kool aid but I know from which way the wind blows too. I sincerely hope we don't need the same 30-50% contribution from visiting fans that SMU does for a decent gate and I don't think we will, but yes, I believe improved attendence from visiting fans of CUSA opponents

    will help swell crowds. Lord knows our former Sun Belt bunkmates didn't travel very well. I believe even more strongly that the general direction of the program, vastly improved facilities, and a stronger conference affiliation will bring our fan base to new heights never before seen. If I'm wrong, well, we will be in the same boat as our friends in University Park, a lovely facility to play in and thousands of empty seats to play in front of. I have faith in our fans though, (myself included) that we will support our program to those new heights.

  24. Further CUSA Expansion On Hold 12-15 Months ?

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    again reality steps back in

    Ford Stadium holds 32K.....half of that is 16K

    last year in the brand new Apogee Stadium unT managed to average 17,178 fans....but somehow you are going to get 16K fans to show up to another teams stadium

    and if unT fans managed to show up to Apogee the way that GMGers dream to they would show up then SMU would only have 3K visitors tickets to have access to and if the fans don't show up the way GMGers dream then it is still up to unT to release those tickets for opposing fans to buy.....and it is really not their job to fill the stadium of their opponents

    and perhaps you missed the part where SMU has plenty of regional opponents on their schedule like Baylor, TCU, TAMU, and others that will bring fans and that will bring the SMU fans out as well

    lastly of course my act is tiresome to you because I deal in reality and you deal in a fantasy world

    Your assumption that 16,000 UNT fans will need to show up to half fill Ford Stadium is based on the dream that 32,000 will actually attend any game played in that facility. The last game played between UNT and SMU drew about 20,000, 7,000 of which were North Texas fans. Pretty embarassing for roughly 40% of your attendence to be from that "little community college" up the road and in the middle of one of the darkest periods of the program. You all must have been really proud when T Tech fans made up well more than half of the attendence the day they came to visit, but I digress.

    Now for your daily reality check... SMU has scheduled regional opponents at Ford for several years (Rice, Tulsa, Houston, Texas Tech). Don't you remember your glory days in CUSA? Anyway, check the attendence figures for those home dates and tell me how you think SMU "fans" will come out in droves for these. I can't wait to see the sea of maroon for the A&M game *giggle* but again, I digress...

    I have several other reality checks for you and other smoo trolls but, as an earlier poster mentioned, I should probably stop feeding said trolls. Enjoy your run in the new and improved BE. Hope that works out for you the way you dream it should. :lolu:

  25. Further CUSA Expansion On Hold 12-15 Months ?

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    Posted

    then reality steps in

    2012

    2013

    2014

    2015

    2016

    2017

    I think they have "regional teams" covered quite well even if they ditched the safeway bowl tomorrow......SMU has never needed unT and never will "need" unT get real

    no one besides the members of this forum thinks that the current CUSA is anything close to what the BE will be even in the BE loses two more teams because that just means the CUSA will lose two more of their top teams or that CUSA will be torn apart as former members join back with their long time fellow CUSA members

    "travel cost" "regional appeal" and all the othe rBS that is tossed out on this forum is just that......TCU did just fine as the only team in their conference from Texas for a number of years in fact they thrived specifically because they did not sit around blowing smoke up their butts about someone else "needing" them or blow smoke up their butts about what other programs were doing......they set out to do it themselves

    Boise and UH that have both had some success recently both view the BE as an opportunity.....SMU, Memphis, UCF, and SDSU all view it as an opportunity......I think the administrations of those university athletic programs are much better measures of what the BE provides to them VS the bleatings of the often wrong and wildy over optimistic members of GMG

    Ok, genius, you neglected to address the second part of Screaming Eagles last sentence, you know, the part about "someone to buy tickets". SMU has struggled...mightily...over the last 20+ years to sell tickets despite having a state of the art on campus facility. We all know outside of their painfully small fan base, NOBODY in the Dallas cares a whit about SMU athletics. Hell, drop them in the Big 12 and attendence might spike 10%. Do you get it now...? NOBODY cares about SMU athletics.

    In case you don't think SMU "needs" UNT, just wait until the first game in the upcoming series when half (maybe more :P ) of Ford Stadium is decked out in green. See, there's the appeal of regional games again, filling each others stadiums due to ease of travel for visiting fans. I doubt SMU will bring more than 3,000 to Apogee for the return game but no matter, we will fill the stands with our own fans and relegate the pink polos to the little visitors section.

    Speaking of "bleatings" please feel free to read your own posts sometime and then look in the mirror at that poor, shorn sheep looking back at you. I respect your right to voice your opinions on here, but your act has just become plain tiresome.

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